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How our brains learn to like music | Psyche Loui |TEDxCambridge

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    I'm from a fairly traditional family.
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    So like a good Asian girl,
    I grew up studying violin and piano,
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    but I was also expected
    to take all the premed courses
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    and go to med school and become a doctor.
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    But then I went to college,
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    and in college,
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    I got really seduced by this idea
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    of how these seemingly abstract,
    elusive concepts -
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    like beauty and truth and love and art
    and, in particular, music -
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    could actually be understood
    using the objective principles of science.
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    So then I signed up for grad school
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    to study the cognitive
    neuroscience of music.
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    In grad school, I got obsessed
    with this question of,
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    Where does music come from?
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    Music is a multibillion-dollar industry,
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    and that's because people love music.
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    People love to rock out at concerts,
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    and I'd like to think there's something
    about the musical signal
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    that appeals to what
    is uniquely human in each of us.
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    Of course, this is not just true
    of the Western world.
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    This is a picture
    taken in Mali, in West Africa,
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    and he's holding
    this instrument called the ngoni.
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    And although this seems very foreign,
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    what his brain does to listen to music
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    is probably very similar
    to what our brains do to listen to music.
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    Furthermore, the physical principles
    that make his strings vibrate
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    probably are the same
    as what makes our instruments vibrate,
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    like the violin.
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    Now, we don't just love music;
    we also know lots of things about music.
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    Consider, for instance,
    this musical example.
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    (Simple chords on a keyboard)
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    All right. You might say
    that sounds nice and normal,
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    kind of like saying,
    "I took the T here today."
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    What about this?
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    (Same chords, the final one discordant)
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    Right - if you think that sounded normal,
    come talk to me afterwards;
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    we might sign you up
    for that tone-deafness study we're doing.
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    (Laughter)
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    When you heard that last chord,
    your brain does a double take, right?
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    There's something about it
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    that's like saying
    "I took the T here octopus."
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    Nothing wrong with octopus,
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    but it just doesn't fit the context
    of what happened before it;
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    it doesn't fit the grammar.
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    Now, this double take that your brain does
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    can be measured using electrical
    potentials on the surface of the scalp.
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    This is a picture of my mom
    getting her brain potentials recorded,
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    and she's got 64 electrodes
    on her cap there,
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    and what those do
    is make recordings like this.
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    And so on the left, I'm showing you
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    brain responses to expected
    and unexpected musical chords.
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    And on the right,
    I'm showing you the difference
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    between expected and unexpected
    on the surface of the scalp -
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    so this is a bird's-eye view of the scalp.
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    So right away,
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    you can see that 200 milliseconds
    after the onset of the unexpected chord,
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    your brain does this double take:
    "Oh, that was unexpected."
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    In 500 milliseconds,
    you get the brain saying,
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    "Oh, how do I integrate that
    into what happened before?"
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    So this is telling us,
    with millisecond accuracy,
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    that we know about about music;
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    there's something about our brains
    that is very sensitive
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    to what's grammatical in Western music.
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    So the question is,
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    Where does this knowledge come from?
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    How do we come to know what we know?
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    To answer that question,
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    we again have to go all the way back
    to the ancient Greeks.
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    Pythagoras found that if two strings
    are being played together
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    where one string
    is twice the length of the other
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    those two sound good together;
    they sound consonant.
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    So this two-to-one frequency ratio
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    is what, supposedly,
    brought us closer to the Greek gods.
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    In fact, the word "symphony"
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    originally means
    "vibrating in perfect harmony"
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    using these mathematical integer ratios.
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    So this two-to-one frequency ratio
    is true of music all around the world.
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    Now, different cultures divide
    that two-to-one frequency ratio
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    in different ways.
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    In our culture, the equal-tempered
    Western chromatic scale
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    divides them in 12 steps.
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    So this is how it sounds.
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    (13 tones covering a 12-note scale)
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    Okay.
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    Then two guys came along,
    said, "Does it have to be this way?
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    Why two-to-one? Why not three-to-one?"
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    So the Bohlen-Pierce scale is based
    on a three-to-one frequency ratio,
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    and within that, we've got
    13 logarithmic divisions of that scale.
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    So you still get some
    mathematical integer ratios -
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    so the Greek gods are not offended here.
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    But what this sounds like
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    is completely different
    from Western or other types of music.
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    (14 tones covering an alternate scale)
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    So this is a really powerful approach
    to find out what people know about music
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    in the laboratory.
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    So we can be pretty sure people
    have never heard this music before,
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    but they come in, they can listen
    to this music for a while,
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    then we can measure
    how they come to know what they know.
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    So I'm going to play you,
