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A Holocaust survivor on memory, legacy, and the future | Mala Tribich | TEDxCourtauldInstitute

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    I am here because I am witness
    to the horrific events
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    that befell European Jewry
    during the Second World War.
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    And I experienced some of them:
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    life in a ghetto, life as a hidden child,
    as a slave labourer
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    and in two concentration camps.
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    I'm one of those fast disappearing
    numbers of Holocaust survivors
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    who can say, "I saw it. I was there."
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    My task this morning is to condense
    five and a half years and aftermath
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    into 18 minutes, so I've had
    a very difficult job to select.
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    I was born in Poland
    in a town called Piotrków,
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    actually Piotrków Trybunalski,
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    which had a population of about 55,000,
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    of whom some 15,000 were Jewish.
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    There were several synagogues.
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    This is the Great Synagogue,
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    a splendid building
    which dates back to 1793.
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    It was badly damaged during the war.
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    I was the middle child of three,
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    with an older brother, Ben,
    and a younger sister, Łucja.
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    My father had a flour mill -
    he was a partner in a flour mill.
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    My mother was a housewife
    who looked after us at home.
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    I had relatives in several nearby towns,
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    and we used to visit
    and spend holidays together.
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    I started my education at nursery,
    the equivalent of infants, when I was four
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    and made many friends.
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    I moved up to junior school
    at the age of six.
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    We observed the Jewish festivals,
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    and in short, I was living
    a normal happy life in a loving family
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    at the age of eight.
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    But in 1939, on the 1st of September,
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    when the German army invaded Poland,
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    my world collapsed.
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    My hometown, being near the border,
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    was attacked immediately
    by Stuka dive bombers,
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    which had small sirens
    attached to the wings
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    to make a frightening noise.
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    The bombs had whistles
    attached to them at the fins,
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    all designed to create panic,
    which they did.
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    The Polish army was no match
    for the Germans,
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    so Piotrków was very quickly overrun.
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    The occupying troops started
    a campaign of looting and terror.
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    People were attacked for no reason at all.
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    Someone we knew,
    my father's accountant, was shot,
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    and his body was left lying
    in a block of flats for a whole week.
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    The German authorities
    quickly imposed restrictions:
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    all radios were confiscated,
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    so we were isolated
    from the outside world,
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    and valuables had to be handed in.
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    Jews were placed under curfew
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    and were not allowed to walk
    on certain streets,
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    as this sign shows here.
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    We were also required to wear
    an armband with the Star of David,
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    that is shown here.
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    Piotrków was the first town
    in Poland to have a ghetto.
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    At the beginning of November,
    all the Jews were removed from their homes
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    and herded into a small area of the town
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    into which some 10,000 Jews
    from surrounding areas were also packed,
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    so it immediately became very overcrowded.
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    There could be as many
    as three families to a room.
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    Malnutrition and the inadequate
    sanitary conditions
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    caused much illness
    and many epidemic diseases,
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    which in turn caused thousands of deaths.
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    This street sign
    with skull and crossbones,
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    which I remember very well,
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    points to the ghetto.
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    Although there were frequent round-ups
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    and people were being sent away
    to various camps,
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    the main deportation came
    in the autumn of 1942,
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    and I only managed to avoid it
    because my father and my uncle
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    paid for my cousin Idzia and me to stay
    with a Polish family, the Maciejewskis,
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    in a nearby town, Częstochowa,
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    where we lived as Christians.
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    Now, this is a slide of my cousin Idzia.
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    This shows you where Częstochowa was
    in relation to my hometown.
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    We felt very vulnerable and scared
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    because there was actually a reward
    for turning in hidden Jews,
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    and Idzia, an only child,
    was very homesick
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    and begged to be taken back.
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    So after some time,
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    the Maciejewskis supposedly
    took her back to Polish friends
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    who she said were hiding
    her parents' valuables.
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    In the meantime,
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    22,000 people had been deported
    to the extermination camp of Treblinka,
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    where they were murdered immediately.
