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Are we (collectively) stupid? | Brett Hennig | TEDxLakeComo

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    Recently,
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    I came across an interview
    with Yuval Harari
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    where he said,
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    "We should never underestimate
    human stupidity.
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    It’s one of the most
    powerful forces in the world."
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    This reminded me of an essay
    by the Italian Carlo Cipolla
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    where he talks about
    "The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity"
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    and in particular, his first
    fundamental law of human stupidity:
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    "Always and inevitably,
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    everyone underestimates the number
    of stupid people in circulation."
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    (Laughter)
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    So I want to talk about stupidity!
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    But I want to talk about it -
    in particular, I want to ask,
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    Is humanity stupid?
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    But I mean that in a collective sense:
    Are we [collectively stupid]?
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    Because obviously, there are very many
    highly intelligent people in the world.
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    Even here, I'm sure, in this room,
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    there are many very clever people -
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    probably some less clever people
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    but surely, no stupid people, right?
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    (Laughter)
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    Not here.
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    But seriously, I think
    this question is really important.
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    Is humanity stupid?
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    Can we collectively
    make clever decisions?
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    Or is there no hope?
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    Because it would be pretty stupid
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    to pump so much pollution
    into the atmosphere
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    that we poison the air we breathe,
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    to knowingly and willingly heat the planet
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    so that we change the climate
    and change the weather systems
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    that we rely on to grow
    the food we need to eat.
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    It would be pretty stupid
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    for a single species
    on such a beautiful blue planet
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    to let it burn.
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    So we'd better start making some
    clever collective decisions pretty soon,
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    or it’s going to be too late.
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    But how did we get here?
    How did we get to this point?
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    To understand that,
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    I want to look at the history
    of decision making:
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    how we made collective
    decisions in the past,
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    how we are making
    collective decisions today,
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    and how we could make
    better collective decisions
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    tomorrow and into the future.
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    So first, to the past.
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    For hundreds of years,
    all throughout the Middle Ages,
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    we had what you might call
    "Game of Thrones" style decision making -
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    various powerful houses
    slaughtered one another
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    to try to take control
    and be the ones who made the decisions.
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    It was always a battle
    between various rich factions.
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    And here we see a bit of a pattern:
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    that the arrows of political
    and economic power
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    are often in alignment,
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    or to put it more simply,
    the rich often rule.
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    But then, in 1215, in the UK,
    they signed the Magna Charta.
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    This marks the symbolic beginning
    of the era of classical liberalism.
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    The aristocracy and the nobility
    and the other rich people
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    had had enough of the "Game of Thrones,"
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    and they decided to put some constraints
    on the powers of rulers;
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    for example,
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    you could no longer just throw
    your vanquished enemy into a dark dungeon
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    and leave them there to rot.
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    It is absolutely no coincidence
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    that at the end of the final episode
    of Game of Thrones,
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    all the various rich factions sit around
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    and try to come up with a better way
    to make collective decisions.
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    The end of Game of Thrones
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    is all about this transition
    to classical liberalism.
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    Then, after the Middle Ages,
    some major changes happened:
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    the industrial and scientific revolution
    led to the birth of capitalism
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    and the rise of a new group
    of wealthy people
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    who were typically excluded
    from political power.
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    This was perhaps the first time in history
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    that the arrows of political
    and economic power
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    came out of alignment,
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    and this led to war,
    bloodshed, and revolution.
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    Now the rich men, who were victorious
    in these various revolutions,
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    both in the US and in France,
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    had to decide how to make
    collective decisions.
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    And perhaps not surprisingly,
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    both groups of rich men
    came to more or less the same decision:
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    that rich men should rule.
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    So they held elections
    where only rich men could vote,
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    they elected rich men to legislatures,
    and rich men then made the laws.
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    This is the phase that I've called
    "electoral republicanism,"
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    and it brought about the happy outcome
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    of realigning our arrows
    of economic and political power.
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    But some people,
    such as not-so-rich men,
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    weren't very happy about this,
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    and they struggled
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    and, in some places,
    eventually won the right to vote.
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    And this ushered in a new phase
    of decision making
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    which was soon being called "democracy."
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    Now other people,
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    women in England
    and elsewhere in the world,
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    and men and women of color in the US
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    demanded and eventually won
    the right to vote.
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    So now, approximately 90 % of adults
    in our societies can vote.
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    Migrants are probably the largest group
    of disenfranchised people
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    in our societies.
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    But what's surprising, perhaps,
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    is that even though
    most adults can now vote,
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    the composition of our parliaments,
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    of our elected legislatures,
    our congresses
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    haven't changed that much.
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    A hundred years after women
    won the right to vote,
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    most of our rulers are still
    typically rich men -
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    not all of them, just most of them.
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    The arrows of political and economic power
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    are still quite firmly in alignment.
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    Perhaps this answers our question:
    Is humanity stupid?
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    Or is the system by which we select
    our decision makers stupid?
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    Are elections stupid?
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    Who wins elections?
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    The clever people win elections,
    or the cunning people win elections?
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    The honest people win elections,
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    or the people who know how to manipulate
