Stories that are meant to be told | Leslie Iwerks | TEDxTorinoSalon
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0:09 - 0:13When an old man dies, a library burns.
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0:13 - 0:16I learned this African proverb
from a friend of mine -
0:16 - 0:20who told me that for the majority
of my career I've been like a firefighter, -
0:20 - 0:23putting out the fires of stories
that were meant to be told. -
0:24 - 0:25Have you ever wished
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0:25 - 0:27you could've interviewed
somebody before they died, -
0:27 - 0:29like a grandparent or a parent?
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0:29 - 0:31Or think about interviewing somebody now,
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0:31 - 0:33but you just haven't quite
gotten around to it? -
0:34 - 0:35We all have a story,
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0:35 - 0:37and whether we know it or not,
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0:37 - 0:39we're shaped by the stories around us.
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0:40 - 0:41For the last 15 years,
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0:41 - 0:44I've had the greatest
opportunities to tell stories. -
0:44 - 0:47I've travelled all seven continents,
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0:47 - 0:50I've been given access into worlds
I would never have expected -
0:50 - 0:53and interviewed people
I would have never thought possible. -
0:53 - 0:57My films have been portrayals
of visionaries and everyday heroes; -
0:57 - 1:01they've been stories
of creativity and technology; -
1:01 - 1:03they've been investigations
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1:03 - 1:06into humanitarian
and environmental themes. -
1:06 - 1:11But when I look back,
now on my career of filmmaking, -
1:12 - 1:16I realize that my filmmaking career
was largely inspired by my childhood. -
1:16 - 1:19My dad and grandfather,
both Academy Award winners, -
1:19 - 1:21worked at the Walt Disney Studios,
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1:21 - 1:24and they designed and developed
the cameras and projection systems -
1:24 - 1:27for the Disney films and theme parks.
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1:27 - 1:29Every now and then,
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1:29 - 1:31my dad had to go down
at Disneyland to work, -
1:31 - 1:34and if I was lucky enough,
he'd take me with him. -
1:34 - 1:37But we didn't go in the main entrance
like everybody else; -
1:37 - 1:39we went in the back entrance.
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1:39 - 1:40And I can tell you,
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1:40 - 1:43going through that gate
was like entering wonderland. -
1:43 - 1:47Pulling back that curtain
and seeing that magic backstage -
1:47 - 1:50was more exciting to me
than what was on stage. -
1:50 - 1:54The people that designed the park
were called Imagineers -
1:54 - 1:56and I grew up learning
of their legendary stories -
1:56 - 1:58of how Disneyland was built.
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1:58 - 2:02Such as how to get ghosts to sing
and dance in the Haunted Mansion ride, -
2:02 - 2:07or how to get fireflies to glow
in the Pirates of the Caribbean ride, -
2:07 - 2:11or how to get Abraham Lincoln's
body and hands to move -
2:11 - 2:14in the Great Moments
with Mr. Lincoln attraction. -
2:14 - 2:18In fact, this is Lincoln's hand,
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2:18 - 2:21and I grew up with this hand
always lying around our house as a kid -
2:21 - 2:25because my dad's hands
were the actual molds for Lincoln's hands. -
2:25 - 2:27Now, my mom, on the other hand,
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2:27 - 2:30did not appreciate finding
this in the freezer, -
2:30 - 2:31(Laughter)
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2:31 - 2:33but I still blame my sister for that.
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2:33 - 2:35So, needless to say,
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2:35 - 2:38I had a great time growing up
behind the scenes. -
2:38 - 2:40So by the time I graduated
from USC Film School, -
2:41 - 2:43I got a job as a director's assistant
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2:43 - 2:45in Hollywood on some
big-budget studio films. -
2:45 - 2:47And it was exciting
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2:47 - 2:51because I got a behind the scenes look
at the sausage-making of moviemaking. -
2:51 - 2:54But as the film ended
and production was over, -
2:54 - 2:57I remember my job started to get mundane.
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2:57 - 3:03And I remember driving
across L.A. morning traffic everyday -
3:03 - 3:06just to do a laundry list
of gofer jobs for the director, -
3:06 - 3:10you know, like walk the dog -
I hate to admit it - -
3:10 - 3:14meet the housekeeper, get the coffee.
