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Lessons from fungi on markets and economics

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    So I stand before you
    as an evolutionary biologist,
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    a professor of evolutionary biology,
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    which sounds like a rather fancy title,
    if I may say so myself,
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    and I'm going to talk about two topics
    that are normally talked about together,
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    and that's market economy and fungi.
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    Or is it fun-GUY, or,
    as we say in Europe now, fun-GEE?
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    There's still no consensus
    on how to say this word.
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    So I want you to imagine a market economy
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    that's 400 million years old,
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    one that's so ubiquitous that it operates
    in almost every ecosystem of the world,
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    so huge that it can connect
    millions of traders simultaneously,
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    and so persistent
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    that it survived mass extinctions.
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    It's here, right now, under our feet.
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    You just can't see it.
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    And unlike human economies
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    that rely on cognition to make decisions,
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    traders in this market,
    they beg, borrow, steal, cheat,
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    all in the absence of thought.
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    So hidden from our eyes,
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    plant roots are colonized by a fungus
    called arbuscule mycorrhizae.
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    Now, the fungus forms
    these complex networks underground
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    of fine filaments thinner than
    even threads of cotton.
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    So follow one of these fungi,
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    and it connects multiple
    plants simultaneously.
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    You can think of it
    as an underground subway system,
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    where each root is a station
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    where resources are loaded and unloaded.
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    And it's also very dense,
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    so roughly the length
    of many meters, even a kilometer,
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    in a single gram of dirt.
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    So that's the length of 10 football fields
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    in just a thimbleful of soil.
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    And it's everywhere.
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    So if you passed over a tree,
    a shrub, a vine, even a tiny weed,
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    you passed over a mycorrhizal network.
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    Roughly 80 percent of all plant species
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    are associated with these
    mycorrhizal fungi.
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    So what does a root covered in fungi
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    have to do with our global economy?
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    And why as an evolutionary biologist
    have I spent the last 10 years of my life
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    learning economic jargon?
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    Well, the first thing
    you need to understand
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    is that trade deals
    made by plant and fungal partners
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    are surprisingly similar
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    to those made by us,
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    but perhaps even more strategic.
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    You see, plant and fungal partners,
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    they're not exchanging stocks and bonds,
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    they're exchanging essential resources,
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    and for the fungus,
    that's sugars and fats.
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    It gets all of its carbon
    directly from the plant partner,
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    so much carbon, so every year,
    roughly five billion tons of carbon
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    from plants go into
    this network underground.
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    For the root, what they need
    is phosphorus and nitrogen,
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    so by exchanging their carbon
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    they get access to all of the nutrients
    collected by that fungal network.
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    So to make the trade,
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    the fungus penetrates
    into the root cell of the host
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    and forms a tiny structure
    called and arbuscule,
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    which is Latin for "little tree."
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    Now, you can think of this
    as the physical stock exchange
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    of the trade market.
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    So up until now, it seems very harmonious.
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    Right? I scratch your back,
    you scratch mine,
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    both partners get what they need.
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    But here is where we need to pause
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    and understand the power
    of evolution and natural selection.
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    You see, there's no room
    for amateur traders on this market.
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    Making the right trade strategy
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    determines who lives and who dies.
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    Now, I use the word strategy,
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    but of course plant and fungi,
    they don't have brains.
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    They're making these exchanges
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    in the absence of anything
    that we would consider as thought.
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    But, as scientists,
    we use behavioral terms
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    such as strategy
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    to describe behaviors
    to certain conditions,
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    actions and reactions
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    that are actually programmed
    into the DNA of the organism.
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    So I started studying
    these trade strategies
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    when I was 19 years old
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    and I was living in
    the tropical rainforests of Panama.
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    Now, everybody at the time was interested
    in this incredible diversity aboveground.
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    And it was hyper-diversity.
    These are tropical rainforests.
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    But I was interested
    in the complexity belowground.
