9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 As it have earlier been seen with, for example,[br]"Tamilsagen" State employees are not always trustworthy, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Attorney Claus Bonnez 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Give me one example of a patient who has taken action and filed a lawsuit 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Highcourt Judge Hanne Kildal,[br]East Jutland's Chief of Police Jørgen Illum. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I don't know whether you're going to interview the[br]opposing side, e.g. the offiicial adminstration 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 In next episode of "Denmark increases the volume_2",[br]we'll contact Aarhus District Court 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Is Justice something that is being used[br]selectively in Denmark - a country that used to have 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It does not occur[br]in weeklies of the judiciary, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Music by Niklas Aldén 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Produced by 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 RED-tape-inc.com 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Serious accusations from humanrights lawyer[br]Claus Bonnez against the Danish state 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So it is normal that[br]Danish Law doesn't follow 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Soundeffects 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Special Thanks to: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That is very problematic! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The Snuff Street Journal editorial office will in subsequent[br]editions make an interview with "Domstolstyrelsen" 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The Ultimate Freedom:[br]the Freedom of Crime 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The only source of ammunition that the patients have access to 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 This is absurd,[br]and a breach of the fundamental 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Torben Thygesen and Michael Møller[br]Hansen 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Two of the District attorneys employees whom[br]we know have processed such a case: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 With law, thy must build the country 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 after the psychiatric law, and has been permitted[br]to obtain expert impartial assistance 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and possess the integrity and[br]independence that would be expected in their position. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and the European Court of Human Rights,[br]Article 5 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but instead the courts emphasize the doctor[br]whom hospitalized the patient 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 for an interview with one of its[br]representatives District Court Judge Mette Helby Jensen, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 human rights traditions we have in[br]Danish Law 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is the opposing side's information[br]concerning themselves 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or in other legal periodicals[br]that I have knowledge of 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 patient an opportunity for a[br]critical expert assessment 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the European Court of Human Rights[br]practice that allows the former 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to discuss the punitive consequences of officials[br]administrationally, violating the Danish constitution 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 traditions and reputation for respecting[br]human rights. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 whom are branding Denmark as the[br]worlds happiest country 0:00:07.285,0:00:08.484 snuffstreetjournal.com presents 0:00:11.485,0:00:16.485 Denmark increases the volume_1 0:00:19.085,0:00:24.085 a documentary film about the new criminals 0:00:26.185,0:00:28.185 Danish Presidency of the EU 0:00:28.585,0:00:30.585 EU-Values? 0:00:31.285,0:00:33.785 Would you please[br]present yourself? 0:00:33.800,0:00:36.350 I am Claus Bonnez[br]and I'm a defence attorney, 0:00:36.357,0:00:38.606 and lawyer in other areas as well: 0:00:38.807,0:00:42.007 i.e. compulsory hospitalization, 0:00:42.544,0:00:45.044 "Retsplejlovens" Chapter 43a 0:00:45.200,0:00:47.330 The diagnosis is not my speciality 0:00:47.331,0:00:49.200 This, I'll leave for the medical[br]specialists to explain 0:00:49.423,0:00:55.523 Do you know the renowned 'Rosenhan Study',[br]and if you do, do you have an opinion about it? 0:00:55.550,0:00:56.670 I have heard about it 0:00:57.029,0:01:01.529 It was a study where some students were[br]called in to participate in an experiment 0:01:01.529,0:01:07.940 They were here detected having a psyciatric[br]diagnosis, despite the fact that they 0:01:08.000,0:01:10.800 didnt' suffer from any mental illness -[br]that's what I know about the experiment 0:01:16.541,0:01:20.741 Could psychiatrists in America[br]distinguish between madness and sanity? 0:01:22.523,0:01:26.023 He was called David Rosenhan and he[br]devised a dramatic experiment 0:01:26.560,0:01:29.010 He assembled 8 people, including himself, 0:01:29.011,0:01:31.460 none of whom had ever had[br]any psychiatric problems 0:01:33.365,0:01:37.565 Each person was then sent across the[br]country to a specific mental hospital 0:01:38.770,0:01:41.856 At an agreed time they all presented[br]themselves at that hospital, 0:01:42.709,0:01:45.709 and told the psychiatrist at duty they[br]were hearing a voice in their head 0:01:45.910,0:01:48.910 that said the word “thud!" 0:01:50.300,0:01:53.300 That was the only lie they should tell, 0:01:53.303,0:01:56.320 othervise they were to behave[br]and respond completely normally 0:02:03.565,0:02:05.385 And then what happened? 0:02:05.470,0:02:09.970 They were all diagnosed as insane,[br]and admitted to the hospital 0:02:12.553,0:02:13.673 All of them? 0:02:14.474,0:02:15.874 All of them! 0:02:16.335,0:02:19.135 And were any of them insane? 0:02:19.140,0:02:22.640 No. There were nobody that could[br]have judged these people as insane 0:02:23.226,0:02:27.242 But I told friends, I told my family:[br]"I'll get out when its fine to get out...thats all!" 0:02:27.300,0:02:30.583 "I'll be there for a couple of days,[br]and then I'll get out!" 0:02:30.769,0:02:33.769 Nobody knew that I would[br]be there for 2 months! 0:02:34.646,0:02:38.146 Once admitted, all 8 fake patients[br]acted completely normally 0:02:38.750,0:02:41.550 Yet the hospitals refused[br]to release them, 0:02:41.650,0:02:46.770 and diagnosed 7 as suffering from[br]schizophrenia and one from bi-polar disorder 0:02:47.016,0:02:49.816 They were all given powerful[br]psychotropic drugs 0:02:50.714,0:02:54.914 They found that there was nothing they could[br]do, to convince the doctors they were sane 0:02:55.000,0:02:57.432 And it quickly became clear[br]that the only way out 0:02:57.672,0:03:02.139 would be to agree that they were insane[br]and then pretend to be getting better 0:03:03.355,0:03:06.855 The only way out was to point out[br]that they were correct. 0:03:08.301,0:03:12.903 They said I was insane,[br]”I am insane, but I'm getting better" 0:03:12.904,0:03:18.201 That was an affirmation[br]of their view of me 0:03:18.998,0:03:24.118 In court, when I am called in to question[br]a compulsory hospitalization; 0:03:24.588,0:03:27.388 which is from judicial human rights[br]aspect 0:03:27.865,0:03:32.365 If the rules are respected, which under Danish law is[br]critical, 0:03:32.620,0:03:36.626 because in praxis, the law generally doesn't permit a 'second[br]opinion' 0:03:36.627,0:03:42.785 which is an alternative opinion beside the conclusions of the[br]official assessment, 0:03:42.786,0:03:45.997 which you must bring to bear on a person[br]to meet the legal criteria 0:03:45.998,0:03:48.340 of being compulsorily hospitalized in[br]Denmark 0:03:48.419,0:03:50.439 Ok, does that often happen? 