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3:14 - 3:15And I remember thinking,
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3:15 - 3:18Is this what I'm really supposed
to be doing with my film school degree? -
3:19 - 3:23So one day on this long boring commute,
an image popped into my mind, -
3:23 - 3:25a photo that my grandfather took,
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3:25 - 3:27back in 1924,
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3:27 - 3:30when he was driving
across country to Hollywood. -
3:30 - 3:32This was always hanging
in my grandparents' house -
3:32 - 3:34when I was a kid, this photograph.
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3:34 - 3:36See, my grandfather had met Walt Disney
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3:36 - 3:39four years earlier
in Kansas City, Missouri. -
3:39 - 3:43They were teenagers and artists
working in an advertising agency. -
3:43 - 3:46They were both passionate about animation.
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3:46 - 3:49And they decided to form
their own business called Iwerks-Disney, -
3:49 - 3:51but it only lasted a month.
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3:52 - 3:54Then Walt decided to go on his own
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3:54 - 3:56and form his own company
called Laugh-O-Grams, -
3:56 - 3:59doing a little cartoons
for the local theatres. -
3:59 - 4:00My grandfather soon joined them
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4:00 - 4:02and they started innovating
little cartoons, -
4:02 - 4:04jerry-rigging animation cameras,
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4:04 - 4:06and they came up with some
great innovative cartoons -
4:06 - 4:09including one that starred
a live-action girl -
4:09 - 4:11in an animated backdrop,
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4:11 - 4:13and this had never been done before.
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4:13 - 4:16But soon Walt's money run out,
and he had to declare bankruptcy, -
4:16 - 4:19so he took off for Hollywood
to go find work, -
4:20 - 4:22and my grandfather
returned to the advertising agency -
4:22 - 4:24for steady employment.
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4:24 - 4:26It was two years later
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4:26 - 4:28when my grandfather received
a letter from Walt -
4:28 - 4:30asking him to come out to Hollywood
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4:30 - 4:34to join him as Chief Animator
on a new cartoon series. -
4:34 - 4:37And my grandfather
had a choice at this moment: -
4:37 - 4:39he could put this letter in the drawer
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4:39 - 4:40and play it safe,
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4:40 - 4:44or he could, you know,
uproot his entire life, -
4:44 - 4:45move across country,
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4:45 - 4:49and go work on some esoteric cartoon
that could totally go bankrupt again. -
4:49 - 4:51But what does he do?
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4:51 - 4:55He trusts his gut,
listens to his instincts, -
4:55 - 4:57and moves across country,
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4:57 - 5:00goes down a long dirt road
into an unknown future. -
5:01 - 5:04This, in storytelling terms,
is called the inciting incident -
5:04 - 5:05or the call to action.
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5:06 - 5:08Everything prior to this moment
is the backstory. -
5:09 - 5:11Everything ahead of this moment
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5:11 - 5:12is the story.
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5:13 - 5:16It's the moment that sets
the protagonist in motion. -
5:16 - 5:18And as this story goes,
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5:18 - 5:21two years after my grandfather
arrived in Hollywood, -
5:21 - 5:24Walt Disney did go belly-up again,
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5:24 - 5:27on a new cartoon series called
"Oswald the Lucky Rabbit". -
5:27 - 5:30When his animation staff jumped ship,
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5:30 - 5:33the one person, the one animator
who stood by his side -
5:33 - 5:34was Ub Iwerks.
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5:35 - 5:38He would go on to design and animate
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5:38 - 5:41the new cartoon character
who would change the world: -
5:41 - 5:42Mickey Mouse.
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5:42 - 5:44Or Topolino, as you all
know him here in Italy. -
5:45 - 5:47So, I was one when my grandfather died,
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5:47 - 5:48and needless to say,
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5:48 - 5:51I was very bummed
that I never got to know him. -
5:51 - 5:53So by the time I got to Junior High,
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5:53 - 5:55I was tasked with doing a book report
on somebody famous -
5:55 - 5:58and I decided to do it on Ub.
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5:58 - 6:00So I start looking through these books
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6:00 - 6:03on animation history
and biographies on Walt Disney. -
6:03 - 6:06What I started finding
was that the stories I was reading -
6:06 - 6:09were different than what I was hearing
in my own family system, -
6:09 - 6:12you know, Ub's contribution
to animation and visual effects -
6:12 - 6:16and his contributions
to Mickey and Minnie Mouse. -
6:16 - 6:19What I realized is there's a story
of collaboration that was missing, -
6:20 - 6:22and as a result, a piece
of animation history was missing. -
6:23 - 6:25And this discrepancy
had always bothered me. -
6:26 - 6:27So here I was,
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6:27 - 6:31driving across town in morning traffic
en route to walk the director's dog. -
6:32 - 6:34And it dawned on me:
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6:34 - 6:36I could save this library.