    for about a minute,
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    a snippet of a piece by Stephen Yi.
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    It's called "Reminiscences,"
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    and it's written
    in the Bohlen-Pierce scale,
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    just so you get an idea.
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    (Ethereal music)
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    So this really is kind of an otherworldly
    new musical experience
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    that we're entering here,
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    and in our lab, what we wanted to do
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    was figure out how people learn
    this new musical system.
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    So we have these well-controlled melodies
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    that people listen to
    for about half an hour.
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    (Atonal note progression)
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    So you listen to these things
    for half an hour,
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    and they're defined
    using rules and principles,
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    or grammatical structures,
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    that we've defined ourselves.
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    And then the question is,
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    What can people learn
    from this new musical experience?
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    First thing we found was that memory
    increases with repetition.
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    Turns out, also, that preference
    increases with repetition.
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    So what we're seeing is the beginning
    of musical taste, right?
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    The more you listen to something,
    the more you begin to like it.
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    But I'm interested in how learning occurs.
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    It turns out that learning
    does not occur with repetition
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    but with variability.
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    In other words, the more ways
    you tell people something,
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    the more people are able to infer
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    the underlying structure
    of what you tell them
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    and then to generalize those
    to new instances of the same grammar.
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    Our question becomes, now,
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    We've got 100 trillion
    neural connections to the brain;
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    how did those 100 trillion
    neural connections
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    give rise to what we know
    and love in music?
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    Right now, these neural connections
    are in the order of nanometers,
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    but what we can image
    using the living human brain,
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    using this technology called
    "diffusion tensor imaging,"
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    is large bundles
    of these neural connections -
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    so highways, if you will.
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    And the highway we're most interested in
    is called the arcuate fasciculus
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    and it's known
    to be important in language.
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    But what we saw is the larger
    of an arcuate fasciculus you have,
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    the better you are at learning
    this new musical system.
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    So there's something
    structurally different
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    about a good and a not-so-good
    learner's brain.
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    But what's important
    is that these pathways
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    that are previously known
    to be important in language
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    are actually important in music as well.
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    So this tells us that there
    is no single center for music
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    or there's no one center
    for music in the brain.
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    But what we do have
    are these shared neural networks
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    that are important in language
    and in grammar and in expectation
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    and all these things
    that actually make us human.
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    So I think music -
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    that's actually why people like music.
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    It's not because it's this individualized
    stereotyped activity,
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    but it's something that tickles
    all the different cognitive components
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    and neural mechanisms
    that we already have.
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    Now, that sounds good,
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    but can we actually observe the brain
    as it is learning in real time?
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    So we go back to the millisecond-accuracy
    kind of brain-potential recording,
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    and it turns out that our brains
    respond to new music
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    in very much the same way
    as it does to Western music.
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    So we get the same
    expected-unexpected pattern
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    200 milliseconds and 500 milliseconds
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    after the onset of anything
    that sounds unexpected.
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    And furthermore, our brains respond
    more and more towards these expectations
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    throughout the course of an hour,
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    so as if within an hour,
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    we're getting more and more experts
    in the Bohlen-Pierce scale.
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    So there's no rules of music
    that are written in our brains,
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    but what we do have that are in our brains
    is the immense ability to learn.
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    So we are fundamentally
    open-minded creatures.
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    So what does that mean
    if we want to go back to West Africa?
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    I invite you to take off your headphones
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    and actually experience
    the new musical world.
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    Try to come up with the grammar
    of this seemingly foreign country.
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    You know, so, and what about
    even just being here today?
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    How about change your radio channel
    or listen to a new musical artist today?
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    There's something
    about experiencing new things
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    that, to me, is what it means to thrive
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    because to thrive is to maximize
    our potentials as human beings, right?
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    It's not to do the same thing
    over and over every day,
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    but it's to seek out new experiences,
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    and what I've shown you today
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    is that the brain is fundamentally capable
    of learning new things.
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    We can take - even within an hour,
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    we can have this flexible,
    adaptive ability
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    to make sense of new sounds.
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    So I invite you to listen to new sounds,
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    see new sights
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    and come up with the grammar
    of the world that's around us
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    so that we can learn to love it.
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    Thank you very much.
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    (Applause)
Title:
How our brains learn to like music | Psyche Loui |TEDxCambridge
Description:

Violinist and neuroscientist Psyche Loui discovers our brain's remarkable ability to learn to like new things. As an example, she talks about music that sounds alien to our brain.

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx.

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Duration:
09:47

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