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    And what came to be called
    "the big ghetto" was liquidated.
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    The remaining inhabitants,
    mainly those with work permits,
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    were confined to a much smaller area,
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    and when it felt safe,
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    my father arranged for me to return
    to what we called "the small ghetto."
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    When I arrived, I found that although
    the valuables had been collected,
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    Idzia had not been returned.
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    There was nothing my distraught uncle
    and aunt could do about it,
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    and we never found out
    what happened to Idzia.
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    Then, after only a few weeks,
    in early December,
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    more than 500 women and children,
    including my mother and younger sister,
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    were rounded up and imprisoned
    in the desecrated synagogue
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    for about a week
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    without food, water,
    warmth or hygienic facilities.
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    And at dawn, on Sunday,
    the 20th of December, 1942,
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    they were marched in groups of 50
    to the nearby Rakow Forest
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    and brutally murdered
    in front of newly-dug mass graves.
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    Only my mother's quick thinking
    saved me from being among them.
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    Then my aunt Irene Helfgott,
    whose husband had been shot,
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    was deported to a labour camp,
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    and I was left
    to look after my cousin Ann,
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    my aunt's five-year-old daughter.
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    Then, there was the final selection.
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    Everyone without work permits,
    which included me and Ann,
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    were lined up outside the ghetto,
    waiting to be loaded onto trucks.
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    We were guarded, none too gently,
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    by police and soldiers with rifles
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    supervised by a German officer.
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    I don't know what gave me
    the idea or the courage,
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    but I stepped out of line,
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    walked up to him,
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    explained that I had been separated
    from my father and brother
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    and asked if I could go back
    into the ghetto.
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    He looked at me with amazement,
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    then smiled
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    and told one of the policemen
    to take me back inside.
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    On the way, after an argument,
    I managed to collect my cousin Ann too.
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    All those remaining had work permits
    and were sent to two local labour camps,
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    and the ghetto was liquidated.
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    My father and brother were allocated
    to the local plywood factory,
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    where, through an unbelievable
    stroke of luck,
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    I also managed to go together with them.
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    So at the age of twelve,
    I became a slave labourer.
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    For almost two years,
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    I was working with machines that made
    plywood huts for the German army.
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    We did not live together as a family;
    men and women were housed separately.
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    While I was out at work, other women
    in the barracks kept an eye on Ann.
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    Living conditions were grim,
    and food was at barely subsistence level,
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    but somehow we managed to keep going.
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    Then, towards the end of 1944,
    the final deportation took place.
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    My father and brother were sent
    to Buchenwald with the men,
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    Ann and I, two aunts
    and a number of my friends
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    were deported with the women
    to Ravensbrück concentration camp,
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    which was in Germany, north of Berlin.
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    Although conditions
    had been constantly deteriorating
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    and at times we felt
    that they could not get any worse,
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    somehow we managed to retain our hope.
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    But when we arrived in Ravensbrück,
    we felt that we would not survive.
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    We had to queue up
    and all our details were recorded.
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    Then we had to undress,
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    everything was taken away from us,
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    our heads were shaved,
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    we went through cold communal showers
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    and were given
    the concentration camp garb,
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    which consisted of a thin striped skirt,
    jacket and a pair of clogs.
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    When we emerged at the other end,
    we could not even recognise one another.
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    We all looked the same.
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    Our personalities, our very souls
    had been taken from us.
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    And at that moment, we lost hope.
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    One of my aunts, Frania Klein,
    died within a few days,
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    and my best friend, Pema Blachman,
    died soon after that.
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    People were just giving up.
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    I was in Ravensbrück
    for a little over two months,
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    and my main memories
    are of the interminable Appells -
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    when we had to stand on the parade ground
    and be counted repeatedly
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    until the numbers were correct -
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    and the meagre daily rations -
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    half a slice of something dark
    called "bread,"
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    some grey liquid called "soup"
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    and some brown liquid
    called "ersatz coffee."
