1 00:00:01,523 --> 00:00:02,960 Twice a week, 2 00:00:02,984 --> 00:00:05,492 I drive from my home near Tijuana, Mexico, 3 00:00:05,516 --> 00:00:08,674 over the US border, to my office in San Diego. 4 00:00:08,698 --> 00:00:12,854 The stark contrast between the poverty and desperation on one side of the border 5 00:00:12,878 --> 00:00:14,737 and the conspicuous wealth on the other 6 00:00:14,761 --> 00:00:16,449 always feels jarring. 7 00:00:16,473 --> 00:00:19,203 But what makes this contrast feel even starker 8 00:00:19,227 --> 00:00:22,514 is when I pass by the building that those of us who work on the border 9 00:00:22,538 --> 00:00:24,855 unaffectionately refer to as the black hole. 10 00:00:24,879 --> 00:00:27,316 The black hole is the Customs and Border Protection, 11 00:00:27,340 --> 00:00:28,641 or CBP facility, 12 00:00:28,665 --> 00:00:30,466 at the San Ysidro port of entry, 13 00:00:30,490 --> 00:00:32,879 right next to a luxury outlet mall. 14 00:00:32,903 --> 00:00:34,975 It's also where, at any one time, 15 00:00:34,999 --> 00:00:36,791 there's likely 800 immigrants 16 00:00:36,815 --> 00:00:40,259 locked in freezing, filthy, concrete cells below the building. 17 00:00:40,609 --> 00:00:43,291 Up top: shopping bags and frappuccinos. 18 00:00:43,315 --> 00:00:47,093 Downstairs: the reality of the US immigration system. 19 00:00:47,117 --> 00:00:50,212 And it's where, one day in September of 2018, 20 00:00:50,236 --> 00:00:52,465 I found myself trying to reach Anna, 21 00:00:52,489 --> 00:00:56,347 a woman who CBP had recently separated from her seven-year-old son. 22 00:00:57,101 --> 00:00:58,412 I'm an immigration attorney 23 00:00:58,436 --> 00:01:01,220 and the policy and litigation director of Al Otro Lado, 24 00:01:01,244 --> 00:01:05,497 a binational nonprofit helping immigrants on both sides of the US-Mexico border. 25 00:01:05,982 --> 00:01:09,188 We'd met Anna several weeks earlier at our Tijuana office, 26 00:01:09,212 --> 00:01:13,196 where she explained that she feared she and her son would be killed in Mexico. 27 00:01:13,220 --> 00:01:16,871 So we prepared her for the process of turning herself over to CBP 28 00:01:16,895 --> 00:01:18,220 to ask for asylum. 29 00:01:19,109 --> 00:01:22,341 A few days after she'd gone to the port of entry to ask for help, 30 00:01:22,365 --> 00:01:23,947 we received a frantic phone call 31 00:01:23,971 --> 00:01:26,365 from her family members in the United States, 32 00:01:26,389 --> 00:01:29,762 telling us that CBP officials had taken Anna's son from her. 33 00:01:30,357 --> 00:01:32,243 Now, not that this should matter, 34 00:01:32,267 --> 00:01:34,791 but I knew that Anna's son had special needs. 35 00:01:34,815 --> 00:01:35,973 And once again, 36 00:01:35,997 --> 00:01:38,744 this news filled me with the sense of panic and foreboding 37 00:01:38,768 --> 00:01:41,576 that has unfortunately become a hallmark of my daily work. 38 00:01:42,020 --> 00:01:44,957 I had a signed authorization to act as Anna's attorney, 39 00:01:44,981 --> 00:01:46,989 so I rushed over to the port of entry 40 00:01:47,013 --> 00:01:48,901 to see if I could speak with my client. 41 00:01:49,259 --> 00:01:52,349 Not only would CBP officials not let me speak to Anna, 42 00:01:52,373 --> 00:01:54,753 but they wouldn't even tell me if she was there. 43 00:01:55,063 --> 00:01:57,269 I went from supervisor to supervisor, 44 00:01:57,293 --> 00:02:00,476 begging to submit evidence of Anna's son's special needs, 45 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:02,778 but no one would even talk to me about the case. 46 00:02:03,133 --> 00:02:06,240 It felt surreal to watch the shoppers strolling idly by 47 00:02:06,264 --> 00:02:08,860 what felt like a life-and-death situation. 48 00:02:09,490 --> 00:02:12,506 After several hours of being stonewalled by CBP, 49 00:02:12,530 --> 00:02:13,918 I left. 50 00:02:13,942 --> 00:02:15,101 Several days later, 51 00:02:15,125 --> 00:02:17,704 I found Anna's son in the foster-care system. 