    our fears and anxieties win elections?
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    And when we vote,
    do we make informed decisions,
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    or are we swayed
    by powerful media conglomerates
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    and other groups
    peddling fake and biased news?
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    And once elected,
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    do politicians care more
    about the long-term good
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    of people and the planet,
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    or do they care more about
    how they could win the next election?
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    Now I know that calling elections
    stupid in our societies
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    is tantamount to heresy.
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    Aren't elections
    the cornerstone of democracy?
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    Aren't they the fundamental basis
    on which democracy is built?
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    The answer, the simple answer
    to that question is,
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    "No, they're not."
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    Aristotle, more than 2,000 years ago,
    in the birthplace of democracy,
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    said, "it is thought to be democratic
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    for the officers
    of constitutional government
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    to be assigned by lot,
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    for them to be elected oligarchic."
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    The people in Aristotle's time
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    thought democracy meant lottery,
    or random selection,
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    and that election meant oligarchy.
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    The better way
    to make collective decisions
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    has been known for thousands of years,
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    and fortunately,
    it's being rediscovered today.
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    And that is using "sortition,"
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    which is simply the technical name
    for "random selection" -
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    we must randomly select people
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    and bring them together
    in citizens' assemblies,
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    which are happening all over the world.
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    In Ireland, they have held
    two citizens' assemblies;
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    in France, President Macron
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    is holding a citizens' assembly
    on the climate emergency;
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    in Scotland, they are holding
    two citizens' assemblies;
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    in Wales, they held
    a citizens' assembly last July;
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    and events using sortition
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    have happened in Australia, in Canada,
    in Korea, Japan, Mongolia, Brazil.
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    All around the world,
    events using sortition have happened,
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    and these are just a tiny handful
    of the hundreds of recent events.
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    But what's more exciting to me
    than these ad hoc, one-off events
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    is what's happening in OstBelgien.
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    In the German-speaking region
    of East Belgium,
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    they have created a permanent,
    randomly selected citizens' council
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    to sit alongside the elected parliaments.
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    But how would you run
    a citizens' assembly?
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    How would you set up a citizens' senate?
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    Well, the first thing you want to do
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    is randomly select a broadly
    representative bunch of people.
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    This is typically done in two steps.
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    The first step, you send out invitations
    to a lot of randomly selected people;
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    and from those that respond,
    you do a second random selection,
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    where you make sure
    that you get half men and half women,
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    and proportional numbers
    of young and old, rich and poor.
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    You cannot ask to be a part
    of the citizens' assembly,
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    and you cannot buy a seat
    in the citizens' assembly.
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    The random selection is crucial;
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    it's what makes it fair.
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    Everyone should have an equal chance
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    of being selected
    for the citizens' assembly.
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    So this is your citizens' assembly.
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    The second step is to pour information
    into that citizens' assembly.
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    This is obviously very tricky.
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    For example, who gets
    to choose the experts?
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    Who gets to fact-check what they say?
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    How do you make sure
    that there is a balanced range of views
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    presenting to the citizens' assembly?
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    I'm not going to talk much
    about that today;
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    I only want to say that it can be done,
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    it has been done and done well
    many times all across the world.
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    Then, after you have your ingredients,
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    a broadly representative bunch of people
    in an informed environment,
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    you mix.
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    The technical name for this mixing
    is "deliberation."
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    It's not a debate,
    with winners and losers,
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    and it's not just
    a friendly chat at the pub.
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    It's deliberation.
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    What this means
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    is you do not only say
    what you think and feel,
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    but you say why you think
    and feel the way you do.
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    You say, I think this because ...
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    And it's the "because"
    that's really important;
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    it's the because that lets you understand
    and empathize with others,
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    and for others to understand
    and empathize with you -
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    and then, we make a decision.
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    This decision -
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    after you have sprinkled
    your citizens' assembly
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    with your information
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    and you have mixed with deliberation,
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    you get to decide.
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    This is not public opinion.
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    It is not what you get
    when you run a public opinion poll.
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    It's what you get after people
    have considered the evidence,
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    listened to the advice of experts,
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    and then deliberated with people
    who are very different to themselves.
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    People like you and me,
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    who do not care about getting
    good media coverage
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    and who do not care
    about winning the next election.
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    What you get,
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    instead of a media soundbite,
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    is trusted public judgment.
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    This to me is the democratic ideal
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    and how we could -
    and in some places are -
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    make clever decisions today.
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    So humanity can be collectively clever.
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    Citizens' assemblies
    are a better and fairer way
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    to make clever democratic decisions.
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    Of course it's not easy
    being collectively clever;
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    it takes a bit of work.
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    But I've seen it happen
    again and again and again and again.
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    So the more important question to me now
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    is how do we replace
    elections with sortition
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    before the planet burns.
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    Thank you, grazie.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Are we (collectively) stupid? | Brett Hennig | TEDxLakeComo
Description:

On the stage of TEDxLakeComo, Brett made a compelling case that by randomly selecting their representatives, humans can find smarter collective solutions for the problems in their community. We will only achieve true progress in collective decision making when we manage to root our decisions on empathy and understanding of other people’s problems through an informed dialogue, in search of a truly common good.

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx

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