[Samantha Markle] It's not just me.
It's happening, all around the world,
to people.
And, these people know
that they can get away with it,
if they -- or, they think they can,
if they go hide under a VPN.
'Hey, they won't know my ISP,
if I do this through a VPN.'
So, it makes it harder
for law enforcement to get them.
So, one of the things that
twitter, and facebook,
and Instagram, and others
can do,
to help law enforcement,
and help keep their
participants safe:
biometrics.
If you get on your computer,
to sign in,
you're using face recognition.
Or, your fingerprint.
Or, your -- or your I. D.
Is that a violation
of freedom and privacy?
Hell, no.
Because they're not out --
they're out there violating others'
freedom and privacy,
to the extent of criminal acts.
Criminals are not guaranteed anonymity,
under any law.
If they're going to be out there
breaking laws,
and -- and -- committing crime,
you're --- you're not entitled
to privacy and protection under the law,
of your face, and your I. D., and your --
no, you're --
I think you have an onus,
as a mature, responsible user
of these social interfaces,
to be transparent.
You know, yeah -- I'm not out there
committing criminal acts, and
I'm going to prove it, by
letting everybody know who I am.
You know, by being transparent.
That's just how I feel.
[Staci DaSilva] So when did you start
getting harassed?
[S. Markle] So, I started getting harassed
around the time of the
royal wedding.
And, and -- the moment that
people knew
I disagreed with some things
about my sister,
such as, you know,
not inviting both sides
of the family,
and, um...
the possibility of my book
coming out.
That was another
controversial subject.
I started getting threats,
and people would send
and tweet
photographs of me
being viewed
through a high-powered scope,
behind broken glass,
with my face in targets.
You know, if that's not
obvious symbolism,
I don't know what is.
But, it was all
with the intent to
intimidate,
keep me in fear,
uh, prevent me from
releasing my book.
And you can't do that
to people.
We have freedom of speech.
And, just because
someone might not like
what I have to say,
or that I have
a book coming out,
doesn't mean that they can
engage in criminal activity,
coercion, threats, intimidation,
to prevent my exercising
my freedom of speech.
[S. DaSilva] Was this on
facebook and twitter?
[S. Markle] Mmm-hmm.
And I don't have an
Instagram account.
I started one
several years ago,
and, like I just,
I think I said "Hello?"
I never used it,
but it's got
thousands of followers.
And, it gets daunting.
Like I can't, I can't
go, and get to
every platform, and say,
"Hey, shut this down,
it's not me,"
so, there are so many
fake accounts out there,
that are out there saying
disparaging things,
and parody accounts.
Those are also attempts at
this, you know,
uh, defamation, libel, slander,
bullying. Uh --
[S. DaSilva] How often do you
hear from these trolls?
I mean, on your social media
accounts?
[S. Markle] Um, I shut it down,
so I don't see their mentions.
Because it got to the point
where they were always
mentioning me,
trying to, you know,
flag themselves,
and get attention,
and say horrible things,
and Photoshop and
create things to villainize
or criminalize me.
I just thought, you know,
"That's not real."
And, for people out there
who are bullied in cyberspace,
you know, I want -- I just --
especially young people.
I want to say,
"You really can't
give that legs."
"You can't give it breath."
"It's not real, unless
you allow it to consume you,
and you make it real."
Um, so...
you know, teenagers, who
go through this.
They don't have the resources
to leave their high schools,
or move out of their
communities,
and they are very trapped.
And it's overwhelming for them.
And, some of these trolls
have such a large presence,
creating bots, and multiple avatars,
that these teenagers feel like
they're being attacked
by hundreds of people,
when, really, they're not.
They're being attacked by a few,
who make themselves out
to be bigger.
Well, that's what bullies do.
They puff their chest.
They want to feel big.
They want to feel like
they've got a lot of power.
And, for teenagers,
it's often inescapable, and
it results in suicidal ideation,
and even suicide.
So, they need strong support systems.
Their parents, their friends.
They need counseling.
But, more than that,
they need to remember
that these people
are only real, and powerful,
if you let them be.
It's important to reach out,
and communicate,
and call them on what
they are doing,
before they become
a real problem.
[S. DaSilva] You had to leave
your home, correct?
How many times
have you had to move?
[S. Markle] Twice.
[S. DaSilva] Twice. And, from
Florida, to Virginia?
[S. Markle] I moved from Florida
to Virginia,
and then, the same thing
happened in Virginia.
They were sharing my address,
and asking me if
it sounded familiar.
Um, showing pictures of me,
behind a scope.
But, it got worse than that.
They were sharing, uh, images
of me, being seen through
our security cameras.
Or, me, outside, with
my boyfriend
helping me
get into my vehicle.
That could've only been
either planted in trees, or
seen through
our own devices.
Which let me know
that I was very hacked,
and I was being watched.
Um, they shared pictures
of my boyfriend, looking at himself
on his own cell phone.
Which let me know
that they had hacked
our devices.
And, their apps had
camera access.
And, they were mentioning
conversations that we had
in our living room,
about money,
or other things.
And they would say,
"Hey, what about that
thousand dollars?"
So, they were
acquiescing
to not only stalking,
but hacking.
For someone like me...
I'm a counselor,
I'm pretty intelligent,
you know, I think
I can handle it, and
analyze it for what it is?
But, for a teenager...
who is, you know,
going through identity crisis,
and, you know,
has a self-esteem
that is not totally
evolved, yet?
It can be terrifying.
When you know
you are being watched,
and everything that you do
is being twisted,
and used against you,
to defame you,
and to threaten.
So -- yeah, cyber-bullying
is horrible,
and I think that
the burden really needs
to be on social media
platforms.
Twitter, facebook,
Instagram. All of them.
Um, especially the new ones,
coming up.
To have strict
identification measures
in place, for its users,
to prevent this.
[S. DaSilva] So, you moved
to Polk county
about six months ago?
