-
I know automation is something that has
been happening relatively steadily now,
-
and you think about things like
self checkout lines,
-
when you travel, you're doing all
of your check-in online
-
or through machines.
-
And then someone on the chat
spoke about these service jobs
-
being very prevalent now, when
you think about the gig economy.
-
People are doing Uber or Favor,
that kind of thing,
-
and even Uber is now moving
towards driverless cars,
-
or is doing some experiments
in that kind of arena, so...
-
>> Mm-hmm.
-
So let's get my slide up here
just briefly.
-
So mechanization of higher
paying skilled labor,
-
lots of folks lost their jobs that way.
-
The U.S. economy moves from industrial
production to financial services
-
and high tech production of services.
-
We talked about that. Jobs move to
the service sector into the suburbs,
-
blacks who are the last hired
are then the first fired,
-
and for the service jobs that are
left available to people,
-
they don't pay a living wage.
-
What's a living wage, panel?
-
>> Enough to live on.
-
>> Enough to live on.
(laughter)
-
I'm just tossing softballs all day today.
-
Enough to live on for a
family and things like that, right?
-
The other thing that happened,
thankfully some of the gendered
-
aspects of the U.S. economy, all that
changed also in the '60s and '70s.
-
And so there were -- two things happened.
-
One was as the economy slowed
down and high paying jobs became
-
less available even for white folks,
-
and as middle-class salaries
and wages stagnated,
-
you had to have how many people
from a family working
-
in order to be able to maintain
a middle-class standing?
-
>> Two.
>> Two.
-
All right? So women came into
the wage market -- wage market?
-
>> Work force.
>> Work force, thank you very much.
-
I need a little help from
my friends today, clearly.
-
Through the work force.
-
Wage market...
Yeah, work force.
-
And, do women earn as much as men do?
-
>> No.
>> Absolutely not.
-
So one of the things that was good
for the state and for capitalism
-
was that you had these very
competent people who could come
-
into the work market, the wage --
the workplace -- work force.
-
To the work force, right?
-
And be paid less, and so a lot of the
lower -- let's get to my next slide here.
-
The lower service-type jobs like teaching
-- I don't know which one you're on --
-
this is our teacher, teaching and nurses
and et cetera, went to white women.
-
This was particularly true because
at the same time with the end
-
of de jure racism --
-
So, let me as you this in terms
of Austin, Texas.
-
Austin, Texas used to have
a black high school.
-
Anybody remember what the name
of the black high school was?
-
>> LBJ?
-
>> No, LBJ is the black high
school now, but that's not
-
a segregated black high school.
-
But that's a good guess.
-
>> Is it?
-
>> You could --
(cross talk)
-
About 35% of the population
of LBJ is black.
-
The rest is Latino.
It's segregated, right?
-
But the real black high school in
Austin, Texas was Anderson High
-
over here on the east side,
-
which got closed down during integration.
-
And they sent the black kids -- they bused
them all over the place and all that.
-
What was the racial identity of the
teachers at Anderson High?
-
>> (inaudible)
>> Absolutely, they're black.
-
And now, what's the percentage of
black teachers in AISD?
-
Minimal. Right?
-
So a lot of black professional
workers got swept out
-
in this whole integration thing,
-
and particularly when white women
entered the wage force,
-
working in low -- relatively low paid
professional positions, right?
-
So there's all this stuff going on,
which leaves for
-
some of the rest of us,
these kind of jobs.
-
Nothing wrong with working
a job like this.
-
The only thing that's wrong with it,
does it pay a living wage?
-
>> No.
-
>> So you can work your behind off,
and still -- excuse me?
-
>> You're gonna need a second job.
-
>> You're gonna need a second,
or a third, or a fourth job.
-
Fourth is probably too many,
but a second or third job.
-
Right? Absolutely.
-
So this is what happened.
So what do you end up with?
-
Well, economic change
equals social change.
-
The real salaries for poor middle-class
either dropped or remained stagnant.
-
What I said before, middle class becomes
dependent on two workers.
-
The white middle-class women
are cheap labor.
-
They enter the labor force en masse,
and black men lose their jobs
-
or are working jobs insufficient
to support families.
-
Now this is both demonstrably true,
but it's also what William Julius Wilson
-
is focusing on.
-
Because there's other stuff going on,
as Traci and I and Beth and all that
-
will attest to (inaudible)
-
but this is the heart of what William
Julius Wilson is arguing.
-
And he's right, but it's not the total
reality, as we'll see sometime soon.