0:03:50.492,0:03:52.212 But... it's the rule! 0:03:53.216,0:03:57.416 Is it the rule that there is no possibilty for the patient to get[br]get a 'second opinion'? 0:03:57.417,0:03:59.437 Yes, absolutely, 0:03:59.795,0:04:06.095 according to Danish psychiatric law,[br]if you are compulsorily hospitalized, you have the right 0:04:06.563,0:04:13.063 to have your case tested in the Danish courts, to see if the[br]hospitalization was entitled, 0:04:13.108,0:04:18.108 and this justice is elementary under[br]Danish law, 0:04:18.352,0:04:21.472 according to the European[br]Human Rights Convention Article 5 0:04:22.017,0:04:24.417 You have the right for this impartial[br]justice, 0:04:24.419,0:04:27.539 and of course also because we are members of the[br]Council of Europe 0:04:28.055,0:04:31.355 to respect the Danish[br]constitution 0:04:31.791,0:04:34.411 So, when we have these cases, 0:04:34.500,0:04:38.220 in my opinion, they become nothing[br]more than a sham 0:04:38.230,0:04:42.730 because you in reality have no other expert opinions, than the[br]ones from the hospital even though 0:04:43.164,0:04:46.664 they are the ones, that have kept the[br]individual in custody 0:04:47.186,0:04:52.186 And hereby we need a critical second[br]opinion 0:04:53.031,0:04:57.031 that can eventually dispute the offcial authority's[br]opinion 0:04:57.965,0:05:02.665 And it is understandable that as judges, courts and[br]attorneys 0:05:03.225,0:05:06.925 we have no specialist psychiatric[br]knowledge, 0:05:08.002,0:05:12.002 and I as an attorney don't know when a doctor says that an[br]individual is insane 0:05:12.031,0:05:16.531 Very often you can't see whether the clients[br]are normal or insane, 0:05:16.615,0:05:19.715 so this I can have no clue about, and neither does[br]the judge, 0:05:19.723,0:05:22.843 and the attorney working on behalf of the[br]hospital doesn't either 0:05:23.067,0:05:26.067 When we have this sort of case in the[br]courts 0:05:26.126,0:05:29.626 we base the case on the documentation from the concerned[br]hospital, 0:05:29.677,0:05:33.677 and it's not very surprising that they[br]say their own decision was entitled 0:05:34.203,0:05:37.203 And therefore these cases are very subjective and[br]hollow, 0:05:37.500,0:05:41.700 and in my conviction, conflicting with the European Human Rights[br]Convention 0:05:41.833,0:05:45.533 This statement I base on concrete[br]decisions 0:05:46.078,0:05:49.078 from the European Court of Human Rights: 0:05:49.079,0:05:53.879 that there should be an impartial body which[br]make the subsequent assessment 0:05:54.463,0:05:57.263 if the concerned individual[br]is or was insane, 0:05:57.524,0:06:01.524 therefore not the institution that has[br]decided the enforced detention was originally justified 0:06:02.696,0:06:04.796 For me it is quite obvious, 0:06:05.244,0:06:08.744 and the European Court of Human Rights[br]practice is not very surprising 0:06:08.951,0:06:12.351 but when you try and invoke it in Danish Law 0:06:12.360,0:06:14.360 it's like talking to deaf ears 0:06:14.413,0:06:17.413 Both County and High Courts.[br]They basically do not care! 0:06:17.416,0:06:20.916 And now I've taken an action against with a concrete[br]case in front of the Human Rights Court 0:06:20.971,0:06:22.291 Aha, on this basis? 0:06:22.375,0:06:25.451 On exactly this question[br]where no 0:06:25.452,0:06:28.975 impartial body was allowed to[br]make a subsequent assessment 0:06:29.960,0:06:33.260 Both County and High Courts focused in this specific[br]case, 0:06:33.512,0:06:36.312 as in the many of the[br]other cases I have taken, 0:06:36.565,0:06:39.365 exclusively on the testimony[br]from the authorities, 0:06:39.839,0:06:42.639 the admitting doctor's[br]expert assessments, 0:06:43.226,0:06:47.426 and the expert's assessment which[br]maintained the forced hospitalization 0:06:48.129,0:06:49.949 And in my opinion, 0:06:50.284,0:06:53.784 it doesn't comply with the[br]legal requirements