1 00:00:06,994 --> 00:00:11,223 For about eight years, I have been a researcher studying bullying. 2 00:00:11,223 --> 00:00:13,884 When I tell people what I do for a living, 3 00:00:13,884 --> 00:00:19,444 they almost always respond by asking me why I chose this particular topic. 4 00:00:19,444 --> 00:00:22,129 Was I ever bullied myself? 5 00:00:22,129 --> 00:00:25,502 Or did I perhaps bully others? 6 00:00:25,502 --> 00:00:29,081 Surprisingly, these questions are not so easy to answer. 7 00:00:29,081 --> 00:00:33,757 I mean, in high school, I was far from being popular. 8 00:00:33,757 --> 00:00:35,878 I did not have so many friends, 9 00:00:35,878 --> 00:00:37,268 and there was this one guy 10 00:00:37,268 --> 00:00:40,974 who would from time to time make comments about my short hair. 11 00:00:41,256 --> 00:00:46,441 And this was surely not nice, but was this really bullying? 12 00:00:46,441 --> 00:00:48,024 I'm not sure. 13 00:00:48,024 --> 00:00:52,667 Then, a few years later, in college, it was the other way around. 14 00:00:52,667 --> 00:00:57,162 There was this one girl who I did not really like so much, 15 00:00:57,162 --> 00:01:01,155 and me and my friends excluded her, 16 00:01:01,155 --> 00:01:05,039 and obviously this was not very nice behavior, 17 00:01:05,039 --> 00:01:08,678 and I feel a bit embarrassed sharing this with you. 18 00:01:08,678 --> 00:01:11,704 But was this then really bullying? 19 00:01:11,704 --> 00:01:15,106 Even for me, someone who studies bullying for a living, 20 00:01:15,106 --> 00:01:18,330 it's not so straightforward to answer these questions. 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,268 What about you? 22 00:01:20,268 --> 00:01:23,299 Have you ever been bullied? 23 00:01:23,299 --> 00:01:27,089 Or did you perhaps bully others? 24 00:01:27,499 --> 00:01:32,210 How do you know that what happened really is bullying, 25 00:01:32,210 --> 00:01:34,889 and not something else such as teasing? 26 00:01:35,534 --> 00:01:37,960 How do you determine that? 27 00:01:38,872 --> 00:01:41,517 Well, in theory it's simple. 28 00:01:41,517 --> 00:01:42,889 There are three elements 29 00:01:42,889 --> 00:01:47,258 that distinguish bullying [from] other types of negative interactions 30 00:01:47,258 --> 00:01:49,157 such as teasing. 31 00:01:49,157 --> 00:01:51,392 First, there is repetition. 32 00:01:51,392 --> 00:01:56,749 Bullying does not happen once, but happens over and over again. 33 00:01:57,149 --> 00:01:59,805 Second, there is a power difference. 34 00:01:59,805 --> 00:02:02,296 The bully is stronger than the victim, 35 00:02:02,296 --> 00:02:05,373 and it can be that the bully is physically stronger, 36 00:02:05,373 --> 00:02:08,485 but it can also be that the bully is socially stronger - 37 00:02:08,485 --> 00:02:11,143 for instance, by having more friends. 38 00:02:11,477 --> 00:02:14,600 Third, there is an intention to harm. 39 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,868 Bullies on purpose hurt the victim. 40 00:02:17,868 --> 00:02:20,620 So it's not an accident. 41 00:02:21,710 --> 00:02:24,982 Now that you know these three elements - 42 00:02:24,982 --> 00:02:29,835 so, repetition, power difference and intention to harm - 43 00:02:29,835 --> 00:02:31,044 can you apply them 44 00:02:31,044 --> 00:02:35,082 to the bullying situation you were just thinking about? 45 00:02:36,312 --> 00:02:38,497 Does it change your conclusion 46 00:02:38,497 --> 00:02:41,997 on whether it's really bullying or not? 47 00:02:43,847 --> 00:02:48,251 As you may notice, in theory it's quite simple, 48 00:02:48,251 --> 00:02:50,500 but in practice it can be difficult 49 00:02:50,500 --> 00:02:54,916 to apply these three elements to real-life situations. 50 00:02:55,245 --> 00:02:58,678 Let's try for the two examples I just gave. 51 00:02:58,678 --> 00:03:02,207 So the guy in high school - 52 00:03:02,497 --> 00:03:03,616 There was repetition 53 00:03:03,616 --> 00:03:08,066 because he made comments about my short hair more than once. 54 00:03:08,066 --> 00:03:10,580 There probably also was a power difference 55 00:03:10,580 --> 00:03:14,157 because this guy was a lot taller and stronger than I was. 56 00:03:14,157 --> 00:03:17,298 The third element is a bit difficult: the intention to harm. 57 00:03:17,298 --> 00:03:20,831 I have no idea what his intentions were. 58 00:03:20,831 --> 00:03:25,937 But we can say that at least two out of three elements of bullying 59 00:03:25,937 --> 00:03:28,296 were present in high school. 60 00:03:28,296 --> 00:03:31,288 But what counts perhaps the most 61 00:03:31,288 --> 00:03:35,757 is that I did not feel bullied at that time. 62 00:03:35,757 --> 00:03:39,124 Let's go to the example of the girl in college. 63 00:03:39,794 --> 00:03:44,128 Also, this happened more often, so there was repetition. 64 00:03:44,438 --> 00:03:49,165 There may have been a power difference as I think I had more friends than her, 65 00:03:49,165 --> 00:03:51,120 but I am not sure. 66 00:03:51,530 --> 00:03:54,880 And yeah, with respect to the intention to harm, 67 00:03:54,880 --> 00:04:00,971 I don't know what my intentions were, but it was not to harm her. 68 00:04:02,331 --> 00:04:08,050 So also here, two out of three elements were present. 