-
So black men lose their jobs.
-
So African American teen
unemployment by 2003 is at 45%,
-
while white teen
unemployment is at 19%.
-
Black male joblessness was near
50% in some urban areas.
-
Here's my graphs.
-
As you can see here, the blue is the
black unemployment rate,
-
and the red is the white
unemployment rate.
-
And you can see the huge gap,
but you can also see what happens
-
from the 1970s onwards through
the 1980s and all that kind of thing.
-
The only thing that brings
everything down for everybody
-
and widens the gap between black
and white to a certain extent
-
is the boom years of the 1990s.
-
Those were Clinton's boom years.
-
But you can see that the black
unemployment rate is --
-
really just gets completely out of hand
in this whole transformation.
-
All right, don't show my next slide.
Thank you.
-
So, let me ask you a question.
-
Here we are, we're in the teeth
of this disaster here.
-
People losing their jobs left and right.
-
Black folks are more seriously affected
by this than white folks are.
-
Black men in particular, because
it's a patriarchal society.
-
When black families moved up to
the North in the '20s and '30s,
-
largely they're moving up to the North
on the strength of women --
-
black women's working outside
of the household.
-
In the '20s, '30s, and '40s,
what were black women doing?
-
What kind of work were they doing
outside of the household?
-
(cross talk)
-
>> Domestic work, absolutely.
-
But by the time we get to the '50s
and '60s, if you're moving to the North,
-
a large part of what's going on is
you're going to be employed in industry,
-
and those jobs go to who?
-
>> Men.
-
>> Men. Black men.
-
So black men then become the
people who are --
-
not that black women didn't continue
to work outside the house,
-
but black men now become, to a
certain extent, the economic providers
-
for families, et cetera, and that
kind of circumstance.
-
So now black men lose their jobs,
there's no more employment left,
-
the best you can do is a
McDonald's job and all that.
-
Which is an exaggeration,
but nevertheless largely true.
-
And so what does that do in terms of
marriage rates in the black community?
-
>> They go down.
-
>> Why?
-
>> Because a lot of what marriage is,
is based through capital
-
and based off of the prospect
of the person that you're marrying.
-
>> Yeah. And in other words,
marriage is about love,
-
and it's about companionship,
and it's about all that kind of stuff,
-
but it's also an economic contract.
>> (inaudible)
-
Yeah, somebody's got to pay the bills,
there you have it.
-
And particularly in a patriarchal society,
-
men are supposed to do what
in a patriarchal society?
-
(cross talk)
-
>> Yeah, provide, protect
and provide and all that,
-
in the ideal middle-class notion of it.
-
And if you can't find
a man who can provide,
-
supposing all the men your age
and all that kind of stuff
-
are out of work, out of a job,
and on the corner.
-
Are those marriageable prospects?
-
>> No.
-
>> Now love is a beautiful thing, and
love can conquer everything and all that.
-
But if you got a choice between
marrying somebody who got a job
-
and someone who don't,
-
then you're probably gonna go for
someone who has a job.
-
But even beyond that, sometimes marrying
someone who don't have a job
-
and is totally in debt and all that --
-
So for example, if I'm a man
and I'm in debt,
-
and I marry somebody who is a
school teacher and has got a job,
-
and is not in debt, what happens
to that debt when we get married?
-
>> You share it.
>> We share that debt.
-
That sounds like a bad deal.
-
So what William Julius Wilson says
is -- give me my slide here --
-
There are few economically
-- or fewer, I should say.
-
Fewer economically marriageable men.
-
The lack of men with family-supporting
wages greatly reduces
-
the pool of men fit to marriage.
-
Fit to marriage?
Fit for marriage.
-
Now, there are -- this is all I think
demonstrably true.
-
But William Julius Wilson
is a brilliant guy.
-
But he takes things, you know,
in a -- he takes them pretty far here.
-
Because what he says now is that
this is the birth of the under class.
-
So because there are fewer marriageable
men, he says the female-headed
-
households increase, and the percentage
of out of wedlock children increases.
-
So if black women aren't getting married,
but they're still having sex, because
-
you know... that's what we do,
-
then the number of out of wedlock
children increase. All right?
-
And then this next thing that you see
on this slide we're gonna talk about
-
in a little bit more detail.
-
Before you also have a declining birth
rate of married middle-class black women.
-
And that we're gonna talk about
a little bit more, but for right now
-
we're not gonna focus on that.