[S. Markle] Yeah.
[S. DaSilva] Did you
want to say
what town we are in,
right now?
Or would you want to
just keep it at Polk county?
[S. Markle] Yeah.
[S. DaSilva] Okay.
Why did you choose
Polk county?
[S. Markle] It's gorgeous.
I love the lakes,
I love, you know --
it's, uh -- it's
a little more central.
Where I was --
Well, I didn't like fire ants.
In Ocala, it seemed to be
one of those things
that was just indigenous
to the area, so.
Um, but I really...
I wanted the happy medium.
Being close to water,
as I was in
Southern California.
And here, I have it,
without the smog.
But, I have family here,
and I love the people here.
So, I'm staying.
[S. DaSilva] Okay.
And, you moved about
six months ago.
And, this summer,
you filed a complaint
with the sheriff's office.
Why did you do that?
[S. Markle] Because,
I was being
stalked and harassed.
Um, my boyfriend
got a ticket
for a tail light
on a trailer, being out.
And, it was supposed
to stay confidential.
But, the address
on that ticket
was somehow released,
because
trolls were able to comb through
courthouse computer databases.
The problem with that is,
that, you know --
yeah, some court records
are private,
but it wasn't in the news.
And, I was having my
identity and my location
protected by a real estate
company,
under the circumstances.
[S. DaSilva] Can we just
take that time code down?
Because she said the address,
and we did want to
put this interview online?
So, I don't think we want to
put the address online. Correct?
[S. Markle] Okay. Sorry.
[Man] About 14:56.
Right around there.
[S. DaSilva] Okay.
Just so, when we go back,
we can take that out, for you.
[Man] Be careful.
[S. Markle] I know, I know.
[S. DaSilva] Um, sorry.
14:56 something?
[Man] Yeah,
right around 14:56, yeah.
[S. DaSilva] Okay.
[S. Markle] Okay.
[S. DaSilva] Okay, sorry.
[S. Markle] So, so.
They were saying:
"Hey, does this number
or this street match?"
"Does this sound familiar?"
And, I, you know --
in other words, they
were taunting me,
with my address,
and my location,
letting me know
that they were out there,
sharing it.
They were also sharing, um,
screenshot admissions
of having my
Social Security number.
Then, they said, they said,
"Oh, but we guessed
your Social Security number."
Well, out of all the billions
of possible combinations?
That couldn't be possible.
So -- you know,
they were telling on themselves.
And the bottom line, here,
is that
there is very private information
that they were actively, all day,
obsessed about and combing,
to get every little detail about me.
That acquiesces to stalking.
Because uh, uh, you know,
someone who you don't know
doesn't have a right
to be looking,
to see if there is
anything about you in court,
to see what's going on
with your medical records.
To share your address.
To be direct messaging people
and asking questions about you.
Unless they are a reporter,
or they have some valid reason,
for...getting every piece of information
they can, about you,
and taunting you with it.
Like: "Hey, what about this?
And what about that?"
Well, who are you,
to ask me "What about this
and what about that?"
And, to try and spin it,
to villainize or criminalize me?
So, for -- I can see how,
for teenagers,
that's overwhelming.
[S. DaSilva] Mm-hm. Yeah.
You talked about the teenagers.
But, has the sheriff's office
been open to your complaint,
and been taking it seriously?
[S. Markle] Yeah, since we started
this whole thing.
You know, I showed them
everything,
and let them know
what was going on.
And, you know, I --
I'm really lucky,
to live in a state
that takes that seriously.
You know, the cyber-stalking
and "stand your ground" laws.
I feel really safe.
And it's nice to know
that law enforcement
is proactive about that.
You know, you can't
do that to a person.
You can't taunt them,
put them in fear,
um, intimidate them --
harass them --
and encourage others,
on a wide scale,
to engage in
targeted harassment.
It's -- nobody, nobody
deserves to live like that.
And, certainly not
for expressing freedom of speech.
Because, you're a journalist.
If you did a report, and somebody
didn't like something you had to say,
You know...it's really psychotic,
that anybody would
go to that extreme,
to suppress what you have to say,
and to make every corner of your life
public information,
twisting it in a negative way.
To put you in fear, or shame.
[S. DaSilva] And, your reaction to
the news spreading across the world
that you were the target
of the investigation for
things you have said
about your sister,
vs. what actually is happening.
[S. Markle] Well -- and I think
that's really important too,
because there is a problem
with aggregate news.
I understand that journalists
and bloggers get so busy,
and a lot of them, you know --
there is often, on one side
of, you know, the coin,
there is paid P. R.
that spins things.
But there is also
aggregate news error, that happens.
When they see fragments
of information,
they don't have a lot
of time to pop the stories out,
and they just copy them verbatim.
Maybe, with extra words,
and spin it a little bit more.
And suddenly,
the victim becomes the suspect.
Because someone didn't understand
what "being at the center
of investigation" means.
Well, it doesn't mean
I'm the suspect.
And, they didn't ask.
They didn't bother to ask.
They just assumed,
and put it in print,
that I was the suspect,
not the victim.
Shouldn't happen.
[S. DaSilva] So there, as you --
Are you afraid for your life?
Here in Polk county?
[S. Markle] Well, yeah, I have been.
And, and, you know,
if you can imagine
seeing your face
on a bulls-eye
behind broken glass,
or on a dartboard.
And, pictures of someone
like Matt Damon,
looking through a
high-powered scope,
a clip from a film,
or a GIF.
And, "You can run
but you can't hide, Samantha."
Those things are symbolic,
and they are put out there
with the intent
of putting you in fear.
Intimidating you,
preventing you from
publishing a book,
um -- which happened, too.
You know...
"We're gonna,
if you put your book out,
we're gonna download it,
and share it for free,
so nobody buys it."
Those are -- those are
intimidation, uh, tactics,
that are against the law.
On many levels.
And so, yeah,
it was scary for me.