52 00:02:17,728 --> 00:02:19,760 But I didn't know what happened to Anna 53 00:02:19,784 --> 00:02:21,133 until over a week later, 54 00:02:21,157 --> 00:02:24,132 when she turned up at a detention camp a few miles east. 55 00:02:24,458 --> 00:02:26,871 Now, Anna didn't have a criminal record, 56 00:02:26,895 --> 00:02:29,672 and she followed the law when asking for asylum. 57 00:02:29,696 --> 00:02:33,353 Still, immigration officials held her for three more months, 58 00:02:33,377 --> 00:02:35,250 until we could win her release 59 00:02:35,274 --> 00:02:37,511 and help her reunify with her son. 60 00:02:37,893 --> 00:02:41,162 Anna's story is not the only story I could tell you. 61 00:02:41,186 --> 00:02:44,037 There's Mateo, an 18-month-old boy, 62 00:02:44,061 --> 00:02:46,125 who was ripped from his father's arms 63 00:02:46,149 --> 00:02:48,831 and sent to a government shelter thousands of miles away, 64 00:02:48,855 --> 00:02:51,772 where they failed to properly bathe him for months. 65 00:02:51,796 --> 00:02:52,968 There's Amadou, 66 00:02:52,992 --> 00:02:54,668 an unaccompanied African child, 67 00:02:54,692 --> 00:02:59,759 who was held with adults for 28 days in CBP's horrific facilities. 68 00:03:00,581 --> 00:03:02,799 Most disturbingly, there's Maria, 69 00:03:02,823 --> 00:03:07,108 a pregnant refugee who begged for medical attention for eight hours 70 00:03:07,132 --> 00:03:09,599 before she miscarried in CBP custody. 71 00:03:09,926 --> 00:03:12,982 CBP officials held her for three more weeks 72 00:03:13,006 --> 00:03:15,069 before they sent her back to Mexico, 73 00:03:15,093 --> 00:03:17,030 where she is being forced to wait months 74 00:03:17,054 --> 00:03:19,236 for an asylum hearing in the United States. 75 00:03:20,331 --> 00:03:23,656 Seeing these horrors day in and day out has changed me. 76 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,736 I used to be fun at parties, 77 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,343 but now, I inevitably find myself telling people 78 00:03:29,367 --> 00:03:32,248 about how our government tortures refugees at the border 79 00:03:32,272 --> 00:03:34,264 and in the detention camps. 80 00:03:34,288 --> 00:03:36,074 Now, people try to change the subject 81 00:03:36,098 --> 00:03:40,488 and congratulate me for the great work I'm doing in helping people like Anna. 82 00:03:40,512 --> 00:03:42,599 But I don't know how to make them understand 83 00:03:42,623 --> 00:03:46,179 that unless they start fighting, harder than they ever thought possible, 84 00:03:46,203 --> 00:03:49,504 we don't know which of us will be the next to suffer Anna's fate. 85 00:03:50,337 --> 00:03:53,022 Trump's mass separations of refugee families 86 00:03:53,046 --> 00:03:54,202 at the southern border 87 00:03:54,226 --> 00:03:55,997 shocked the conscience of the world 88 00:03:56,021 --> 00:03:58,838 and woke many to the cruelties of the US immigration system. 89 00:03:59,307 --> 00:04:00,466 It seems like today, 90 00:04:00,490 --> 00:04:03,791 more people than ever are involved in the fight for immigrant rights. 91 00:04:03,815 --> 00:04:07,101 But unfortunately, the situation is just not getting better. 92 00:04:07,749 --> 00:04:10,685 Thousands protested to end family separations, 93 00:04:10,709 --> 00:04:13,185 but the government is still separating families. 94 00:04:13,209 --> 00:04:16,050 More than 900 children have been taken from their parents 95 00:04:16,074 --> 00:04:17,701 since June of 2018. 96 00:04:18,188 --> 00:04:22,034 Thousands more refugee children have been taken from their grandparents, 97 00:04:22,058 --> 00:04:24,823 siblings and other family members at the border. 98 00:04:24,847 --> 00:04:26,432 Since 2017, 99 00:04:26,456 --> 00:04:30,022 at least two dozen people have died in immigration custody. 100 00:04:30,046 --> 00:04:32,878 And more will die, including children. 