-
There's a higher proportion
of young black women in the inner city,
-
basically because the fertility rate
of the folks who are living --
-
black people who are living in the
inner city is higher than
-
these middle class folks here.
-
And then the conditions, these conditions
that are right here behind me...
-
Let's change that background slide
just to get a little variety here.
-
That condition,
and let's get another one...
-
that condition, and let's
get another one...
-
that condition there, and
let's keep it with that one,
-
those kinds of conditions mean that
if you got any money and any sense
-
and you're black, according to William
Julius Wilson, what are you gonna do?
-
Move.
-
Get out of town.
-
Go where there's more jobs.
-
Go where there's less crime.
-
Go where there's less decay.
-
These kinds of places are not
particularly nice places to live.
-
You all are way too young, but maybe
you remember pictures of the Bronx
-
burning, and things like this were
complete destruction and decay.
-
You're also way too young,
and I got to Austin too late,
-
but even today if you go over
to East Austin,
-
you'll see a lot of blank
grassy spaces out there.
-
Those used to be homes
and businesses.
-
But after the economy went down
and people abandoned them,
-
the city came in and bulldozed them.
-
So you don't see this kind of stuff
over there in East Austin,
-
but that's what East Austin looked
like in the late '60s and early '70s,
-
right through the '70s.
-
All right?
-
So the middle class leaves.
They get out.
-
And so according to William Julius
Wilson, the folks who can get out
-
are the middle class folks.
-
They leave behind the poor black folks,
and he calls those poor black folks --
-
what does he call them?
-
If you were astute and saw the slide
before when we started out
-
talking about his theory,
he calls them the...
-
Under class.
-
So according to William Julius Wilson,
the loss of marriageable men
-
means single-parent households
in the black community.
-
This leads to cultural pathology and
the solution is to provide jobs
-
to men and women.
-
Now, I said that his first book
was the declining significance of race.
-
Why does he name his book
that has this theory in it
-
"The Declining Significance of Race"?
-
Is he blaming this problem
on anti-black racism?
-
>> No.
-
>> What's he blaming it on?
-
>> The economy.
>> The economy.
-
So he is basically saying that one,
-
racism has been reduced, right?
-
There's now a black middle class.
-
That black middle class
is doing all right.
-
In fact they get out of Dodge because
they're doing so all right.
-
And according to him they're doing fine.
-
And the under class that stays trapped
in these kinds of circumstances here
-
are trapped in these kinds
of circumstances here;
-
the lack of jobs and employment means
that there's no marriageable men,
-
so nobody gets married, and you get
single-parent female-headed families
-
under the basis of that.
-
And then he slips in to the Moynihanian
paradigm which says that
-
there's a direct relationship between
single-parent...
-
female-headed single-parent families
and cultural pathology.
-
And why is there a direct relationship
according to Moynihan,
-
between female-headed single-parent
families and cultural pathology?
-
Can somebody explain to me how
those things hook together?
-
You might as well practice up, because
we're gonna ask you the question.
-
Uh huh.
>> Just because it says
-
that you basically need a man
in your life, like a masculine role
-
in the household.
-
>> You need a man to play a masculine
role in the household.
-
Why is that?
-
>> Because they're meant to be the
providers and teach the children
-
how to act and all that stuff.
>> Okay, to they're meant
-
to be providers and teach
the children how to act.
-
And if there's not a man in the household
to teach the boys in the household
-
to be providers and take on
the patriarchal role,
-
then when that boy grows up,
what's he gonna do?
-
>> Be lazy and --
>> Be lazy and hypersexual,
-
have sex with a bunch of women and
not play the patriarchal role.
-
But also having a man in the house,
what does that do for young girls?
-
>> Show them how like a man
should treat you.
-
>> Show them how a man should
support you and dominate, right?
-
If you read that Moynihan report
closely, and hopefully you all will,
-
doesn't he talk something about a rooster?
-
Go back through your PDF
and look for "rooster".
-
Because he's basically saying that
in a patriarchal society,
-
men are supposed to play
a particular kind of role.
-
And if they don't play that role in
a patriarchal society,
-
then the culture will be pathological.
-
And one of the things he says is that
it's not just that men have to
-
play that patricarchal role,
-
women also have to support the
patriarchal role of the men
-
in order for it to be
a healthy culture.
-
That's what he says.
-
Now Traci and Beth and I, and probably
La'Kayla, and I'm sure Daniela,
-
do not agree with that.
-
But that's what he says.
-
And that also is as of common
sense to many of us.