as provided within 0:06:53.847,0:06:56.547 the European Human Rights[br]Conventions Article 5 0:08:00.000,0:08:04.200 Hospital reported to "Arbejdstilsynet"[br](Official Work Inspectorate) - EPN.dk 0:08:04.238,0:08:05.758 Doctors uses illegal force every 2nd day[br]- dr.dk 0:08:06.660,0:08:09.460 The boss to the staff: "Stop being caring[br]towards the patients" - dagensmedicin.dk 0:08:09.650,0:08:12.650 "Arbejdstilsynet" returns streessplan[br]from psychiatric hospital - stiften.dk 0:08:12.729,0:08:15.165 14 year old girl illegally fixated 286[br]times 0:08:15.166,0:08:18.649 Pharmaceutical companies gilders official[br]control panel - borsen.dk 0:08:18.757,0:08:22.257 Psychiatric patients loosing 9 out of 10[br]court cases against the authorities 0:08:22.739,0:08:26.939 One publised case, was when the staff at[br]Risskov pschyhiatric hospital, 0:08:26.950,0:08:30.950 in the suburbs of Aarhus, due to very [br]heavy workloads, 0:08:31.123,0:08:35.123 filed a complaint to "Arbejdstilsynet" to get assistance 0:08:35.188,0:08:38.160 in facilitating a dialogue with the[br]Direction of the Hospital; who had maintained 0:08:38.200,0:08:40.227 a rigid agenda from their singluar[br]viewpoint 0:08:40.289,0:08:42.389 MADLY BUSY - I must do, I must do, I must[br]do!!! Calme, calme - take it easy; take a pill 0:08:43.348,0:08:46.248 The staff reported: 0:08:46.262,0:08:49.062 "Jobs are not being done, the staff have to seriously weaken the quality and it affects the[br]treatment and the work they do" 0:08:49.065,0:08:51.865 "...time for professional reflection and[br]immersion is not present in the daily work" 0:08:52.015,0:08:55.515 "Time for professional reflection and[br]immersion is not present in the daily work" 0:08:55.919,0:08:59.419 Yes, it is clear 0:08:59.532,0:09:03.032 You could say it's a bit of another[br]problematic question that you raise, 0:09:04.495,0:09:07.495 because the question is: when you[br]are admitted to a hospital, 0:09:07.630,0:09:10.630 if the working conditions[br]is so poor 0:09:11.187,0:09:16.587 as described in the study[br]from "Arbejdstilsynet", 0:09:16.620,0:09:18.440 it creates the risk that the staff of the hospitals[br]can simply mis-diagnose the patient, 0:09:18.499,0:09:21.999 and it can have an impact, both on people[br]who benefit from being under treatment at 0:09:22.123,0:09:25.623 the hospital - they may be too[br]early written out and sent home - 0:09:25.700,0:09:27.500 while others who shouldn't be at the[br]hospital for example: because they are not sick 0:09:27.500,0:09:30.800 remain at the hospital unwarranted 0:09:30.800,0:09:34.320 Which obviously is a serious problem 0:09:35.145,0:09:37.245 when people are in involuntarily[br]custody 0:09:37.785,0:09:40.785 But, if so, one imagines[br]that the hospital 0:09:40.864,0:09:44.364 had proper working conditions, 0:09:44.376,0:09:49.396 very professional[br]and competent staff 0:09:49.498,0:09:51.598 it is still in violation with the[br]rule of law 0:09:51.626,0:09:54.126 as the European Court of Human Rights[br]interprete in Article 5, 0:09:54.215,0:09:57.915 that it can not be the same institution which[br]subsequently 0:09:57.920,0:10:01.620 so to speak, deliver the opinions and the assessments[br]which the court makes its decision upon 0:10:04.112,0:10:07.612 when a citizen claims in front of court,[br]that a compulsory admission was unjustified 0:10:09.085,0:10:13.285 This of course is amplified by a poor[br]working environment 0:10:13.672,0:10:17.172 Because of this, the validity of the medical[br]staffs opinion is called into question 0:10:17.203,0:10:20.453 However, even if this not the case, 0:10:20.500,0:10:23.750 it remains problematic due to the 0:10:24.785,0:10:28.285 contradictory thought-process,[br]present in a democratic states courtroom, 0:10:28.299,0:10:33.299 which is the fact that the defendant 0:10:33.326,0:10:40.326 has the opportunity to[br]submit arguments in favor 0:10:40.517,0:10:44.017 as well as the opposing side, has this[br]opportunity, 0:10:44.096,0:10:46.596 and that is the position of the patients when[br]discharged