I am in a wheelchair.
I don't need to feel like,
I am a slow moving target,
going out of my own home.
Nobody has a right
to do that to me, and
they are subject
to legal sanction.
It's just -- that's not how
a legal, you know,
high functioning society
operates.
And, those criminals need
to be made examples of.
They need to experience
specific deterrents, under the law.
And, they need to be
made out to be, you know,
examples of general deterrents.
So other would-be
cyber-bullies know,
"Hey, don't do the crime,
if you can't do the time,"
and most local
law enforcement,
local and federal
law enforcement agencies,
will come get ya.
You know, VPN or not,
there are ways to
find these offenders.
[S. DaSilva] What do you say
to critics who say,
"You spoke out. You know,
you were vocal, you wrote a book."
[S. Markle] Well --
[S. DaSilva] "You tweeted..."
[S. Markle] But, writing a book
and speaking out...
you know, my father
had two heart attacks.
I didn't agree with
my sister's treatment of the family.
That does not give
some of these unhinged people
license, or the right
to engage in criminal activity
against me.
Stalk, harass, incite violence
against me.
It's like, any of us
who have fought
for freedom of speech,
whether the issue
is gender, race, political issues,
just because you say something
doesn't give people who disagree
with you,
the right to put you in fear
and suppress your opinion,
by threatening you
when you do.
And that, you know --
I think that's what
we really need to make a precedent.
We're not tolerating this
any more.
We all have to 'agree to disagree'
under the law,
because if you take it
beyond those legal boundaries,
and you engage in
criminal activity, intent,
you know, um --
intimidation, and harassment,
um, with the intent
to put someone in fear,
if they speak?
It's against the law.
[S. DaSilva] Do you have any regrets
for anything that has happened,
since, you said,
around the royal wedding?
[S. Markle] Um...
the only regret...
no, I don't have regrets.
Because I was being honest.
And I've always said,
"You shouldn't regret
telling the truth."
And, when you tell the truth,
you know --
yeah, I don't think
the whistle blower is the problem.
But, if you do it
from a heartfelt place,
and it's about family,
and it's about
something you care about,
when you tell the truth,
the person on the
receiving end,
or who you are
telling the truth about,
has the opportunity,
but, I believe also,
responsibility,
to say,
"Hey. Let me hear what
you have to say.
Let's communicate.
Let's have a meeting
of the minds,
and make things better.
Let's do what's right, here."
And, the only way
the right thing can happen
is if people
talk about it.
Silence, as
the status quo,
accomplishes nothing.
So, you know,
where people were afraid
to speak,
because of this high prestige
issue, um...
it's wrong.
Because there's a real
family issue there.
The public got involved.
They took it too far,
without saying,
"Hey, they are family.
They can speak out
if they want to.
It's not really
our business."
But, they had their
own agendas.
So, you can't suppress
freedom of speech.
Or, none of us
would be here,
and you wouldn't have
a journalism job.
[S. DaSilva] Obviously, I think
there are similarities, here.
Between what you are saying,
and what
your sister is saying,
and her husband.
[S. Markle] Right.
[S. DaSilva] About how
they've been treated,
[S. Markle] Exactly.
[S. DaSilva] In the media, with
false reports, online harassment,
and trolling.
How do you feel --
do you have compassion
for them, in that way?
[S. Markle] I do, and I've also
learned, through this,
that you know, in terms of
aggregate news,
at one point,
they were seeing stories,
probably reacting to
what they thought we said,
or what they thought
we were doing.
We were --
it was very reciprocal.
We were reacting.
But, the bottom line is,
there was so much
propaganda out there,
that none of us really knew
where the truth was.
And similarly,
with the bullying.
You know, the people
that disagree with her
have bullied her,
to threatening extremes.
They bullied Kate and William.
They've bullied me.
But they have --
the difference is,
they have the money
and the social, um,
or the financial resources,
to protect themselves against that.
A normal person,
like me and my dad,
you know, our family --
we don't.
[S. DaSilva] Mm-hm.
[S. Markle] We just got
caught in the middle of it.
But, nonetheless,
we had the right
to speak our feelings.
[S. DaSilva] There are people,
I'm sure,
I will get tweets, facebook posts,
whatever, saying
you even doing this interview
is you still trying to get publicity
off your sister.
Why are you
speaking out today?
[S. Markle] I am speaking out today
because
there has been this really, uh,
interesting phenomena, of
...people have always
demanded their freedom of speech.
They speak out against
the President.
They speak out against,
you know,
whatever the issue is.
Or, the celebrity.
And, nobody says,
"You just want attention."
They're just out there,
exercising their
freedom of speech.
But because of this
royal situation,
suddenly, it's all about,
"Oh, you must
want attention."
Well, I worked in
broadcasting
for a long time.
I am fifty-four.
I don't need attention.
It, it, it was a family issue,
it was heartfelt.
I was concerned with
my father dying,
without closure.
And, and,
in our communities,
because there was no
invitation to the wedding,
it became public.
And the assumption was,
"Oh, you must not
be worthy,
since you weren't invited."
So, it's not like
It was a wedding in Ohio.
And, we wanted attention:
"Oh, why didn't
we get invited."
It's because
all of our peers in the world
were suddenly, you know,
putting us under
a microscope,
"Why didn't you get invited?"
And it was some sort of
character indictment.
The implication that,
"Oh, you must not
be worthy."
And then,
aggregate news
started spinning assumptions:
about the book,
about family members.
And it got out of control.
So, um. Do I want attention?
No.
What I really wanted
out of all of this,
was my sister to realize,
"Hey. I got caught up
in a whirlwind.
What I did to my dad
was wrong.
We're all bigger people.
Let's evolve,
and do the right thing."
And it takes
just as much time
to do the right thing,
as it does to ignore it.
And, um,
I'd like to see him
be able to communicate with her,
before he passes away.