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    We knew that the networks existed,
    and we knew they were important,
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    and I'm going to say again,
    by important I mean important,
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    so the basis of all plant nutrition
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    for all the diversity
    that you do see aboveground.
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    But at the time, we didn't know
    how these networks worked.
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    We didn't know how they functioned.
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    Why did only certain plants
    interact with certain fungi?
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    So fast forward to when
    I started my own group,
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    and we really began to play
    with this trade market.
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    You see, we would manipulate conditions.
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    We would create a good trading partner
    by growing a plant in the sun,
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    and a poor trading partner
    by growing in the shade.
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    We would then connect these
    with a fungal network.
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    And we found that the fungi
    were consistently good
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    at discriminating among
    good and bad trading partners.
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    They would allocate more resources
    to the host plant giving them more carbon.
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    Now, we would run
    the reciprocal experiments
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    where we would inoculate a host plant
    with good and bad fungi,
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    and they were also good at discriminating
    between these trade partners.
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    So what you have there is the perfect
    conditions for a market to emerge.
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    It's a simple market,
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    but it's a market nonetheless,
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    where the better trading partner
    is consistently favored.
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    But is it a fair market?
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    Now this is where you need
    to understand that, like humans,
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    plants and fungi
    are incredibly opportunistic.
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    There's evidence that the fungus,
    once it penetrates into the plant cell,
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    it can actually hijack the plant's
    own nutrient uptake system.
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    It does this by suppressing
    the plant's own ability
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    to take up nutrients from the soil.
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    So this creates a dependency
    of the plant on the fungus.
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    It's a false addiction, of sorts,
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    whereby the plant has to feed the fungus
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    just to get access to the resources
    right around its own root.
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    There's also evidence that the fungi are
    good at inflating the price of nutrients.
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    They do this by extracting
    the nutrients from the soil,
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    but then rather than
    trading them with the host,
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    they hoard them in their network,
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    so this makes them unavailable
    to the plant and other competing fungi.
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    So basic economics,
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    as resource availability goes down,
    the value goes up.
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    The plant is forced to pay more
    for the same amount of resources.
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    But it's not all in favor of the fungus.
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    Plants can be extremely cunning as well.
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    There's some orchids --
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    and I always think of orchids somehow
    seem like the most devious
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    of the plant species in the world --
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    and there are some orchids
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    that just tap directly into the network
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    and steal all their carbon.
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    So these orchids,
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    they don't even make
    green leaves to photosynthesize.
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    They're just white.
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    So rather than photosynthesizing,
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    tap into the network,
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    steal the carbon,
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    and give nothing in return.
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    Now, I think it's fair to say
    that these types of parasites
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    also flourish in our human markets.
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    So as we began to decode these strategies,
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    we learned some lessons.
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    And the first one is that
    there's no altruism in this system.
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    There's no trade favors.
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    We don't see strong evidence
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    of the fungus helping dying
    or struggling plants
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    unless it's directly benefits
    the fungus itself.
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    Now, I'm not saying
    if this is good or bad.
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    Unlike humans, a fungus, of course,
    cannot judge its own morality.
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    And as a biologist,
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    I'm not advocating for these types
    of ruthless neoliberal market dynamics
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    enacted by the fungi.
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    But the trade system,
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    it provides us with a benchmark
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    to study what an economy looks like
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    when it's been shaped by natural selection
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    for hundreds of millions of years
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    in the absence of morality,
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    when strategies are just based
    on the gathering and processing
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    of information,
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    uncontaminated by cognition:
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    no jealousy, no spite,
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    but no hope, no joy.
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    So we've made progress
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    in decoding the most basic
    trade principles at this point,
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    but as scientists we always
    want to take it one step further,
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    and we're interested in more complex
    economic dilemmas.
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    And specifically we're interested
    in the effects of inequality.
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    So inequality has really become a defining
    feature of today's economic landscape.
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    But the challenges of inequality
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    are not unique to the human world.