101 00:04:34,006 --> 00:04:37,387 Now, we lawyers can and will keep filing lawsuits 102 00:04:37,411 --> 00:04:40,537 to stop the government from brutalizing our clients, 103 00:04:40,561 --> 00:04:43,265 but we can't keep tinkering around the edges of the law 104 00:04:43,289 --> 00:04:46,089 if we want migrants to be treated humanely. 105 00:04:46,614 --> 00:04:50,720 This administration would have you believe that we have to separate families 106 00:04:50,744 --> 00:04:52,458 and we have to detain children, 107 00:04:52,482 --> 00:04:55,553 because it will stop more refugees from coming to our borders. 108 00:04:55,577 --> 00:04:57,220 But we know that this isn't true. 109 00:04:57,244 --> 00:04:59,149 In fact, in 2019, 110 00:04:59,173 --> 00:05:01,577 the number of apprehensions at our southern border 111 00:05:01,601 --> 00:05:03,212 has actually gone up. 112 00:05:03,236 --> 00:05:05,347 And we tell people every day at the border, 113 00:05:05,371 --> 00:05:07,514 "If you seek asylum in the United States, 114 00:05:07,538 --> 00:05:09,212 you risk family separation, 115 00:05:09,236 --> 00:05:11,560 and you risk being detained indefinitely." 116 00:05:11,584 --> 00:05:14,909 But for many of them, the alternative is even worse. 117 00:05:15,862 --> 00:05:19,980 People seek refuge in the United States for a lot of different reasons. 118 00:05:20,004 --> 00:05:22,941 In Tijuana, we've met refugees from over 50 countries, 119 00:05:22,965 --> 00:05:24,949 speaking 14 different languages. 120 00:05:25,267 --> 00:05:28,180 We meet LGBT migrants from all over the world 121 00:05:28,204 --> 00:05:31,061 who have never been in a country in which they feel safe. 122 00:05:31,418 --> 00:05:33,323 We meet women from all over the world 123 00:05:33,347 --> 00:05:35,641 whose own governments refuse to protect them 124 00:05:35,665 --> 00:05:39,053 from brutal domestic violence or repressive social norms. 125 00:05:39,619 --> 00:05:41,667 Of course, we meet Central American families 126 00:05:41,691 --> 00:05:43,484 who are fleeing gang violence. 127 00:05:43,508 --> 00:05:45,524 But we also meet Russian dissidents, 128 00:05:45,548 --> 00:05:47,032 Venezuelan activists, 129 00:05:47,056 --> 00:05:51,016 Christians from China, Muslims from China, 130 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,436 and thousands and thousands of other refugees 131 00:05:53,460 --> 00:05:56,006 fleeing all types of persecution and torture. 132 00:05:56,563 --> 00:06:00,103 Now, a lot of these people would qualify as refugees 133 00:06:00,127 --> 00:06:02,563 under the international legal definition. 134 00:06:02,871 --> 00:06:06,196 The Refugee Convention was created after World War II 135 00:06:06,220 --> 00:06:09,063 to give protection to people fleeing persecution 136 00:06:09,087 --> 00:06:13,527 based on their race, religion, nationality, political opinion 137 00:06:13,551 --> 00:06:15,813 or membership in a particular social group. 138 00:06:16,115 --> 00:06:19,980 But even those who would be refugees under the international definition 139 00:06:20,004 --> 00:06:22,807 are not going to win asylum in the United States. 140 00:06:22,831 --> 00:06:25,029 And that's because since 2017, 141 00:06:25,053 --> 00:06:29,109 the US Attorneys General have made sweeping changes to asylum law, 142 00:06:29,133 --> 00:06:33,101 to make sure that less people qualify for protection in the United States. 143 00:06:33,474 --> 00:06:36,244 Now these laws are mostly aimed at Central Americans 144 00:06:36,268 --> 00:06:38,101 and keeping them out of the country, 145 00:06:38,125 --> 00:06:41,165 but they affect other types of refugees as well. 146 00:06:41,498 --> 00:06:45,450 The result is that the US frequently deports refugees 147 00:06:45,474 --> 00:06:47,541 to their persecution and death. 148 00:06:48,689 --> 00:06:52,839 The US is also using detention to try to deter refugees 149 00:06:52,863 --> 00:06:55,448 and make it harder for them to win their cases. 