[S. DaSilva] That was going to be
my next question.
What do you hope
for your relationship with Meghan,
and your father's
relationship with her?
For her to reach out?
[S. Markle] At some point,
when she is ready.
But, you know, with me.
But, with my father,
'at some point'
may be too late.
So, you know --
our repeated efforts
to extend an olive branch...
I would assume, you know
when interacting with a, quote,
"humanitarian,"
would be met with
a very humble, um,
acceptance, and yeah,
"Let's look at this.
Let's make this better."
And, that's all
I was trying to say.
And, if that's bashing,
wow.
Then, so, sue me.
[S. DaSilva] There were
some bashing tweets.
[S. Markle] But that's, you know --
'Bashing?' Well...
I think a lot of the media
labeled it as bashing,
like, if I did
the thing I said about
Harry at the birthday,
"While you're mac-ing down
on your birthday cake,
don't forget to wish Dad
a Happy Birthday."
Is that bashing,
or is it witty?
The problem --
[S. DaSilva] I think
you called him a wuss.
[S. Markle] Yeah. Take your
pants back. Be a man.
Because,
the whole family
was being ghosted,
and I felt like,
"Hey. You know,
you're a man, too.
You're letting my father suffer."
And, there was no real invitation.
Uh...so, I felt like,
somebody has to step up,
and do the right thing,
and say something.
I worked in broadcasting.
I'm a counselor.
I believe in communication.
And, nobody was saying anything.
And the problem with tweets, though,
is that you can't hear
tone of voice.
So, while I thought
I was saying something
maybe cynical, maybe witty,
people couldn't hear it.
They were interpreting it
through their own life lenses.
Maybe they were angry.
Maybe they've got a
negative lens
over everything
in their lives.
And, then,
they were reacting to it
from their own
personal perspectives.
Which does not
always coincide with
the sender intent.
So, I think that's
something really important
about social media, too.
And because
there can be those crossed wires,
and they can be
emotionally heated,
twitter and facebook
and Instagram
have more of
an obligation
to...not moderate that,
but, to keep it safe,
when people's intrepretations
carry it to such heated levels,
that it crosses over
into criminal activity.
That, you know, people are --
[S. DaSilva] People say things
on social media
they would never say
to someone's face.
[S. Markle] Right! Because
the avatar, you know, is a shield.
It's a false source
of empowerment.
You know, in the animal kingdom,
they puff their chest,
to look bigger than they are.
Well, they can do that
on social media.
Behind an avatar.
"Ooh, big words,
on an avatar."
"I've got a flower out there,
or a kitty cat.
But I'm going to say
big, disgusting, terrifying things,"
and, you know...
It's...not good.
[S. DaSilva] How is
your dad doing?
[S. Markle] He's doing okay.
He's doing better. He's, um...
feeling, you know...
I think, more empowered.
This has been...
a growth opportunity
for all of us.
But, I think
more than anything,
it's really interesting
that the royals,
Meg and Harry,
and, you know,
this side of the fence,
the Markles,
we are all
kind of saying the same thing.
It is that you can have,
especially with the family,
if there is an issue out there,
or a social issue,
you can disagree,
but you don't take it
to the level of incredible,
terrorizing, taunting,
intimidation,
threats.
That's where we cap it.
[S. DaSilva] Your father doesn't live
in Polk county as well, does he?
[S. Markle] Hmm-mm.
[S. DaSilva] Okay.
Um...I read some articles...
I think you had said
that you
raised Meghan
until she was twelve,
pretty much? Or?
[S. Markle] See, here is where
I am gonna talk --
[S. DaSilva] I'm gonna
fact-check that.
[S. Markle] Here's where
I am gonna
talk about aggregate news, see.
[S. DaSilva] Yeah.
[S. Markle] Even a journalist
like you,
and a lot of
other journalists,
and talk show hostesses,
believe that.
And I was sitting here, going,
"Wow. Where did you hear that?"
[S. DaSilva] Mm-hmm.
[S. Markle] Because I had said
in one interview,
"I was integral in her life,
until about twelve."
I always lived about
ten minutes away,
she was born
in our household,
my dad and Doria divorced
when she was about six.
Still, it was during the week,
weekends, intermingling,
you know, when
I wasn't working.
And life was very normal.
For families with big sisters,
and you know, younger kids.
But some journalists
took it upon themselves
to say:
"She said she raised her."
I never said I raised her.
I said "I was integral in her life,
until about twelve."
And then, even interacting
all the way up through Northwestern.
And when she was in Buenos Aires.
And, even when...
So, to set the record straight,
the last time I saw her was 2008.
The last time I spoke to her
on the phone was 2015, December,
going on January, 2016.
The last week of December.
So, no, it's not like --
and people said,
"Oh, she hasn't spoken -- "
[Samantha Markle]
No soy la única.
Es algo que afecta a todo el mundo.
Esos indiividuos saben
que no pagarán por su delito,
o por lo menos,
es lo que creen.
Se esconden detrás
de una VPN.
'Oye, no van a ver mi ISP,
si hago esto por VPN.'
AsÃ, les resulta más difisil
caer bajo el peso de la ley.
Entonces, algo que Twitter, Facebook,
Instagram y los demás pueden hacer,
para que se cumpla la ley,
y proteger a sus usuarios es:
La biometrÃa.
Para registrarse en su computadora,
tiene que usar reconocimiento de rostros,
su huella,
su I. D. o su documento de identidad.
¿Es eso una violación de la
libertad individual o de la privacidad?
¡Claro que no!
Por que ellos están violando
la libertad y la privacidad ajena
como vulgares criminales.
La ley no protege la identidad
de los criminales.
Si ellos están violando la ley,
están bajo cargos criminales,
la ley no puece proteger su privacidad.
su identidad.
Su rostro, su I. D., su...
nada de eso...
Pienso que tienen una responsablidad,
como usuarios responsables
de las redes sociales,
de ser transparentes.