-
Especially the many black folks who
feel like the problem of slavery
-
and the problem of segregation
was that the man couldn't properly
-
play the patriarchal role,
and that that we need to do
-
when we come out is play that role.
-
I don't agree with that.
-
Moynihan does.
-
And Moynihan is saying that not only
in a female-headed single-parent family
-
do black boys not get the proper
kind of socialization to play that role,
-
black girls don't get the proper kind of
socialization to play the role of being
-
subordinate to male patriarchy, and so
therefore you have a pathological culture
-
which reproduces itself
over and over again.
-
>> Because fathers police
the sexuality of their daughters.
-
>> And their wives, for that matter.
-
All right. Now, let's go back
to my slide that I got up here.
-
Because that last thing is
very important.
-
I announced this earlier, but for your
essays and all that,
-
the difference between Moynihan and
William Julius Wilson
-
is that one, William Julius Wilson is
much more explicit about the
-
economic transformations that create
this crisis of the under class,
-
but he also doesn't believe -- he doesn't
have as stagnant a notion of culture.
-
So he doesn't believe that all is lost.
-
That even if you offer jobs to these
people, nothing can be changed.
-
He thinks that the problem is to
provide jobs to both men and women.
-
And that when you do that, then
you reverse this trend
-
and you can revive both the econonmy,
but also the cultural processes
-
of the black community.
-
All right?
-
Okay, that's William Julius Wilson.
-
Remember this stuff.
-
This is going to be -- we're going to --
you know, it's just -- right.
-
Because we do not agree with --
-
you may, but we do not
agree with Moynihan,
-
and William Julius Wilson gives --
-
William Julius Wilson gives us at least
some basis for making a critique
-
of Moynihan, right?
-
Now what other critiques out there
do you think there are?
-
Remember -- let's see if we can
go back to...
-
What should we go back to here, Chad?
-
I know I'm making life miserable
for you all back there.
-
But let's go back to this slide here.
-
So this is what -- how white folks
in this survey
-
explained the gaps in wealth
-
and other kinds of gaps between white
and black families in this country.
-
And again, the blue line is that it's
about personal responsibility,
-
which is about cultural
deficiency and poverty.
-
The green line is something else.
-
So what other explanations would
you all come up with,
-
give we've been -- how long have we
been in this course here now?
-
>> Three months.
>> Three months. All right.
-
So we've been up and down and all around,
you've learned a whole bunch of stuff.
-
What do you think Traci would say
is the basic problem,
-
or are the basic problems in terms
of why it is that we've got
-
a wealth gap between black and white,
we've got an income gap
-
between black and white, we've got
a life expectancy gap between
-
black and white, we've got a
racial -- social justice system,
-
we've got all kind of gaps between --
-
What would Raci --
What would Raci?
-
What would Traci say?
-
(laughter)
-
I should have stayed home today.
-
What would Traci say?
-
What would Miss Wint-Hayles say?
-
>> I say this all the time.
-
>> Structural race and
class discrimination.
-
>> Thank you.
-
That should have been a
no-no-no-brainer in this class.
-
What do we talk about all the time?
-
Racism, racism, anti-black--
>> White (inaudible) imperialist,
-
capitalist patriarchy.
>> That's right.
-
In fact, Beth led off our whole
operation with that.
-
Yeah okay, so for example,
are there other reasons
-
why there might not be black men who
are marriageable in a black community?
-
Yes?
-
>> They're locked up.
-
>> They're locked up, thank you.
Where can we get to that slide?
-
We're gonna get there.
-
The incarceration of black men.
-
As some of y'all have heard this
ad nauseam, it does get kind of
-
disgusting to go over and over again, but
it's a disaster for the black community.
-
You may think it's just a problem
for black men to be in jail
-
at the rates we are, but it's a problem
for the whole community.
-
We're not around, right?
-
Let's see, between 1999 and 2000,
more African American men in prison
-
and jail than were in higher education.
Bleh.
-
Between 1980 and 2000, three times as
many African American men
-
were added to the prison system than
were added to the nation's
-
colleges and universities.
Bleh.
-
30% of black men between 16 and 34
are ex-offenders. Ehh.
-
Look at this.
-
There's 1.5 million missing black men
from the black communities.
-
Gone. Early death, our life expectancies
are the same as, I don't know,
-
Bangladesh or some place.
-
We're all in jail.
-
You know.
-
What does this thing say?
-
So for every 100 black women not
in jail, there are only 83 black men.
-
The remaining men, 1.5 million of them,
are in a sense missing.