150 00:06:55,472 --> 00:07:00,321 Today, there are over 55,000 immigrants detained in the United States, 151 00:07:00,345 --> 00:07:02,797 many in remote detention facilities, 152 00:07:02,821 --> 00:07:04,551 far from any type of legal help. 153 00:07:04,575 --> 00:07:06,577 And this is very important. 154 00:07:06,601 --> 00:07:09,616 Because it's civil and not criminal detention, 155 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,918 there is no public defender system, 156 00:07:11,942 --> 00:07:14,831 so most detained immigrants are not going to have an attorney 157 00:07:14,855 --> 00:07:16,354 to help them with their cases. 158 00:07:16,768 --> 00:07:18,823 An immigrant who has an attorney 159 00:07:18,847 --> 00:07:21,863 is up to 10 times more likely to win their case 160 00:07:21,887 --> 00:07:23,287 than one who doesn't. 161 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,862 And as you've seen, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, 162 00:07:26,886 --> 00:07:30,220 but the situation is even worse for refugee families today 163 00:07:30,244 --> 00:07:32,673 than it was during family separation. 164 00:07:32,697 --> 00:07:35,189 Since January of 2019, 165 00:07:35,213 --> 00:07:36,991 the US has implemented a policy 166 00:07:37,015 --> 00:07:41,038 that's forced over 40,000 refugees to wait in Mexico 167 00:07:41,062 --> 00:07:44,000 for asylum hearings in the United States. 168 00:07:44,024 --> 00:07:46,849 These refugees, many of whom are families, 169 00:07:46,873 --> 00:07:49,999 are trapped in some of the most dangerous cities in the world, 170 00:07:50,023 --> 00:07:51,985 where they're being raped, kidnapped 171 00:07:52,009 --> 00:07:54,180 and extorted by criminal groups. 172 00:07:54,204 --> 00:07:57,815 And if they survive for long enough to make it to their asylum hearing, 173 00:07:57,839 --> 00:08:01,179 less than one percent of them are able to find an attorney 174 00:08:01,203 --> 00:08:03,203 to help them with their cases. 175 00:08:04,363 --> 00:08:08,923 The US government will point to the lowest asylum approval rates 176 00:08:08,947 --> 00:08:11,455 to argue that these people are not really refugees, 177 00:08:11,479 --> 00:08:15,185 when in fact, US asylum law is an obstacle course 178 00:08:15,209 --> 00:08:16,994 designed to make them fail. 179 00:08:17,018 --> 00:08:19,967 Now not every migrant at the border is a refugee. 180 00:08:19,991 --> 00:08:22,078 I meet plenty of economic migrants. 181 00:08:22,102 --> 00:08:25,197 For example, people who want to go to the United States to work, 182 00:08:25,221 --> 00:08:27,007 to pay medical bills for a parent 183 00:08:27,031 --> 00:08:29,674 or school fees for a child back home. 184 00:08:29,698 --> 00:08:32,709 Increasingly, I'm also meeting climate refugees. 185 00:08:32,733 --> 00:08:36,543 In particular, I'm meeting a lot of indigenous Central Americans 186 00:08:36,567 --> 00:08:39,313 who can no longer sustain themselves by farming, 187 00:08:39,337 --> 00:08:41,526 due to catastrophic drought in the region. 188 00:08:42,061 --> 00:08:43,799 We know that today, 189 00:08:43,823 --> 00:08:46,561 people are migrating because of climate change, 190 00:08:46,585 --> 00:08:48,776 and that more will do so in the future, 191 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,513 but we simply don't have a legal system to deal with this type of migration. 192 00:08:53,522 --> 00:08:56,841 So, it would make sense, as a start, 193 00:08:56,865 --> 00:08:58,704 to expand the refugee definition 194 00:08:58,728 --> 00:09:01,585 to include climate refugees, for example. 