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    But little did we know what was to come.
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    In February 1945, as the Russian
    army was approaching,
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    the Germans became anxious
    to hide the evidence of their evil deeds.
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    So we were marched
    to the cattle trucks again,
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    and at the end of that journey,
    we found ourselves in Bergen-Belsen.
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    When we arrived, the place
    was so overcrowded
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    that we were put up
    in a large tent on bare ground,
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    and this in mid-winter
    with temperatures well below freezing.
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    Next morning, we entered the main camp,
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    and the scene that faced us
    defies description.
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    It was like something out of hell.
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    There was a kind of smog and a smell
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    and skeletal figures shuffling around
    aimlessly like zombies.
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    There were dead bodies everywhere
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    and large piles of twisted,
    decaying, decomposing corpses.
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    Typhus and other diseases were raging.
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    Food was almost non-existent.
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    We were allocated to a hut,
    but the accommodation was so overcrowded
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    that the hut which would have held 80
    might contain hundreds of people,
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    as many as a thousand.
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    Then, quite by chance,
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    I heard that there was a children's hut
    somewhere in the camp,
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    so I set out to find it.
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    This is the hut, 211, the children's hut.
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    When we got there, we were interviewed
    by the people in charge,
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    Doctor Bimko and Sister Luba.
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    And although at first
    they would not accept us,
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    because they also were very overcrowded,
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    with some persistence, I managed
    to get my cousin and myself admitted.
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    The children were mostly Dutch,
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    but there were some
    other nationalities too.
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    I still have a vivid picture
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    of the view from my window:
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    there was a shed for dead bodies
    right opposite us
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    and a constant procession all day.
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    At first, bodies were brought
    in rather dilapidated carts,
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    but after that, they were
    dragged along in blankets,
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    and then it finally degenerated into
    a body being just dragged along by a limb
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    and just thrown into this hut.
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    Just as awful was that the people
    who were forced to do this
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    were barely alive themselves.
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    Although the conditions in these
    children's homes were marginally better,
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    I went down with typhus
    and was extremely ill.
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    I was unaware of my surroundings
    for quite some days
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    and must have been starting to recover
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    when one day,
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    in an upper bunk by the window,
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    I saw some emaciated people
    running towards the gate,
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    and all I could think of was,
    How did they have the strength to run?
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    That was the moment of liberation,
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    when the British troops entered the camp
    on the 15th of April, 1945.
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    Within two days, a hospital was set up,
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    and the medical nursing and relief teams
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    under the command of Brigadier Glyn Hughes
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    gave themselves body and soul
    to the task of saving lives.
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    Thanks to their dedication,
    commitment and compassion,
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    I was nursed back to health.
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    I still remember their kindness
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    after suffering years
    of cruelty and deprivation.
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    When the British took over,
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    the German commandant Kramer
    was immediately arrested,
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    and the guards were forced
    to collect the bodies,
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    which could only be buried in mass graves.
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    Then, all the huts were burnt,
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    and a temporary memorial was set up.
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    In July 1945,
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    Ann and I were sent to Sweden
    with a group of children
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    for rehabilitation,
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    and subsequently I learnt
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    that my brother Ben was the only
    other survivor of my immediate family.
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    He was among a group of children survivors
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    who had been flown
    to England in August 1945.
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    And from him,
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    I heard that our father had been shot
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    trying to escape from a death march,
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    and that was only four days
    before the end of the war.
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    Ben and I were reunited
    when I came to England in 1947.
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    There was no financial support
    for immigrants in those days.
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    I was sponsored by
    a Jewish charitable organisation,
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    and my first task
    was to learn the language
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    and sufficient skills to support myself,
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    which I was able to do within 12 months.
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    I joined a social club
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    which had been set up to help survivors
    to integrate with the community,
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    and through friends, I met Morris Tribich,
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    a young architect
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    who had spent five and a half years
    in the Royal Engineers,
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    some of it in the front line
    in North Africa
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    and at Montecassino, in Italy.
