[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As it have earlier been seen with, for example,\N"Tamilsagen" State employees are not always trustworthy, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Attorney Claus Bonnez Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Give me one example of a patient who has taken action and filed a lawsuit Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Highcourt Judge Hanne Kildal,\NEast Jutland's Chief of Police Jørgen Illum. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know whether you're going to interview the\Nopposing side, e.g. the offiicial adminstration Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In next episode of "Denmark increases the volume_2",\Nwe'll contact Aarhus District Court Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is Justice something that is being used\Nselectively in Denmark - a country that used to have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It does not occur\Nin weeklies of the judiciary, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Music by Niklas Aldén Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Produced by Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RED-tape-inc.com Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Serious accusations from humanrights lawyer\NClaus Bonnez against the Danish state Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it is normal that\NDanish Law doesn't follow Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Soundeffects Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Special Thanks to: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is very problematic! Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Snuff Street Journal editorial office will in subsequent\Neditions make an interview with "Domstolstyrelsen" Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Ultimate Freedom:\Nthe Freedom of Crime Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only source of ammunition that the patients have access to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is absurd,\Nand a breach of the fundamental Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Torben Thygesen and Michael Møller\NHansen Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two of the District attorneys employees whom\Nwe know have processed such a case: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With law, thy must build the country Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the psychiatric law, and has been permitted\Nto obtain expert impartial assistance Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and possess the integrity and\Nindependence that would be expected in their position. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the European Court of Human Rights,\NArticle 5 Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but instead the courts emphasize the doctor\Nwhom hospitalized the patient Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for an interview with one of its\Nrepresentatives District Court Judge Mette Helby Jensen, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,human rights traditions we have in\NDanish Law Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the opposing side's information\Nconcerning themselves Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in other legal periodicals\Nthat I have knowledge of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,patient an opportunity for a\Ncritical expert assessment Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the European Court of Human Rights\Npractice that allows the former Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to discuss the punitive consequences of officials\Nadministrationally, violating the Danish constitution Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,traditions and reputation for respecting\Nhuman rights. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whom are branding Denmark as the\Nworlds happiest country Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.28,0:00:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,snuffstreetjournal.com presents Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.48,0:00:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Denmark increases the volume_1 Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.08,0:00:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a documentary film about the new criminals Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.18,0:00:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Danish Presidency of the EU Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.58,0:00:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EU-Values? Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.28,0:00:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you please\Npresent yourself? Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.80,0:00:36.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am Claus Bonnez\Nand I'm a defence attorney, Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.36,0:00:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and lawyer in other areas as well: Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.81,0:00:42.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. compulsory hospitalization, Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.54,0:00:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Retsplejlovens" Chapter 43a Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.20,0:00:47.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The diagnosis is not my speciality Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.33,0:00:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This, I'll leave for the medical\Nspecialists to explain Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.42,0:00:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you know the renowned 'Rosenhan Study',\Nand if you do, do you have an opinion about it? Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.55,0:00:56.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have heard about it Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.03,0:01:01.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a study where some students were\Ncalled in to participate in an experiment Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.53,0:01:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were here detected having a psyciatric\Ndiagnosis, despite the fact that they Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.00,0:01:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didnt' suffer from any mental illness -\Nthat's what I know about the experiment Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.54,0:01:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could psychiatrists in America\Ndistinguish between madness and sanity? Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.52,0:01:26.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was called David Rosenhan and he\Ndevised a dramatic experiment Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.56,0:01:29.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He assembled 8 people, including himself, Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.01,0:01:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,none of whom had ever had\Nany psychiatric problems Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.36,0:01:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each person was then sent across the\Ncountry to a specific mental hospital Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.77,0:01:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At an agreed time they all presented\Nthemselves at that hospital, Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.71,0:01:45.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and told the psychiatrist at duty they\Nwere hearing a voice in their head Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.91,0:01:48.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that said the word “thud!" Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.30,0:01:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was the only lie they should tell, Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.30,0:01:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,othervise they were to behave\Nand respond completely normally Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.56,0:02:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then what happened? Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.47,0:02:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were all diagnosed as insane,\Nand admitted to the hospital Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.55,0:02:13.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of them? Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.47,0:02:15.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of them! Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.34,0:02:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And were any of them insane? Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.14,0:02:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. There were nobody that could\Nhave judged these people as insane Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.23,0:02:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I told friends, I told my family:\N"I'll get out when its fine to get out...thats all!" Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.30,0:02:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'll be there for a couple of days,\Nand then I'll get out!" Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.77,0:02:33.