195 00:09:01,609 --> 00:09:04,490 But those of us in a position to advocate for those changes 196 00:09:04,514 --> 00:09:06,371 are too busy suing our government 197 00:09:06,395 --> 00:09:10,410 to keep the meager legal protections that refugees enjoy under the current law. 198 00:09:10,434 --> 00:09:12,467 And we are exhausted, 199 00:09:12,491 --> 00:09:14,691 and it's almost too late to help. 200 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:16,918 And we know now 201 00:09:16,942 --> 00:09:19,221 that this isn't America's problem alone. 202 00:09:19,245 --> 00:09:22,490 From Australia's brutal offshore detention camps 203 00:09:22,514 --> 00:09:27,807 to Italy's criminalization of aid to migrants drowning in the Mediterranean, 204 00:09:27,831 --> 00:09:30,641 first-world countries have gone to deadly lengths 205 00:09:30,665 --> 00:09:33,260 to keep refugees from reaching our shores. 206 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,985 But they've done more than restrict the refugee definition. 207 00:09:37,009 --> 00:09:40,350 They've created parallel, fascist-style legal systems 208 00:09:40,374 --> 00:09:44,469 in which migrants have none of the rights that form the basis of a democracy, 209 00:09:44,493 --> 00:09:48,207 the alleged foundation of the countries in which they're seeking refuge. 210 00:09:48,776 --> 00:09:50,721 History shows us that the first group 211 00:09:50,745 --> 00:09:54,538 to be vilified and stripped of their rights is rarely the last, 212 00:09:54,562 --> 00:09:57,054 and many Americans and Europeans 213 00:09:57,078 --> 00:10:01,239 seem to accept an opaque and unjust legal system for noncitizens, 214 00:10:01,263 --> 00:10:03,001 because they think they are immune. 215 00:10:03,025 --> 00:10:04,231 But eventually, 216 00:10:04,255 --> 00:10:07,889 these authoritarian ideals bleed over and affect citizens as well. 217 00:10:08,644 --> 00:10:10,149 I learned this firsthand 218 00:10:10,173 --> 00:10:13,172 when the US government placed me on an illegal watch list 219 00:10:13,196 --> 00:10:15,744 for my work helping immigrants at the border. 220 00:10:16,411 --> 00:10:18,363 One day, in January of 2019, 221 00:10:18,387 --> 00:10:20,298 I was leaving my office in San Diego 222 00:10:20,322 --> 00:10:22,950 and crossing the border to go back to my home in Mexico. 223 00:10:23,609 --> 00:10:26,912 Mexican officials, although they had given me a valid visa, 224 00:10:26,936 --> 00:10:29,675 stopped me and told me that I couldn't enter the country 225 00:10:29,699 --> 00:10:33,523 because a foreign government had placed a travel alert on my passport, 226 00:10:33,547 --> 00:10:36,229 designating me as a national security risk. 227 00:10:36,253 --> 00:10:39,993 I was detained and interrogated in a filthy room for hours. 228 00:10:40,017 --> 00:10:41,493 I begged the Mexican officials 229 00:10:41,517 --> 00:10:44,389 to let me go back to Mexico and pick up my son, 230 00:10:44,413 --> 00:10:46,699 who was only 10 months old at the time. 231 00:10:47,515 --> 00:10:48,675 But they refused, 232 00:10:48,699 --> 00:10:51,141 and instead, they turned me over to CBP officials, 233 00:10:51,165 --> 00:10:53,910 where I was forced back into the United States. 234 00:10:53,934 --> 00:10:57,406 It took me weeks to get another visa so that I could go back to Mexico, 235 00:10:57,430 --> 00:11:00,065 and I went to the border, visa in hand. 236 00:11:00,089 --> 00:11:02,136 But again, I was detained and interrogated 237 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,033 because there was still a travel alert on my passport. 238 00:11:05,597 --> 00:11:06,871 Shortly after, 239 00:11:06,895 --> 00:11:08,928 leaked internal CBP documents 240 00:11:08,952 --> 00:11:11,006 confirmed that my own government 241 00:11:11,030 --> 00:11:14,174 had been complicit in issuing this travel alert against me. 242 00:11:14,538 --> 00:11:17,506 And since then, I haven't traveled to any other countries, 243 00:11:17,530 --> 00:11:19,403 because I'm afraid I'll be detained 244 00:11:19,427 --> 00:11:21,760 and deported from those countries as well. 245 00:11:22,228 --> 00:11:24,514 These travel restrictions, detentions 246 00:11:24,538 --> 00:11:26,625 and separation from my infant son 247 00:11:26,649 --> 00:11:30,727 are things I never thought I would experience as a US citizen, 248 00:11:30,751 --> 00:11:34,703 but I'm far from the only person being criminalized for helping immigrants. 