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    We were married in 1950,
    had two children, three grandchildren
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    and enjoyed a happy life
    together for 43 years
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    before he sadly died.
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    Once my children were at school,
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    I set about working
    at the education that I had missed
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    and took O and A levels
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    and eventually obtained a degree
    in sociology from London University.
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    Some years ago, to help me prepare
    a PowerPoint presentation,
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    my friend David, a retired doctor
    and a very old family friend,
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    did a computer search
    for information about my hometown,
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    and he found the original typed list
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    of the names and ages of transport 132
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    of 277 Jewish women and 9 children
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    who had deported
    from Piotrków to Ravensbrück
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    at the end of November 1944.
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    And on that list, he found my name
    and the names of my aunts, my cousin Ann,
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    and he told me that although he had heard
    me tell my story several times,
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    to see the actual physical evidence
    of what had happened to us
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    left him in tears.
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    Yet there are still people
    who say that it never happened.
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    About 20 years ago,
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    I started to speak in public
    about my experiences during the war,
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    mainly at schools under the auspices
    of the Holocaust Educational Trust (HET)
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    and at Beth Shalom,
    the Holocaust Centre in Nottingham.
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    More recently, since the appointment
    of HET ambassadors,
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    I find that I'm speaking
    quite often at universities.
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    So contrary to the rumours
    that come back to us from overseas,
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    Holocaust education
    is very active in the UK
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    and is strongly supported
    by the government.
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    When we speak about the Holocaust,
    we have to remember
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    that is was not only the Jews
    who were the victims.
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    The extermination programme
    started as early as 1940
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    with the mentally and
    physically handicapped,
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    on whom, by trial and error, the man
    who became the notorious commandant
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    of the extermination camps at Sobibór
    and Treblinka, Franz Stangl,
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    learned his trade
    and how to square his conscience.
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    And when it was in full swing,
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    the victims included also
    the Roma, Jehovah's Witnesses
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    and other groups who did not conform
    to the Nazi ideal.
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    One would have thought that the revelation
    of the hideous crimes against humanity
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    that took place in Germany
    and the occupied countries
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    during the Second World War
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    would have been such a shock to humankind
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    that any resurgence of such destructive
    racial and religious hatred
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    would be inconceivable.
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    Yet, in spite of the Holocaust being
    the best documented atrocity
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    in the whole of human history,
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    there are people who claim
    that it never happened.
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    So this, to me, is the value
    of what we remaining survivors are doing:
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    remembering the victims and teaching
    the generations that follow us
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    to be ever on their guard
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    against the denial
    and the repetition of such evil.
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    When I did my first trial run
    of this talk, David said,
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    "You can't finish with that slide,
    you need something more upbeat.
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    Would you ever have dreamt
    when you were queuing up and shivering
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    when you arrived at Ravensbrück
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    on that freezing November day in 1944,
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    that almost 60 years later
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    you would be doing
    what's on the next slide?"
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    And I said, "Not in a million years."
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    Thank you very much.
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Title:
A Holocaust survivor on memory, legacy, and the future | Mala Tribich | TEDxCourtauldInstitute
Description:

January 27, 2015, marked the 70th Holocaust Memorial Day and the inauguration of the UK Holocaust Memorial Foundation. By promoting awareness of what happened during the Holocaust, Mala hopes that we may remain vigilant against anti-Semitism and other forms of prejudice in society today.

Mala Tribich was born in 1930 in Piotrkow Trybunalski, Poland. When the Nazis invaded in 1939, Mala’s family fled eastwards but were later forced into the ghetto established in her hometown. When the ghetto was liquidated, Mala was sent to Ravensbrück concentration camp and then to Bergen-Belsen. She came to England in 1947, where she married and gained a degree, and she now works closely with the Holocaust Educational Trust, an organisation devoted to educating young people about the Holocaust and the important lessons it teaches us.

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDxTalks
Duration:
22:52

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