Normalmente, como no estoy
violando la ley,
voy a dejar que todos sepan
quien soy yo,
voy a ser transparente.
Es lo que pienso.
[Staci DaSilva]
¿Cuando empezaron a acosarle?
[S. Markle] El acoso empezó
durante la época de la boda real,
y cuando la gente supo que
yo estaba en desacuerdo con mi hermana
en algunos detalles,
como usted lo sabe,
por que no invitó a ningún
miembro de ambas familias,
y, hmm...
voy a publicar un libro.
Era otro tema polémico.
Empecé a recibir amenazas,
y algunos individuos me postearon tuits
con mis fotos captadas
por cámaras de alta potencia,
detrás de cristales rotos,
con mi cara como blanco.
Si eso no se considera
como una violación,
no sé que es.
HacÃan todo eso para
intimidarme, aterrarme
hmm, para obstaculizar
la publicación de mi libro.
Eso no se hace.
Tenemos libertad de expresión.
Solo por que
tengo una opinión diferente,
o por que voy a publicar un libro,
no le da el derecho a nadie
a realizar actividades delictivas como:
la coerción, la amenaza
o la intimidación
para violar mi
libertad de expresión.
[S. DaSilva]
¿Fue por Facebook y Twitter?
[S. Markle] Hmm-hmm.
No tengo una cuenta
en Instagram.
Muchos años atrás, tenÃa una.
y creo que
solo dije: "¡Hola!"
Nunca la usé,
Pero, tiene miles
de seguidores.
Y eso abruma.
Es decir, no puedo,
no puedo acceder a
cada cuenta, y decir:
"Cancelen esta cuenta,
no me pertenece,"
y hay tantas cuentas falsas
que están propagando
comentarios despectivos,
tantas cuentas
que difunden burlas.
Estas cuentas recurren a la
hm, difamación, calumnia,
maledicencia, intimidación. Hm,
[S. DaSilva] ¿Con qué frecuencia
sufre estos ataques?
Digo, ¿en su cuenta,
en la red social?
[S. Markle] Um, cierro la sesión,
no leo los mensajes.
Por que llegaron al punto
donde siempre hablaban de mÃ.
Estaban tratando de
lucirse, para atraer la atención,
decÃan cosas horribles sobre mi,
y crearon imagenes que
me asocian a criminales.
Sabe, pensé:
"Eso es mentira."
Cuando pienso en la gente
que están acosando por Internet,
solo quiero, sabe,
especialmente los jóvenes.
Quiero decirlos:
"Verdaderamente,
no debes permitirlo."
"No debes alimentarlo."
"No es algo real,
a menos que
lo permites agotarte,
asÃ, le das vida."
Hm, entonces...
sabe, los adolescentes,
que son victimas,
no tienen los medios
para dejar su escuela,
o mudarse a otra comunidad
son como prisioneros.
Eso los agota.
Algunos de estos ataques
son muy crueles,
crean programas robot, avatars
para que estos adolescentes creen
que fueron atacados
por miles de personas,
aunque es mentira.
Son pocos los que los atacan,
y se creen mas fuertes.
SÃ, asà son los matones.
Ellos hinchan su pecho.
Quieren sentirse fuerte.
Quieren sentir que
tienen mucho poder.
Para los adolescentes,
a menudo, son acosados,
y por eso, piensan en matarse,
e incuso se se matan.
Asi que, necesitan apoyo.
El apoyo de sus padres y amigos,
Necesitan consejo.
Pero, más que eso,
necesitan tener presente
que sus matones
son reales y poderosos,
solo si se los permiten.
Es importante hablar
y expresarse,
dejarles saber
que es un abuso,
antes de que sea
demasiado tarde.
[S. DaSilva] ¿Usted tuvo que
trasladarse, verdad?
¿Cuántas veces
tuvo que trasladarse?
[S. Markle]
Dos veces.
[S. DaSilva] Dos veces.
Desde Florida a Virginia?
[S. Markle]
SÃ, desde Florida a Virginia,
y lo mismo occurrió
en Virginia.
Revelaron mi dirección,
y me preguntaron
si eso sonaba familiar.
Mostraron fotos mÃas
desde una cámara.
Pero, la cosa se empeoró.
Estaban compartiendo mis fotos,
tomadas a través de
nuestras cámaras de seguridad.
O fotos mÃas
con mi novio
ayudándome a subir
en mi vehÃculo.
Quizá, fijaron sus cámaras
en los árboles
o usaron nuestros
aparatos electrónicos.
Lo que me confirmó
que me piratearon,
me estaban vigilando.
Hm, compartieron fotos
de mi novio mirandose
en su teléfono celular.
Eso me dejó ver que
piratearon nuestros
aparatos electrónicos.
Y sus aplicaciones pueden
controlar cámaras.
Además, estaban mencionando
conversaciones que tuvimos
en nuestro salón,
acerca del dinero,
u otros asuntos.
DecÃan cosas como:
"Oye, ¿que pasó con
los mil dólares?"
Nos estaban
confirmando que
no solo nos estaban
acosando,
nos estaban pirateando.
Para una gente como yo,
soy una consejera,
bastante inteligente,
creo que puedo
manejarlo
y verlo por lo que es.
Pero, para un adolescente...
ve, que esta pasando por
una crisis de identidad,
sabe como es,
su autoestima
no está completamente
desarrollada.
Puede ser escalofriante.
Cuando uno sabe que
lo están mirando,
y todo lo que hace
está malinterpretado,
y lo usan para
dañar su reputación,
y para amenazar a uno.
SÃ, la ciberintimidación
es horrible,
y pienso que la culpa
hay que echarla sobre
las redes sociales.
Twitter, Facebook,
Instagram. Toditas.
Hay que echar un ojo a
las nuevas redes sociales.
Tienen que tener medios
estrictos de identificación
para que sus usuarios
no intimiden a nadie.