-
So let's see, amongst sizable black
populations, the largest single gap
-
is in, surprise, surprise,
Ferguson Missouri.
-
What's in Ferguson Missouri known for?
-
(cross talk)
Oh my goodness.
-
Ferguson, Missouri. Ferguson.
-
>> Michael Brown.
-
>> Michael Brown, there.
It just took them a while, that's all.
-
Okay, good. Michael Brown.
-
It's a pretty segregated,
problematic place.
-
There are 40 missing black men for every
100 black women in Ferguson Missouri.
-
North Charleston, South Carolina,
25 missing for each 100,
-
et cetera, et cetera.
-
This, the bottom part says that this
kind of gap barely exists amongst whites.
-
Does this kind of gap exist
at a place like UT?
-
>> Probably.
-
>> Absolutely.
-
The ratio of black women to men
is three to two.
-
And of those two, 25% are athletes.
-
And with them, we've got a problem here.
-
>> (inaudible)
-
>> Excuse me?
-
>> Yikes.
(laughter)
-
>> In other words, not only are there
fewer black men,
-
black men are much more likely -- twice
as likely to be with people
-
from another race than black women are.
-
Now if this was another kind --
in fact I used to teach
-
gender in the black community
and various other kind --
-
we would go into this ad nauseum and
take it apart and all that.
-
We don't got time for that today,
but it's a reality.
-
Why'd I talk about
the football players? Well...
-
(laughter)
-
(cross talk)
-
All right. And so...
-
Sorry for you all out there, you know...
-
There's also a black educational gender
gap, and this is hot of the presses.
-
Look at this, 23.2% of black men over
25 earned at least a bachelor's degree,
-
black women over 26.9%.
-
But here in this next one
is the real issue.
-
18.6% of black men 25 to 29 held
a bachelor's degree or higher,
-
and 25.7% of black women 25 to 29.
-
1,185,000 black women have MA's,
708,000 black men.
-
115,000 black women with professional
degrees, 73,000 black men.
-
187,000 PhD's, 139,000 black men.
-
See a pattern there?
-
What does this have to do with marriage?
-
>> Well don't people typically marry
people with their --
-
on the same like,
intellectual level as them?
-
>> Well, not really -- You want to
say something about that?
-
>> Oh, not about that.
-
>> That's true, but if in a --
This is a patriarchy, right?
-
And so if people are going to
marry someone who is slightly
-
lower than them on any level of prestige,
education being one of them,
-
what's the gendered --
in a heteronormive society,
-
what's the gendered expectation
in terms of that?
-
>> (cross talk)
-
>> That a woman has less.
-
Money, education, prestige, et cetera.
-
The only thing that the woman would
have more of if she's marrying
-
someone who's higher in all these kind
of things, probably be lighter skinned.
-
And that's the perverse nature of these
whole operations here, right?
-
So it's not just about marriageable
men and economics,
-
there's a whole series of things here
that are creating problems.
-
>> (inaudible) actual numbers, there was
a Pew study done I think a few years ago
-
that says that black women
who marry less educated men
-
end up with a household deficit
of $25,000 per year
-
in comparison to women
of other races.
-
>> I would also like to add to that that
it's generally understood that
-
black women are several times more
likely to marry men who have been
-
incarcerated before, who have been
convicted of felonies,
-
and make significantly less than
them, than any other race of women.
-
Well, well, well.
-
So you know, now might be an
interesting time to show our Moyers clip.
-
Can we slip that in here now, Chad?
Is that going to be possible?
-
Okay, we're going to show a clip now.
-
This is a clip of a show put on
by -- actually it's now old,
-
because it was done in the mid-80s
by -- what's Moyers' first name?
-
>> Bill Moyers.
>> Bill Moyers, who was the press...
-
Whatever it is. Press person for LBJ
at the same time that Moynihan
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was in the Lyndon Baines
Johnson regime.
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It's not a regime. What is it called?
Presidential... whatever.
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(laughter)
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It's called a regime, right?
Absolutely.
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I want you to look at this and think about
what you read in relationship to Moynihan,
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and then we can talk
about it a little bit.
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This whole thing is already up
for you to look at,
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and you're going to be asked questions
about Moyers and Moynihan
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on this next essay.
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So let's take a three or four-minute
look at this clip.
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>> This is Newark, New Jersey, one of
America's inner cities.
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Inner city is a polite name for ghetto,
as in black ghetto.
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Those of us who don't live in the
ghetto are brought here usually
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by television, and usually only when there
are violent pictures to show.