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    I think as humans we tend to think
    that everything's unique to us,
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    but organisms in nature
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    must face relentless variation
    in their access to resources.
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    How does a fungus
    that can again be meters long
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    change its trade strategy
    when it's exposed simultaneously
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    to a rich patch and a poor patch?
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    And, more generally,
    how to organisms in nature,
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    how do they use trade to their advantage
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    when they're faced with uncertainty
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    in terms of their access to resources?
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    Here's where I have
    to let you in on a secret:
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    studying trade underground
    is incredibly difficult.
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    You can't see where or when
    important trade deals take place.
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    So our group helped pioneer
    a method, a technology,
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    whereby we could tag nutrients
    with nanoparticles,
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    fluorescing nano-particles
    called quantum dots.
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    What the quantum dots allow us to do
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    is actually light up the nutrients
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    so we can visually track their movements
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    across the fungal network
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    and into the host root.
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    So this allows us finally
    to see the unseen,
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    so we can study how fungi bargain
    at a small scale with their plant hosts.
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    So to study inequality,
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    we exposed a fungal network
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    to these varying concentrations
    of fluorescing phosphorus,
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    mimicking patches
    of abundance and scarcity
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    across this artificial landscape.
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    We then carefully quantified fungal trade.
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    And we found two things.
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    The first thing we found
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    was that inequality encouraged
    the fungus to trade more.
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    So I can use the word "encouraged"
    or "stimulated" or "forced,"
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    but the bottom line is that compared
    to control conditions,
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    inequality was associated
    with higher levels of trade.
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    This is important,
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    because it suggests that evolving
    a trade partnership in nature
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    can help organisms cope with
    the uncertainty of accessing resources.
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    Second, we found that,
    exposed to inequality,
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    the fungus would move resources
    from the rich patch of the network,
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    actively transport them
    to the poor side of the network.
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    Now, of course, we could see this
    because the patches
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    were fluorescing in different colors.
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    So at first, this result
    was incredibly puzzling.
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    Was it to help
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    the poor side of the network?
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    No. We found that the fungus gained more
    by first moving the resources
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    to where demand was higher.
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    Simply by changing where
    across the network the fungus was trading,
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    it could manipulate
    the value of those resources.
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    Now this stimulated us to really
    dig deeper into how information is shared.
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    It suggests a high level
    of sophistication,
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    or at least a medium level
    of sophistication
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    in an organism with no cognition.
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    How is it that a fungus can sense
    market conditions across its network
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    and then make calculations
    of where and when to trade?
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    So we wanted to look about information
    and how it's shared across this network,
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    how the fungus integrates cues.
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    So to do that, what you need to do is
    dive deep in and get a higher resolution
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    into the network itself.
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    We began to study complex flows
    inside the ?? network.
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    So what you're looking at right now
    is the living fungal network
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    with the cellular content
    moving across it.
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    This is happening in real time,
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    so you can see the time stamp up there.
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    So this is happening right now.
    This video isn't sped up.
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    This is what is happening
    under our feet right now.
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    And there's a couple of things
    that I want you to notice.
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    It speeds up, it slows down,
    it switches directions.
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    So we're working now with biophysicists
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    to try to dissect this complexity.
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    How is the fungus using
    these complex flow patterns
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    to share and process information
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    and make these trade decisions?
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    Are fungi better at making
    trade calculations than us?
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    Now, here's where we can potentially
    borrow models from nature.
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    We're increasingly reliant
    on computer algorithsm
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    to make us profitable trades
    in split-second time scales.
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    But computer algorithms and fungi,
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    they both operate in similar,
    uncognitive ways.
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    The fungi just happens to be
    a living machine.
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    What would happen if we compare
    and compete the trading strategies
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    of these two?
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    Who would win?
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    The tiny capitalist that's been around
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    since before and
    the fall of the dinosaurs?
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    My money is on the fungus.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Lessons from fungi on markets and economics
Speaker:
Toby Kiers
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Video Language:
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