[S. DaSilva] Asà que,
¿ya tiene como
seis meses aquÃ?
[S. Markle] SÃ.
[S. DaSilva] ¿Quiere dar
informar
en que ciudad vive ahora?
¿O solo quiere decir
Polk County?
[S. Markle] SÃ.
[S. DaSilva] Bien.
¿Por qué eligió
Polk County?
[S. Markle] Es maravilloso.
Me gustan los lagos,
me gusta,
es un lugar
más céntrico.
Donde vivÃa, habÃa
muchas hormigas rojas.
En Ocala, parece
que es una
cosa tÃpica de la zona.
Hm, lo que
realmente querÃa
era el justo medio.
Estar cerca del agua,
como vivÃa en
el sur de California.
Aquà lo tengo,
sin la contaminación.
Pero, tengo familias aquÃ,
y la gente me encanta.
Asà que, me quedo.
[S. DaSilva] Bien.
Vino acá seis meses atrás.
Y este verano,
sometió una queja
a la oficinal del alguacil.
¿Por que hizo esto?
[S. Markle] Porque,
me acecharon
y me acosaron.
Hm, le dieron una multa
a mi novio
porque un faro trasero
de un camión no funcionaba.
Algo que deberÃan
mantener confidencial.
Pero, de alguna forma,
revelaron la dirección
que estaba en esta multa
porque los piratas informáticos
accedieron a la computadora
del tribunal.
El problema es que,
como lo sabe...
algunos registros judiciales
son confidenciales,
no aparecieron en las noticias.
Mi identidad y mi dirección
fueron protegidas
por una compañÃa inmobiliaria
en este caso.
[S. DaSilva] ¿Podemos omitir
el Time code?
Por que ella dio la dirección,
y queremos poner
esta entrevista en Internet.
No creo que vamos a publicar
la dirección, ¿verdad?
[S. Markle] Correcto.
Lo siento.
[Señor] Cerca de 14:56.
Por allÃ.
[S. DaSilva] Bien.
AsÃ, cuando regresemos,
podemos sacarlo de la grabación.
[Señor] Tenga cuidado.
[S. Markle]
Yo sé.
[S. DaSilva] Lo siento.
¿14:56?
[Señor]
SÃ, 14:56.
[S. DaSilva] Bien.
[S. Markle] Bien.
[S. DaSilva] Lo siento.
[S. Markle] ¿Que pasó?
Estaban diciendo:
"Oye, es el número
y la calle exacta?"
"¿Reconoce eso?"
Y yo, sabe,
en otras palabras,
se burlaron de mÃ,
usando mi dirección,
querÃan informarme
que la iban a compartir.
Además, estaban compartiendo
fotos de mi
número de seguridad social
y decÃan:
"Oye, adivinamos su
número de seguridad social."
¿Con mil millones
de combinaciones posible?
Es imposible.
Sabe, estaban revelando
quienes eran.
En conclusión,
cada dÃa, querÃan
informaciones y detalles,
buscaban cada detalle sobre mÃ.
Eso se llama espionaje.
Porque hm, una gente
que no conoce
no tiene el derecho
de ojear
tu registro judicial,
tu historial médico,
y revelar tu dirección.
Nadie escribe pidiendo
datos de otro,
sin ser periodista
o sin razones válidas,
compilando todo detalle
posible de uno,
y usarlo para burlarse do uno.
Diciendo: "¿Y eso?
¿y aquello?"
Quien cree que es
para pedirme: "¿Y eso,
y aquello?"
Además, trata de
falsificar todo
para presentarme
como un criminal.
Por eso,
para los jóvenes,
es demasiado.
[S. DaSilva] Bien.
Mencionó a los jóvenes.
¿Y su querella a la oficina
del alguacil,
la tomaron en serio?
[S. Markle] SÃ, desde el principio
de todo.
Sabe, los presenté
todos los hechos
y los enteré de todo
lo que habÃa.
Sabe, yo...
Tengo mucha suerte,
vivo en un estado
donde se cumple la ley.
Sabe, "ciberacecho"
y "defensa personal".
Me siento muy protegida.
Es bueno ver que
hay medidas legales
que nos protegen.
Sabe, nadie merece eso.
No se debe acosar
o aterrar a nadie,
o amenazarlo,
atormentarlo,
y animar a otros,
de forma colectiva,
a atormentar
a alguien.
Nadie, nadie,
merece vivir asÃ.
Y claro, no por
su libertad de expresión.
Por que es periodista.
Si hace un reportaje,
y le cae mal a uno,
SerÃa una locura si alguien
llegara al extremo,
queriendo acallar todo,
de hacer público
todo detalle de su vida,
malinterpretando todo.
Para intimidarlo o avergonzarlo.
[S. DaSilva] ¿Cual fue su respuesta
a las noticias internacionales
que serÃa objeto de investigación
por las cosas que dijo
acerca de su hermana
y lo que está
sucediendo realmente.
[S. Markle] Pienso que es
muy inportante,
ya que hay problema
con las noticias agregadas.
Sé que los reporteros,
los blogueros, trabajan mucho,
y muchos de ellos, sabe...
a menudo, están buscando
sus ganancias,
la gente paga por
una nota de prensa.
Hay errores en las
noticias agregadas.
Cuando ven un fragmento
de información,
por falta de tiempo,
no buscan el contexto,
solo copian la información,
con otros términos,
la modifican un poco.
De repente, la vÃctima
es culpable.
Por que alguien no entendió
la expresión "estar bajo
investigación".
Eso no quiere decir
estoy bajo sospecha.
No preguntaron nada.
No querÃan preguntar.
Se lo creyeron,
lo imprimieron,
que yo era lao sospechosa,
no la vÃctima.
No deberÃan hacerlo.
[S. DaSilva] Asà que,
¿teme por su vida?
¿Aquà en Polk county?
[S. Markle] Bueno,
sÃ, me ha pasado.