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But we have to come here if you want
to understand those fearsome statistics
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about the vanishing black family.
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Now a lot of white families
are in trouble too.
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Single-parent families are twice as
common in America today
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as they were 20 years ago.
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But for the majority of white children,
family still means a mother and a father.
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This is not true for most black children.
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For them, things are getting worse.
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Today, black teenagers have the highest
pregnancy rate in the industrial world.
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And in the black inner city, practically
no teenage mother gets married.
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That's no racist comment.
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What's happening goes far beyond race.
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Why then do so many teenage girls
get pregnant and have children?
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Why do so many fathers abandon
their families?
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The answers begin with the people here.
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They told us what happens to family
when mothers are children,
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fathers don't count, and the street
is the strongest school.
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(radio playing in background)
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>> Okay. Okay, bye-bye.
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>> It is the beginning of another school
day in Newark, New Jersey.
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Another day of class
for Clarinda Henderson.
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She is 17, and had hoped to graduate
from high school next year.
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But that was before the birth
of her baby.
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I dreamed that having a little baby
you could just cuddle in your arms,
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just hug all the time, kiss on it,
smell it, 'cause it's so sweet.
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I thought it would be fun,
until I had her.
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>> The reality's different?
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>> The reality just punched me
right in the eye.
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I like had to pinch myself to see if
I was here, because I was like,
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this is too much.
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>> Clarinda was only 15 when she got
pregnant with her daughter Shaquana.
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She is not unusual.
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Half of all black teenagers
become pregnant.
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Clarinda has never been married.
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She's still living with her mother at home
where she's raising her baby daughter.
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Clarinda goes to a special
school for dropouts
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after she takes her daughter
to a daycare center.
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She has 5th grade math skills,
and reads at a 6th grade level.
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>> When I got pregnant, I said well
I'm gonna have this baby,
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and she's not going to stand
in the way of my education.
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I'm not going to let no one stand
in the way of my education.
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I ain't going to be like these other
girls, just drop out, can't get no job,
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no money, have to be on welfare.
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>> Under vocabulary. Bingo.
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>> Clarinda learned about birth control
in sex education courses.
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But she still became pregnant.
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Do you think it was a mistake?
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>> I'll say... no.
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Because I wasn't on any birth
control methods.
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Neither was he.
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And you know, we were sexually active,
and when it happened it just happened.
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>> When you think back to that day
when you learned you were pregnant,
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what went through your mind?
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>> Oh gosh, I'ma tell my mother.
And when I tell my mother,
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she gonna make me get an abortion.
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I was really scared, I think.
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>> Why didn't you want to get an abortion?
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>> Because I wanted this baby.
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>> What did you like about him?
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>> His legs.
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>> His legs?
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>> I got kind of a thing
for bow-legged boys.
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>> Bow-legged boys.
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>> I love 'em.
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He has some gorgeous legs,
I just don't know.
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>> Daron Lyle is the father
of Clarinda's baby.
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He is 18, and lives in central Newark.
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He dropped out of high school
when he was 16.
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He has never held a steady job.
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>> I spend most of my time
listening to the radio.
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I don't go to school, I don't
work, I don't do nothing.
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I'm just like this killing time.
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>> Did you want to have a baby?
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>> No, I -- No, not really,
it just happened.
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She just (inaudible) pregnant,
and (inaudible)
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>> Were your friends impressed?
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>> You know, anybody who's telling me
that you know, she look just like me,
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and you know, she looks,
you know kind of cute, kind of pretty.
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And that's like, you know,
making me feel good.
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>> Sure.
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Do many of them have babies?
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>> It seems like that's all they be
doing around here, is making babies.
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>> Daron told us that in this neighborhood
it's easy to get involved with girls,
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and easy to get into trouble.
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Daron has been arrested five times
for stealing, suspicion of homicide,
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and for possession of a deadly weapon.
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>> When you were arrested for carrying
a dangerous weapon, what was it?
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>> You know those big machetes?
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>> Machete?
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>> Knives, big knives.
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>> You mean you just
carried around with you?
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>> I used to bring it to school with me.
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>> That's -- Hard to
conceal that, isn't it?
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>> Nah, because I had like this blue coat.
It was like a blue (inaudible)
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I poked a hole in the pocket of it,
and I just put it right in there.
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>> Isn't that dangerous?
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>> That's the way stuff was going.
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You know. Like, that's the way the people
was acting towards me.
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So I felt like I needed a weapon,
because you know,