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6:36 - 6:37What if I go and I interview
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6:37 - 6:40the people that knew my grandfather
before they were gone? -
6:40 - 6:44And maybe I could write a book
or make a film, a documentary -
6:44 - 6:46and share his story with the world.
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6:46 - 6:49I didn't know it at the time,
but this was my call to action. -
6:50 - 6:52So, shortly thereafter,
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6:52 - 6:55I met with Roy E. Disney,
the nephew of Walt, -
6:55 - 6:57and I pitched him my idea
of a documentary. -
6:57 - 7:00And he told me that he had
great respect for Ub -
7:00 - 7:04and he felt that Ub's story
was not only meant to be told, -
7:04 - 7:06it needed to be told.
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7:06 - 7:09And so he convinced the studio
to fund the documentary, -
7:09 - 7:12and before I knew it, I was on my way
to telling my grandfather's story. -
7:12 - 7:15So I spent the next eight months
retracing their footsteps -
7:15 - 7:17back in Kansas City and Hollywood.
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7:17 - 7:19I visited their old sites
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7:19 - 7:22like the Laugh-O-Gram's building
where they got their start. -
7:22 - 7:24And I interviewed the people
that knew him. -
7:24 - 7:27And I learned that Ub and Walt
were like the yin and yang -
7:27 - 7:29of creativity and technology.
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7:29 - 7:31Walt, pictured left here,
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7:31 - 7:34whenever he had a story idea
that needed to be told, -
7:34 - 7:37Ub would figure out a technical
or artistic solution for it. -
7:37 - 7:40Whenever Ub came up
with some technical invention, -
7:40 - 7:43Walt would find a way to put it to use.
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7:43 - 7:45They were always pushing the envelope.
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7:45 - 7:49So this was my first documentary
and I was having a blast, -
7:49 - 7:51but I knew I needed to prove myself.
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7:52 - 7:56So when the time came for me to show
my first cut to the studio executives, -
7:56 - 7:59I remember feeling this sense of anxiety.
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7:59 - 8:01I was about to show them
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8:01 - 8:06a potentially controversial retelling
of the Mickey Mouse origin story. -
8:06 - 8:08I mean, this is from Ub's point of view.
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8:08 - 8:12What if they disagreed with it?
What if they wanted me to change it? -
8:12 - 8:14How would I negotiate this?
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8:14 - 8:18After all, Walt's most famous
quote, arguably, was, -
8:18 - 8:20"It all started with a mouse."
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8:20 - 8:21So fortunately,
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8:21 - 8:25because this was a balanced
and fair and honest retelling, -
8:25 - 8:27the studio not only embraced it,
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8:27 - 8:30they premiered it in Hollywood
and distributed around the world. -
8:30 - 8:33Now people everywhere
could experience the same magic -
8:33 - 8:35that inspired his life and mine.
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8:35 - 8:38And I got to get to know
the grandfather I never knew. -
8:38 - 8:40Not long after this,
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8:40 - 8:43I ran into John Lasseter,
the co-founder of Pixar Animation Studios. -
8:44 - 8:45And he invited me
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8:45 - 8:48to come screen my film up
at the studio for the employees. -
8:49 - 8:53And I remember, at a Q&A
after the film, somebody asked me, -
8:53 - 8:57if I could have done anything differently
in the making of my documentary -
8:57 - 8:59what would it had been?
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8:59 - 9:01And I remember thinking,
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9:01 - 9:03"You know, if I could've gone back in time
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9:03 - 9:06and been a fly on the wall
in the creation of Mickey Mouse, -
9:06 - 9:10recorded those early films
and the behind-the-scenes activity, -
9:11 - 9:13I would have loved that opportunity."
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9:13 - 9:17So, that answer seemed to spark something,
I think, in John's mind, -
9:17 - 9:20because afterwards they shared with me
their long risky journey -
9:20 - 9:22into the creation of computer animation.
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9:23 - 9:28And then, they invited me
to actually be that fly on the wall, -
9:28 - 9:32and go behind the scenes
and actually capture the goings-on -
9:32 - 9:34in the creative process
of Pixar Animation Studios. -
9:34 - 9:36It was very exciting.