69 00:04:08,050 --> 00:04:10,096 And at that time, 70 00:04:10,096 --> 00:04:14,993 it did not feel like bullying to me, but maybe it did to her. 71 00:04:16,470 --> 00:04:20,971 Let's move from these two examples in my life 72 00:04:20,971 --> 00:04:23,316 to a way larger group. 73 00:04:23,316 --> 00:04:29,776 My colleagues and I asked hundreds of primary and secondary school students 74 00:04:29,776 --> 00:04:31,952 and their teachers and their classmates 75 00:04:31,952 --> 00:04:34,406 about bullying the in their classrooms, 76 00:04:34,776 --> 00:04:38,546 and we found that their perceptions differed a lot. 77 00:04:38,546 --> 00:04:42,741 So many students reported to be bullied, 78 00:04:42,741 --> 00:04:48,646 but their classmates and the teachers didn't see them as being bullied. 79 00:04:48,646 --> 00:04:53,931 Some of the teachers even said to us that they were aware of this, 80 00:04:53,931 --> 00:04:59,314 that they had some students in the classroom who felt bullied, 81 00:04:59,314 --> 00:05:01,593 but that these students were not really bullied, 82 00:05:01,593 --> 00:05:04,544 that they were wrong, that they were exaggerating. 83 00:05:05,494 --> 00:05:09,945 Based on my personal and professional experience, 84 00:05:09,945 --> 00:05:12,606 the idea that I would like to share with you 85 00:05:12,606 --> 00:05:17,898 is maybe we should let go a little bit of this scientific definition of bullying, 86 00:05:17,898 --> 00:05:20,915 this idea of "actual" bullying, 87 00:05:20,915 --> 00:05:24,398 and focus on people's feelings instead. 88 00:05:24,398 --> 00:05:27,407 We spend a lot of time and effort 89 00:05:27,407 --> 00:05:31,831 trying to find out whether someone is actually bullied or not, 90 00:05:31,831 --> 00:05:33,093 whereas in practice, 91 00:05:33,093 --> 00:05:37,566 it's often very difficult to reconstruct what exactly happened. 92 00:05:38,245 --> 00:05:40,184 These three elements of bullying, 93 00:05:40,184 --> 00:05:43,475 they provide useful and necessary guidelines, 94 00:05:43,475 --> 00:05:46,177 but as we just have seen, 95 00:05:46,177 --> 00:05:51,313 it's not so straightforward to apply them to real-life situations. 96 00:05:51,633 --> 00:05:55,941 What counts perhaps the most is whether you feel bullied 97 00:05:55,941 --> 00:05:58,806 rather than that you are actually bullied. 98 00:05:58,806 --> 00:06:02,309 After all, it's the perceived bullying that affects you, 99 00:06:02,309 --> 00:06:05,607 and, yeah, not the actual bullying. 100 00:06:07,710 --> 00:06:10,325 So instead of spending so much time 101 00:06:10,325 --> 00:06:13,761 on finding out if someone is bullied or not, 102 00:06:13,761 --> 00:06:15,342 let's take feelings seriously. 103 00:06:15,342 --> 00:06:18,533 When someone feels bullied, they feel bad, 104 00:06:18,533 --> 00:06:22,751 even if the environment thinks that this person is not bullied. 105 00:06:22,751 --> 00:06:26,289 In fact, if everyone around you thinks you're not bullied, 106 00:06:26,289 --> 00:06:28,762 you may feel even worse. 107 00:06:29,262 --> 00:06:33,113 My message to you is: you can make a difference. 108 00:06:33,843 --> 00:06:38,083 Please be aware that there is bullying everywhere, 109 00:06:38,083 --> 00:06:39,410 in almost every group - 110 00:06:39,410 --> 00:06:43,436 also at your workplace, school, sports club. 111 00:06:43,436 --> 00:06:44,789 It's everywhere. 112 00:06:44,789 --> 00:06:47,390 You just may not see it. 113 00:06:47,390 --> 00:06:52,385 What is a joke to you could be bullying to someone else. 114 00:06:52,385 --> 00:06:55,277 When someone tells you that they feel bullied, 115 00:06:55,277 --> 00:06:59,124 you can make a difference by taking this seriously 116 00:06:59,124 --> 00:07:04,632 rather than starting a whole discussion on whether this is actual bullying or not. 117 00:07:04,898 --> 00:07:07,643 Please be aware that for people who are bullied, 118 00:07:07,643 --> 00:07:10,740 it can be very difficult to talk about the bullying 119 00:07:10,740 --> 00:07:12,482 because they feel embarrassed 120 00:07:12,482 --> 00:07:16,410 or they are afraid the situation will only get worse. 121 00:07:16,790 --> 00:07:19,001 So when someone tells you they're bullied, 122 00:07:19,001 --> 00:07:23,512 please be open and trust that this person is truly dealing with something, 123 00:07:23,512 --> 00:07:26,549 and try to look for a solution together. 124 00:07:26,819 --> 00:07:32,988 And if you feel bullied but are not taken seriously by the people around you, 125 00:07:33,458 --> 00:07:36,774 please do not start to doubt your own feelings. 126 00:07:36,774 --> 00:07:40,345 You believe that the people around you are treating you in a bad way, 127 00:07:40,345 --> 00:07:41,790 and that is what counts. 128 00:07:41,790 --> 00:07:44,354 Take your own feelings seriously as well. 129 00:07:44,354 --> 00:07:47,404 And it's your reality - 130 00:07:47,404 --> 00:07:50,762 nobody has a right to deny it. 131 00:07:50,762 --> 00:07:52,227 Thank you. 132 00:07:52,227 --> 00:07:53,563 (Applause)