♪ (Music) ♪ I'm Vanessa Radd. I'm the co-founder of XR Alliance. We promote industry development and we help to bring the VR AR ecosystem here in Asia. My name is Jeremy Keith. I'm a web developer and co-founder of a design agency in Brighton in England called Clearleft. My name is ClogTwo. I'm from Singapore from Ink & Clog Studios. So I'm here at the Mozilla Roadshow event and I will be trying out A-Frame and A-Painter. Right now, I think everyone is pretty much siloed. So designers are doing their own events and they're creating on their own. We'd love to see developers and designers coming together in this community and it'll be great to see at this stage to have more diverse voices and people from different backgrounds to come and create VR and AR. I think that VR AR--the platforms are still siloed by itself and the web would definitely help bring this creative community together and showcase their projects. And I think the power of community is huge. When you want to adopt the technology, what questions you should be asking of that technology? I think it's really important that we have a healthy competition amongst browser makers. We've been in a situation in the past where we had one single browser dominating and that was a bad situation. And so the more browser makers, the better as far as I'm concerned. I'm really excited about what you can do in a web browser these days that previously you would have had to written native apps. So in the next five years I'm just imagining we're going to see the barriers blur between native, web--it won't matter people will just use whatever is handy. And yeah it's exciting times. I guess now in the 21st century, we want to take the art form into the virtual world, into more expressive. You preach art, design, and now comes technology into the place. Be connected with technology. Like right now, it's important for us to move forward. I guess with A-Frame or A-Painter, it gives us the opportunity to actually give our clients or the public a sense of a new environment. You can go as small as a model or as big as a building. I guess my favorite part of A-Frame and A-Painter is you can see all the strokes are being made within a movement. You need to see the artist move around 360 degrees. Without art, the technology is just a body.