Y, sabe,
si puede imaginar
su cara en el
tiro al blanco
detrás de cristales rotos,
o en una diana.
Las fotos de alguien
como Matt Damon,
mirándo por unos
poderosos binoculares,
un clip de pelÃcula,
o una GIF, que dice:
"Corra, pero no hay
escondite, Samantha."
Son señales que le ponen
para que tenga miedo.
Para intimidarte,
impidiendo la publicación
de un libro,
ya ha pasado tambien. Sabe...
"Si publica su libro,
vamos a...
vamos a descargarlo,
y publicarlo gratis,
para que nadie lo compre."
Son tácticas de intimidación,
y están prohibidas por la ley.
En todos los niveles.
Asà que, sÃ,
tenÃa miedo.
Estoy en una silla de ruedas.
No me gusta sentirme
como un blanco muy lento
saliendo de mi hogar.
Nadie tiene el derecho
de hacerme eso,
puede estar sujeto a
sanción legal.
Por que, una sociedad
que se rige por la ley
y que funciona correctamente,
no es asÃ.
Deben dar el ejemplo
con estos criminales.
La ley tiene que limitar
sus actividades.
Estas leyes tienen que
jugar un papel
de advertencias.
AsÃ, los acosadores potenciales sabrán:
"Evite el delito,
y será libre de castigo,"
y las fuerzas del orden local,
fuerzas del orden local
y federales,
llegarán por usted.
Sabe, que usen VPN o no,
hay maneras de
localizar estos criminales.
[S. DaSilva] Los crÃticos dicen:
"Se pronunció. Se expresó,
tiene un libro"
[S. Markle] Bueno --
[S. DaSilva] "Usó Tweeter..."
[S. Markle] Usé un libro
para expresarme...
Papà tuvo dos infartos.
Me dolió como mi hermana
vio a la familia.
Eso no le otorga
a esa gente desequilibrada
el derecho
de emprender acciones ilegales
contra mÃ.
Acechan, acosan,
incitan a la violencia.
Por ejemplo, cualquiera
que está luchando
por la libertad de expresión,
cual sea su sexo,
raza, posición polÃtica,
el hecho de que ha dicho algo
no le da a los que
no comparten su opinión
el derecho de intimidarte
o de callarte
con amenazas.
Por eso mismo,
pienso que es preciso
crear un precedente.
No queremos seguir
tolerando eso.
La ley protege la opinión
de cada persona,
si uno traspasa
estos lÃmites legales
y comete algunos delitos,
como la intimidación,
o el acoso,
para aterrar a alguien,
porque dijo la verdad.
Es ilegal.
[S. DaSilva] ¿Se arrepiente
de algo que haya dicho
acerca de la Boda real?
[S. Markle] Hm...
lo único que lamento...
no tengo nada
de que lamentarme.
Por que estuve siendo honrada.
Siempre digo:
"No se lamente
por haber dicho la verdad."
Y cuando dice la verdad, sabe...
Los que se oponen
no son un problema.
Pero, si lo hace sinceramente,
y tiene que ver con la familia,
con algo que es
muy importante para usted,
cuando dices la verdad,
la persona que está escuchando,
o la persona de quién
está hablando,
tiene la posibilidad,
creo que también
tiene la responsabilidad,
de decir:
"Un momento. Déjeme oir
lo que dice."
¡Que hablemos!
Lleguemos a un acuerdo
de ideas
y mejoremos las cosas.
Hagamos lo que es correcto."
La única manera
de mejorar las cosas
es por la communicación.
Si no decimos nada,
no logramos nada.
Entonces, como sabe,
algunas personas no
se expresan,
por temor
a la alta sociedad...
eso está mal.
Hay un serio
problema en mi familia.
El público se involucró.
Exageraron todo, incluso sin decir:
"Son de la misma familia.
Pueden hablarse libremente.
Francamente,
no es nuestro asunto."
Pero tenÃan
su propio plan.
No pueden sofocar
la libertad de expresión.
Si pudieran,
no estuvieramos aquÃ,
y no serÃa periodista.
[S. DaSilva] Claro que hay
hay muchas similitudes,
entre lo que usted dice
y lo que dicen su hermana
y su esposo.
[S. Markle] SÃ.
[S. DaSilva] Como los trató la gente.
[S. Markle] Correcto.
[S. DaSilva] En la prensa,
falsos reportajes,
ciberacoso, insultos.
¿Cómo se siente...
merecen compasión?
[S. Markle] Sabe, todo eso me enseñó
algo de la
recopilación de noticias,
al principio,
quizá solo vieron historias,
y su reacción se basó
en suposiciones,
en lo que creyeron que
habÃa pasado.
Nosotros...
Tuvimos la misma reacción.
Todos reaccionamos.
Pero, en realidad,
hubo tantas propagandas
que nadie supo
que pasó realmente.
Eso mismo occurrió
con el acoso.
Los que no estabán
de acuerdo con ella
la acosaron,
con grandes amenazas.
Hostigaron a Kate y William.
Me hostigaron a mÃ.
Pero, en su caso,
tienen contactos y
recursos económicos,
o lo medios para protegerse.
Pero, una gente normal,
como yo y mi padre,
entiende, mi familia,
no tenemos.
[S. DaSilva] Ya veo.
[S. Markle] No hay salida.
Pero, tenemos el derecho
de expresar
nuestros sentimientos.
[S. DaSilva] Estoy segura
que hay gente que
van a mandar mensajes,
por Facebook o Tweeter:
Hasta en una entrevista,
està usando a su hermana
para obtener publicidad.
¿Por qué està hablando hoy?
[S. Markle] Hoy, estoy
hablando porque
algo muy impresionante
está sucediendo,
la gente sigue defendiendo
su libertad de expresión.
Denuncian abiertamente
al presidente.
Se pronuncian en contra de...
cualquier problema.
