WEBVTT 00:00:03.783 --> 00:00:09.263 【♪♪♪】 00:00:09.263 --> 00:00:10.653 アクション! 00:00:10.653 --> 00:00:11.885 大作よ 00:00:11.885 --> 00:00:12.995 ガツンと来たね 00:00:12.995 --> 00:00:14.516 これは本物じゃないと 何度も自分に言い聞かせたよ 00:00:14.516 --> 00:00:15.516 歴史映画を撮影してるみたいだ 00:00:15.516 --> 00:00:18.574 実際、我々がしているのはね 00:00:18.574 --> 00:00:23.519 これが僕のの90%を占めてるよ 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:25.169 この帽子ね 00:00:25.169 --> 00:00:28.571 ウィリアムズバーグのセットを見せてあげよう 00:00:28.571 --> 00:00:34.655 本当にベルリンにいるようなつもりさ 00:00:34.655 --> 00:00:41.198 イディッシュを扱う作品に賛成する 00:00:41.198 --> 00:00:44.026 普段あまり話題にのぼらないからね 00:00:44.026 --> 00:00:47.258 見慣れない衣装や儀式とかね 00:00:47.258 --> 00:00:50.785 でも実際に起こるのは 誰もが身近に感じること 00:00:50.785 --> 00:00:55.505 これはとても美しく 独特なストーリーなの 00:00:55.505 --> 00:00:59.355 まるで2つの世界を見てるみたい 00:00:59.355 --> 00:01:04.385 これは神の存在だとか そういった話ではないの 00:01:04.385 --> 00:01:10.807 もっと、こう… 自分が声をあげる権利とか 00:01:10.807 --> 00:01:13.537 そういう機会をもたない人達 私みたいにね 00:01:13.537 --> 00:01:16.519 今までの人気作品の中で 私達のようなキャラは 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:18.142 見たことがないわね 00:01:18.142 --> 00:01:20.787 だから一体どうやって 作っていけばいいのか困ったわ 00:01:20.787 --> 00:01:23.634 多分これがはじめて ハシディック派ユダヤを 00:01:23.634 --> 00:01:25.356 描いた作品じゃないかしら 00:01:25.356 --> 00:01:29.704 ここに居る人々は本物で 彼らの人生は共感でき 00:01:29.704 --> 00:01:31.371 自分にも関係あることだ 00:01:31.371 --> 00:01:34.338 コミュニティが監視してて 私みたいな人がいて 00:01:34.338 --> 00:01:38.537 その子を見て まるで本当にそこに生きてて 00:01:38.537 --> 00:01:42.952 夢を追う勇気を得る様子をみて 00:01:42.952 --> 00:01:45.085 私にもできるかもって 00:01:53.143 --> 00:01:56.220 アンナとアレクサとは 会った途端に友達になったの 00:01:56.220 --> 00:02:00.168 すぐに確信したわ 皆に受け入れてもらえる作品だと 00:02:00.168 --> 00:02:01.653 少しでも見てもらえれば 00:02:01.653 --> 00:02:03.555 主題はしっかりしていて 00:02:03.555 --> 00:02:06.403 前向きに異文化を紹介している 00:02:06.403 --> 00:02:07.853 彼女たちがね 00:02:07.853 --> 00:02:09.972 デボラにあって 彼女の本を読んだあと 00:02:09.972 --> 00:02:11.357 これは凄いと思ったわ 00:02:11.357 --> 00:02:14.357 一気に読み終えたわ 止められなかったの 00:02:14.357 --> 00:02:16.592 デボラが言ったわ 00:02:16.592 --> 00:02:19.848 "私の本をTVドラマに出来ないか”って 00:02:19.848 --> 00:02:22.356 アンナと私は本気でドラマ化を望んだわ 00:02:22.356 --> 00:02:27.503 どんな主題が一番しっくりくるのか 00:02:27.503 --> 00:02:31.738 何度も議論したわね 特にドイツでのユダヤ人について 00:02:31.738 --> 00:02:34.371 私にとってこの話は 若い女性が 00:02:34.371 --> 00:02:37.057 自分自身を探して 00:02:37.057 --> 00:02:39.807 世界のどこかにある 自分のコミュニティを探している 00:02:39.807 --> 00:02:42.408 エスターは19歳の女の子、 00:02:42.408 --> 00:02:46.441 生まれも育ちも ブルックリンのウィリアムズバーグ 00:02:46.441 --> 00:02:49.941 そこのサトマーと呼ばれる コミュニティで 00:02:51.491 --> 00:02:54.338 "いいわねエスター、彼が1番に話すのよ" 00:02:54.338 --> 00:02:58.221 