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9:36 - 9:39And I remember my interview
with Steve Jobs. -
9:39 - 9:45He told me that Pixar had combined
the creative culture of Hollywood -
9:45 - 9:48with the hi-tech culture
of Silicone Valley. -
9:48 - 9:51Two cultures that previously
did not understand each other. -
9:51 - 9:54A place where as John Lasseter says,
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9:54 - 9:58"Art challenges technology,
and technology inspires art." -
9:59 - 10:01But with all the advancements
in computer animation, -
10:01 - 10:05what didn't change was the need
to create believable worlds -
10:05 - 10:07with living-breathing characters.
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10:07 - 10:11As the classic animators have taught us,
you have to make your characters feel. -
10:11 - 10:12I remember thinking,
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10:12 - 10:16"If I had been a fly on the wall
during the creation of Mickey Mouse, -
10:16 - 10:19would it have looked something like this?"
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10:19 - 10:23This is a scene that I filmed
during the making of Finding Nemo. -
10:23 - 10:27An exchange between director Andrew
Stanton and animator Doug Sweetland. -
10:30 - 10:32[Last day of Finding Nemo dailies]
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10:32 - 10:33(Video) Woman: Doug is next.
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10:33 - 10:35Father: Hey, guess what.
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10:35 - 10:36Nemo: What?
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10:36 - 10:37Father: Sea turtles?
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10:37 - 10:39I met one!
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10:39 - 10:43And it was 150 years old.
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10:43 - 10:47AS: Nemo should be looking
at his dad at the beginning of the shot. -
10:47 - 10:49DS: All the time?
AS: Yeah, he looks like he's dead. -
10:49 - 10:51He looks like he's given up.
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10:51 - 10:52(Laughter)
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10:52 - 10:54He looked at his dad
and he looked at his fin, -
10:54 - 10:57and he should be looking at him
for acknowledgment the whole time. -
10:57 - 11:00They can touch the fin;
they stay looking at each other. -
11:00 - 11:02(Laughter)
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11:05 - 11:07(Music)
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11:11 - 11:12[Doug Sweetland, animator]
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11:12 - 11:17DS: I was focusing permanently on father
and really not on Nemo. -
11:17 - 11:21So I just kind of had Nemo defaulted
to this eyes-forward pose, -
11:21 - 11:24not even thinking about how it would read,
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11:24 - 11:27except that hopefully
you're looking at father. -
11:27 - 11:29But Andrew read it,
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11:29 - 11:32and he was totally right
that he looks completely indifferent. -
11:32 - 11:34(Laughter)
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11:34 - 11:38So now I have to give the same treatment
that I gave father to Nemo. -
11:39 - 11:42But you know, it's not like
starting over or anything, -
11:42 - 11:45but I have to imbue
that character with something. -
11:45 - 11:48So now what I can do is just
go back into the thumbnails, -
11:48 - 11:52and what I can do is use
these same drawings. -
11:55 - 11:57It will be good.
The shot will be a lot better. -
11:57 - 12:04I've done all this stuff too,
where the fin is the symbol of the movie. -
12:04 - 12:05His accepting of his son
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12:05 - 12:08is also the letting go of the past,
of the loss, the trauma -
12:08 - 12:11and what is it to take someone's hand.
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12:11 - 12:12Not only as in an opportunity
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12:12 - 12:16to physically touch
and connect with his son, -
12:16 - 12:19it also marks the new relationship.
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12:19 - 12:21(Music)
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12:22 - 12:24Father: I'm so sorry, Nemo.
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12:32 - 12:34(Music ends)
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12:36 - 12:38(On stage) LI: So,
this behind-the-scenes access -
12:38 - 12:40really gave me a deeper understanding
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12:40 - 12:43for the human journey
through the creative process, -
12:43 - 12:45or that courage to create.
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12:45 - 12:46I learned through my own filmmaking
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12:46 - 12:49that risk-taking is all
about trusting your gut -
12:49 - 12:53and having that confidence
to go down an unpaved road. -
12:53 - 12:57Much like my grandfather did
and much like the founders of Pixar did. -
12:58 - 13:01So when I started receiving
letters from students, -
13:01 - 13:04telling me that this film,
the Pixar story, -
13:04 - 13:07inspired them to pursue
a career in animation, -
13:07 - 13:10that gave me more motivation
to go and find more stories -
13:10 - 13:12that were meant to be told,
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13:12 - 13:15more stories of risk and survival
and risk and adversity. -
13:15 - 13:18But how do you find these stories?