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody knew that I would\Nbe there for 2 months! Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.65,0:02:38.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once admitted, all 8 fake patients\Nacted completely normally Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.75,0:02:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet the hospitals refused\Nto release them, Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.65,0:02:46.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and diagnosed 7 as suffering from\Nschizophrenia and one from bi-polar disorder Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.02,0:02:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were all given powerful\Npsychotropic drugs Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.71,0:02:54.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They found that there was nothing they could\Ndo, to convince the doctors they were sane Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.00,0:02:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it quickly became clear\Nthat the only way out Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.67,0:03:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be to agree that they were insane\Nand then pretend to be getting better Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.36,0:03:06.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only way out was to point out\Nthat they were correct. Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.30,0:03:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They said I was insane,\N”I am insane, but I'm getting better" Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.90,0:03:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was an affirmation\Nof their view of me Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.100,0:03:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In court, when I am called in to question\Na compulsory hospitalization; Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.59,0:03:27.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is from judicial human rights\Naspect Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.86,0:03:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the rules are respected, which under Danish law is\Ncritical, Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.62,0:03:36.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because in praxis, the law generally doesn't permit a 'second\Nopinion' Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.63,0:03:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is an alternative opinion beside the conclusions of the\Nofficial assessment, Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.79,0:03:45.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which you must bring to bear on a person\Nto meet the legal criteria Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.100,0:03:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of being compulsorily hospitalized in\NDenmark Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.42,0:03:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok, does that often happen? Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.49,0:03:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But... it's the rule! Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.22,0:03:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it the rule that there is no possibilty for the patient to get\Nget a 'second opinion'? Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.42,0:03:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, absolutely, Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.80,0:04:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to Danish psychiatric law,\Nif you are compulsorily hospitalized, you have the right Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.56,0:04:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have your case tested in the Danish courts, to see if the\Nhospitalization was entitled, Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.11,0:04:18.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this justice is elementary under\NDanish law, Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.35,0:04:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to the European\NHuman Rights Convention Article 5 Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.02,0:04:24.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have the right for this impartial\Njustice, Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.42,0:04:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course also because we are members of the\NCouncil of Europe Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.06,0:04:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to respect the Danish\Nconstitution Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.79,0:04:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when we have these cases, Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.50,0:04:38.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my opinion, they become nothing\Nmore than a sham Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.23,0:04:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you in reality have no other expert opinions, than the\Nones from the hospital even though Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.16,0:04:46.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are the ones, that have kept the\Nindividual in custody Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.19,0:04:52.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And hereby we need a critical second\Nopinion Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.03,0:04:57.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can eventually dispute the offcial authority's\Nopinion Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.96,0:05:02.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it is understandable that as judges, courts and\Nattorneys Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.22,0:05:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have no specialist psychiatric\Nknowledge, Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.00,0:05:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I as an attorney don't know when a doctor says that an\Nindividual is insane Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.03,0:05:16.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very often you can't see whether the clients\Nare normal or insane, Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.62,0:05:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so this I can have no clue about, and neither does\Nthe judge, Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.72,0:05:22.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the attorney working on behalf of the\Nhospital doesn't either Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.07,0:05:26.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we have this sort of case in the\Ncourts Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.13,0:05:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we base the case on the documentation from the concerned\Nhospital, Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.68,0:05:33.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's not very surprising that they\Nsay their own decision was entitled Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.20,0:05:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And therefore these cases are very subjective and\Nhollow, Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.50,0:05:41.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in my conviction, conflicting with the European Human Rights\NConvention Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.83,0:05:45.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This statement I base on concrete\Ndecisions Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.08,0:05:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the European Court of Human Rights: Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.08,0:05:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there should be an impartial body which\Nmake the subsequent assessment Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.46,0:05:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if the concerned individual\Nis or was insane, Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.52,0:06:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,therefore not the institution that has\Ndecided the enforced detention was originally justified Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.70,0:06:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me it is quite obvious, Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.24,0:06:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the European Court of Human Rights\Npractice is not very surprising Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.95,0:06:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when you try and invoke it in Danish Law Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.36,0:06:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like talking to deaf ears Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.41,0:06:17.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both County and High Courts.\NThey basically do not care! Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.42,0:06:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now I've taken an action against with a concrete\Ncase in front of the Human Rights Court Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.97,0:06:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Aha, on this basis? Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.38,0:06:25.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On exactly this question\Nwhere no Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.45,0:06:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impartial body was allowed to\Nmake a subsequent assessment Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.96,0:06:33.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both County and High Courts focused in this specific\Ncase, Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.51,0:06:36.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as in the many of the\Nother cases I have taken, Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.56,0:06:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exclusively on the testimony\Nfrom the authorities, Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.84,0:06:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the admitting doctor's\Nexpert assessments, Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.23,0:06:47.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the expert's assessment which\Nmaintained the forced hospitalization Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.13,0:06:49.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in my opinion, Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.28,0:06:53.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it doesn't comply with the\Nlegal requirements as provided within Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.85,0:06:56.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the European Human Rights\NConventions Article 5 Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.00,0:08:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hospital reported to "Arbejdstilsynet"\N(Official Work Inspectorate) - EPN.dk Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.24,0:08:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doctors uses illegal force every 2nd day\N- dr.dk Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.66,0:08:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The boss to the staff: "Stop being caring\Ntowards the patients" - dagensmedicin.dk Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.65,0:08:12.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Arbejdstilsynet" returns streessplan\Nfrom psychiatric hospital - stiften.dk Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.73,0:08:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,14 year old girl illegally fixated 286\Ntimes Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.17,0:08:18.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pharmaceutical companies gilders official\Ncontrol panel - borsen.dk Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.76,0:08:22.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Psychiatric patients loosing 9 out of 10\Ncourt cases against the authorities Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.74,0:08:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One publised case, was when the staff at\NRisskov pschyhiatric hospital, Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.95,0:08:30.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the suburbs of Aarhus, due to very \Nheavy workloads, Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.12,0:08:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,filed a complaint to "Arbejdstilsynet" to get assistance Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.19,0:08:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in facilitating a dialogue with the\NDirection of the Hospital; who had maintained Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.20,0:08:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a rigid agenda from their singluar\Nviewpoint Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.29,0:08:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MADLY BUSY - I must do, I must do, I must\Ndo!!! Calme, calme - take it easy; take a pill Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.35,0:08:46.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The staff reported: Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.26,0:08:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Jobs are not being done, the staff have to seriously weaken the quality and it affects the\Ntreatment and the work they do" Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.06,0:08:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...time for professional reflection and\Nimmersion is not present in the daily work" Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.02,0:08:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Time for professional reflection and\Nimmersion is not present in the daily work" Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.92,0:08:59.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, it is clear Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.53,0:09:03.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could say it's a bit of another\Nproblematic question that you raise, Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.50,0:09:07.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the question is: when you\Nare admitted to a hospital, Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.63,0:09:10.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if the working conditions\Nis so poor Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.19,0:09:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as described in the study\Nfrom "Arbejdstilsynet", Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.62,0:09:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it creates the risk that the staff of the hospitals\Ncan simply mis-diagnose the patient, Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.50,0:09:21.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it can have an impact, both on people\Nwho benefit from being under treatment at Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.12,0:09:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hospital - they may be too\Nearly written out and sent home - Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.70,0:09:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while others who shouldn't be at the\Nhospital for example: because they are not sick Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.50,0:09:30.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remain at the hospital unwarranted Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.80,0:09:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which obviously is a serious problem Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.14,0:09:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when people are in involuntarily\Ncustody Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.78,0:09:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, if so, one imagines\Nthat the hospital Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.86,0:09:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had proper working conditions, Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.38,0:09:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very professional\Nand competent staff Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.50,0:09:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is still in violation with the\Nrule of law Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.63,0:09:54.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the European Court of Human Rights\Ninterprete in Article 5, Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.22,0:09:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it can not be the same institution which\Nsubsequently Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.92,0:10:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so to speak, deliver the opinions and the assessments\Nwhich the court makes its decision upon Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.11,0:10:07.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when a citizen claims in front of court,\Nthat a compulsory admission was unjustified Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.08,0:10:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This of course is amplified by a poor\Nworking environment Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.67,0:10:17.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because of this, the validity of the medical\Nstaffs opinion is called into question Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.20,0:10:20.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, even if this not the case, Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.50,0:10:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it remains problematic due to the Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.78,0:10:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contradictory thought-process,\Npresent in a democratic states courtroom, Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.30,0:10:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the fact that the defendant Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.33,0:10:40.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has the opportunity to\Nsubmit arguments in favor Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.52,0:10:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as the opposing side, has this\Nopportunity, Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.10,0:10:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is the position of the patients when\Ndischarged