彼女の育った地域は とても宗教に敬虔で 00:02:58.221 --> 00:03:04.372 彼女を残念な見合い結婚に送り出し 00:03:04.372 --> 00:03:06.024 同時にベルリンにも送った 00:03:06.024 --> 00:03:10.184 彼女の話は独特でロマンティックね 00:03:10.184 --> 00:03:13.423 こういった環境には違和感を感じたわ 00:03:13.423 --> 00:03:18.645 ニューヨーク、ブルックリンにある とても狭いコミュニティ 00:03:18.645 --> 00:03:22.255 そこでしか生きていけない 00:03:22.255 --> 00:03:25.605 幼い頃から彼女は 何か違うと感じていた 00:03:25.605 --> 00:03:28.242 彼女はずっと周りと違うと 言われ続けてきたの 00:03:28.242 --> 00:03:32.672 なぜなら彼女はいつも疑問をもってたから 00:03:32.672 --> 00:03:35.643 それに‘大胆不敵-chutzpah’な性格もね 00:03:36.223 --> 00:03:40.706 サトマーのユダヤ人は ハシディック派に属している 00:03:40.706 --> 00:03:43.622 起源はハンガリーのサトゥ・マーレ県 00:03:43.622 --> 00:03:47.673 ほとんどがホロコーストを 生き延びた者達の子孫で 00:03:47.673 --> 00:03:52.105 戦後、ニューヨークで興ったの 00:03:52.105 --> 00:03:54.606 この背景がほかのハシディック派とは 00:03:54.606 --> 00:03:56.890 少し異なった様子を見せることになるわ 00:03:56.890 --> 00:04:00.774 彼らは自身の在り方について戦後 しっかりと確立してきたの 00:04:00.774 --> 00:04:02.154 戦前では無かった事よ 00:04:02.154 --> 00:04:04.519 創設したのは戦争を知り 00:04:04.519 --> 00:04:06.996 恐ろしいトラウマに 悩まされた者たち 00:04:06.996 --> 00:04:10.155 第一世代、 00:04:10.155 --> 00:04:12.422 もしくはその次の世代さえも 00:04:12.422 --> 00:04:14.488 このトラウマが強い力をもって 00:04:14.488 --> 00:04:17.261 コミュニティの陰に 潜んでいることを感じるの 00:04:17.261 --> 00:04:21.725 サトマーはイディッシュ語の中でも 特異な点があるわ 00:04:21.725 --> 00:04:24.658 ある意味、彼らは貢献しているのよ 00:04:24.658 --> 00:04:26.614 イディッシュ語の存続にね 00:04:27.194 --> 00:04:28.923 ”でも、何でベルリンなんか” ”考えてもみろ” 00:04:28.923 --> 00:04:31.556 ”何を?” ”彼女のおかしな母親がベルリンに” 00:04:31.556 --> 00:04:35.310 私達にが大切にしていたのは デボラの実体験と現代の話との 00:04:35.310 --> 00:04:38.077 違いを作る事でした 00:04:38.077 --> 00:04:40.942 何故なら彼女は若い女性で 知名度があり 00:04:40.942 --> 00:04:44.689 評論家でもあります 私達はエスターのベルリンでの生活は 00:04:44.689 --> 00:04:49.042 デボラが実際にベルリンで過ごしたものとは 違うものであって欲しかったのです 00:04:49.042 --> 00:04:51.956 なので本では フラッシュバックになっているシーンでは 00:04:51.956 --> 00:04:55.108 そのシーンを実際に描きました 00:04:57.348 --> 00:05:00.208 ありきたりな物語にはしたくありません 00:05:00.208 --> 00:05:03.908 このようなコミュニティについて 私達が抱く思い込みを 00:05:03.908 --> 00:05:05.823 反映させたくありません 00:05:05.823 --> 00:05:09.857 大事にしていたのはただ単に 00:05:09.857 --> 00:05:13.804 慣習や儀式を完璧に再現するのではなく 00:05:13.804 --> 00:05:19.774 登場人物たちの世界においては本物の 行為として 00:05:19.774 --> 00:05:21.675 描きたかったんです 00:05:21.675 --> 00:05:24.190 00:05:24.190 --> 00:05:26.958 00:05:26.958 --> 00:05:30.745 00:05:30.745 --> 00:05:33.755 00:05:33.755 --> 00:05:36.876 00:05:36.876 --> 00:05:40.790 00:05:40.790 --> 00:05:42.825 00:05:42.825 --> 00:05:46.440 00:05:46.440 --> 00:05:52.907 00:05:52.907 --> 00:05:54.740 00:05:54.740 --> 00:05:56.907 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