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13:19 - 13:20I can tell you
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13:20 - 13:22that you will often find them
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13:22 - 13:25in the most surprising
and unexpected places. -
13:25 - 13:27I would never have guessed
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13:27 - 13:30that my next film
would have landed me in the trash, -
13:30 - 13:31literally.
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13:31 - 13:36The Guatemala City garbage dump,
the largest landfill in Central America, -
13:37 - 13:41where thousands of families who had fled
Guatemala's 36-year civil war -
13:41 - 13:44had found refuge
recycling the city's trash. -
13:45 - 13:47Outsiders saw these people as degenerates,
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13:47 - 13:51and I saw them as hard-working survivors.
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13:51 - 13:55Vultures and stray dogs
and people were all vying -
13:55 - 13:59for the same half-eaten banana
just dumped from a trash truck. -
13:59 - 14:01Yet, children were joyful here.
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14:01 - 14:05They played with broken toys
and hula-hoops. -
14:05 - 14:07And even Mickey Mouse dolls.
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14:07 - 14:09We asked one woman,
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14:09 - 14:12"What was the best thing
you ever found in the garbage dump?" -
14:12 - 14:15She said, "My husband."
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14:16 - 14:22This was a story of risk,
courage, survival and dignity. -
14:22 - 14:26I grew up in the world of Disneyland,
and this was their playground. -
14:27 - 14:32So I was finding commonality in a place
far from home and how I grew up. -
14:32 - 14:35When people learned
I was doing a documentary -
14:35 - 14:37about people living in a garbage dump,
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14:37 - 14:39they thought I was crazy
for doing this film. -
14:40 - 14:44But when it was nominated
for an Academy Award, -
14:44 - 14:48and benefits screenings
raised three million dollars -
14:48 - 14:51to help build schools in the surrounding
areas of the garbage dump, -
14:51 - 14:53our film "Recycled Life" is proof
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14:53 - 14:57that films that are meant to be told
can make a difference. -
14:57 - 15:02I find that as we get older, we start
to look back at the stories of our lives. -
15:02 - 15:04We start to want to fill in the blanks
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15:04 - 15:07and answer the questions
that we never thought to ask, -
15:07 - 15:10because we were so busy living and doing.
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15:10 - 15:14But when we start being,
our own history starts to matter more. -
15:15 - 15:18If we could just have one more day
with our loved one, -
15:18 - 15:23or we could have been that fly on the wall
to learn about their processes, -
15:24 - 15:27their perspectives
and their lessons in life. -
15:27 - 15:29Stories are all around us.
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15:29 - 15:33And we have the tools and the technology
today like never before, -
15:33 - 15:36to go out and capture them
and share them with others. -
15:36 - 15:39I challenge you, I dare you: go out.
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15:39 - 15:43Find those magical stories
in others, and then yourself. -
15:43 - 15:46Because when we listen
to our own instincts, -
15:46 - 15:48and we answer our own calls to action,
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15:49 - 15:51our stories become a gift to everyone.
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15:52 - 15:55They become the tribal
knowledge to pass down. -
15:55 - 15:57Remember that old African proverb:
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15:57 - 16:02when an old man dies,
or a woman, a library burns. -
16:02 - 16:05Go save some burning
libraries, I dare you. -
16:05 - 16:06Thank you.
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16:06 - 16:09(Applause)
- Title:
- Stories that are meant to be told | Leslie Iwerks | TEDxTorinoSalon
- Description:
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If you could be a fly on the wall, where art and technology meet together, where creatives bring incredible characters to life, what would you hear and see? You’ll learn what’s behind the scene of those great creators. And what if you use the same fresh look, finding the same grace and creativity even in the most difficult life situations, in the most unusual environment? You’ll discover incredible stories around you, essential stories for your life of tomorrow.
Leslie Iwerks is a successful director active on global and humanitarian issues. Her first documentary "The Hand Behind the Mouse: The Ub Iwerks Story (1999)" is dedicated to her grandfather, Ub Iwerks, co-creator of Mickey Mouse. In 2006 she directed "Recycled Life," nominated for an Academy Award, in 2007 "The Pixar Story," nominated at the Emmy, and in 2010 directed "Magic: Creating the Impossible."
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- English
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