249 00:11:34,727 --> 00:11:38,489 The US and other countries have made it a crime to save lives, 250 00:11:38,513 --> 00:11:41,442 and those of us who are simply trying to do our jobs 251 00:11:41,466 --> 00:11:44,914 are being forced to choose between our humanity and our freedom. 252 00:11:45,498 --> 00:11:47,410 And the thing that makes me so desperate 253 00:11:47,434 --> 00:11:49,998 is that all of you are facing the same choice, 254 00:11:50,022 --> 00:11:51,903 but you don't understand it yet. 255 00:11:52,553 --> 00:11:54,895 And I know there are good people out there. 256 00:11:54,919 --> 00:11:56,831 I saw thousands of you in the streets, 257 00:11:56,855 --> 00:11:58,788 protesting family separation. 258 00:11:59,268 --> 00:12:02,910 And that largely helped bring about an end to the official policy. 259 00:12:03,588 --> 00:12:06,461 But we know that the government is still separating children. 260 00:12:06,485 --> 00:12:08,525 And things are actually getting worse. 261 00:12:08,549 --> 00:12:11,368 Today, the US government is fighting for the right 262 00:12:11,392 --> 00:12:14,826 to detain refugee children indefinitely in prison camps. 263 00:12:15,538 --> 00:12:16,958 This isn't over. 264 00:12:16,982 --> 00:12:20,196 We cannot allow ourselves to become numb or look away. 265 00:12:21,077 --> 00:12:23,291 Those of us who are citizens of countries 266 00:12:23,315 --> 00:12:27,220 whose policies cause detention, separation and death, 267 00:12:27,244 --> 00:12:29,869 need to very quickly decide which side we're on. 268 00:12:30,401 --> 00:12:35,259 We need to demand that our laws respect the inherent dignity of all human beings, 269 00:12:35,283 --> 00:12:38,584 especially refugees seeking help at our borders, 270 00:12:38,608 --> 00:12:41,997 but including economic migrants and climate refugees. 271 00:12:42,719 --> 00:12:45,501 We need to demand that refugees get a fair shot 272 00:12:45,525 --> 00:12:47,680 at seeking protection in our countries 273 00:12:47,704 --> 00:12:50,076 by ensuring that they have access to council 274 00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:51,926 and by creating independent courts 275 00:12:51,950 --> 00:12:55,315 that are not subject to the political whims of the president. 276 00:12:56,069 --> 00:12:57,847 I know it's overwhelming, 277 00:12:57,871 --> 00:13:00,228 and I know this sounds cliché, but ... 278 00:13:01,267 --> 00:13:03,722 we need to call our elected representatives 279 00:13:03,746 --> 00:13:05,412 and demand these changes. 280 00:13:06,094 --> 00:13:07,674 I know you've heard this before, 281 00:13:07,698 --> 00:13:09,587 but have you made the call? 282 00:13:09,611 --> 00:13:11,746 We know these calls make a difference. 283 00:13:12,897 --> 00:13:16,635 The dystopian immigration systems being built up in first-world countries 284 00:13:16,659 --> 00:13:19,223 are a test of citizens 285 00:13:19,247 --> 00:13:22,545 to see how far you're willing to let the government go 286 00:13:22,569 --> 00:13:26,545 in taking away other people's rights when you think it won't happen to you. 287 00:13:27,427 --> 00:13:29,966 But when you let the government take people's children 288 00:13:29,990 --> 00:13:31,625 without due process 289 00:13:31,649 --> 00:13:34,831 and detain people indefinitely without access to council, 290 00:13:34,855 --> 00:13:36,522 you are failing the test. 291 00:13:37,109 --> 00:13:39,276 What's happening to immigrants now 292 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:42,934 is a preview of where we're all headed if we fail to act. 293 00:13:43,442 --> 00:13:44,610 Thank you. 294 00:13:44,634 --> 00:13:49,730 (Applause)