O en contra de los famosos
Nadie opina:
"Quieren llamar la atención."
Están allà solo para
ejercer su
libertad de expresión.
Pero, como la
realeza está envuelto,
de repente, la gente dice:
"O! Quiere
llamar la atención."
Trabajé en la prensa
por años.
Tengo 54 años.
No necesito publicidad.
Es mi familiar.
Fui sincera.
TemÃa por
la vida de mi padre,
no tenÃa apoyo.
En nuestra comunidad,
el hecho de que
no fuimos invitados a la boda
generó una mala publicidad.
La gente decÃa:
"Quizá, no son dignos.
Por eso, no los invitaron."
No celebraron esta boda
en Ohio,
y quisimos
llamar la atención:
"O, ¿por qué
no nos invitaron?"
Fue porque todos
nuestros conocidos en el mundo,
de repente, sabe,
nos pusieron
bajo un microscopio:
"¿Por qué no los invitaron?"
Fue como una acusación.
Dio la impresión:
"Quizá, no son dignos."
Y las noticias agregadas
estabán alimentando sospechas,
acerca del libro,
de los miembros de la familia.
Quedó fuera de control.
Ve... ¿Necesito publicidad?
No.
En realidad, querÃa
que mi hermana se diera cuenta:
"¡Ay Dios! Me metà en problemas."
Lo que hice a mi padre
estuvo mal.
Todos hemos crecido.
Tengo que cambiar
mi forma de actuar."
TomarÃa la misma
cantidad de tiempo
tanto para hacer lo correcto,
como para dejar de hacerlo.
Y, hm...
me gustarÃa ver mi padre
en paz con ella,
antes de fallecer.
[S. DaSilva] Iba a
preguntar:
¿Qué tipo de relación espera
tener con Meghan,
y qué espera de ella y
de su padre?
¿Que se comunique
con él?
[S. Markle] SÃ, cuando
esté lista para eso.
Sabe, en cuanto a mÃ.
Pero, en cuanto a mi padre,
'llegará el momento'
en que será demasiado tarde.
Entonces, como lo sabe,
hicimos todo para
dar una ofrenda de paz...
Supongo como trataba
con, como dicen,
un "humanitario",
encontrarÃa con
alguien muy humilte,
muy acogedor,
diciéndomo:
"Hablemos un poco.
Arreglemos los asuntos."
Fue todo lo que
querÃa decir.
Si eso fue una paliza...
¡Ay Dios!
¡Que me demanden!
[S. DaSilva] HabÃa
mensajes agresivos.
[S. Markle] Pero eso es --
'paliza'? Bueno...
En los media
lo llaman paliza,
mire el comentario
que hice acerca de
Harry en el cumpleaños:
"Mientras que vaya gozando
en su cumpleaños,
no olvide desearle a papá
feliz cumpleaños."
¿Fue un ataque o
fue gracioso?
Pero,
[S. DaSilva] pienso que
lo llamó cabrón.
[S. Markle] SÃ. Compórtese
como hombre.
Porque,
estabán criticando
toda la familia,
sentà como:
"Oye. Sabe,
como hombre,
¿no ve la pena de mi padre?"
No habÃa ninguna invitación formal.
Hm..., pensé que
alguien tiene que hacer algo,
hacer lo correcto,
y decir algo.
Trabajé en la communicación.
Soy una consejera.
Creo en la communicación.
Nadie estabá diciendo nada.
El problema con los tuits,
es que no puede oir
el tono de la voz.
Entonces, pensé que
estabá expresando algo
como una duda, un chiste,
la gente no podÃa oir nada.
Cada quien tenÃa
su interpretación.
Quizá estabán enojados.
Quizá, se basaron
en cosas negativas
en sus propias
experiencias.
Asà que, sus respuestas
se basaron en sus
opiniones personales.
Lo que no siempre
coincidÃa con
la intención del mensajero.
Pienso que es algo que
hay que considerar en
en las redes sociales también.
Y con estas confusiones,
a veces, cargadas de emociones,
Twitter, Facebook e Instagram
tienen la obligación moral
de, no solo suavizar,
sino de proteger a la gente,
cuando las opiniones personales
causan tantos problemas,
que no traspasen
los lÃmites legales.
Sabe, la gente...
[S. DaSilva] La gente,
en las redes sociales,
dice cosas que nunca
dirÃan de frente.
[S. Markle] ¡Correcto! Por que
el avatar es una máscara.
Es una falsa
sensasión de poder.
Es como hacen los animales,
hinchan sus pechos
para parecer más grande.
SÃ, eso pasa
en las redes sociales.
Detrás de un avatar.
"O, hablan mucho,
detrás de un avatar."
"En mi perfil se ve una flor,
o un gatito.
Pero, diré cosas
que causan terror,"
y, sabe...
está mal.
[S. DaSilva] ¿Como está su padre?
[S. Markle] Está bien.
Está mejorando. Él se...
siento, sabe...
pienso, con más fuerza.
Esta situación
nos dio a todos
la oportunidad de crecer.
Más que todo,
pienso que
es muy interesante
para la realeza,
Meg y Harry,
y como sabe,
de nuestra parte también
Los Markles,
todos estamos
diciendo lo mismo.
Es normal que,
especialmente en la familia,
si hay un desacuerdo,
o una injusticia social,
puede que no esté de acuerdo,
pero no llegue
al punto de estar
aterrorizando,
intimidando, acosando,
amenazando.
Hay que ponerle lÃmite a eso.
[S. DaSilva] Su padre vive
en Polk county, ¿S�
[S. Markle] Hmm-mm.
[S. DaSilva] Bien.
Hm... Leà algunos artÃculos...
Creo que habÃa dicho que
crió a Meghan
hasta sus 12 años,
más o menos.
[S. Markle] Mire, con eso
tengo que hablar.
[S. DaSilva] Voy a
averiguar eso.
[S. Markle] Hablemos
de recopilación
de noticias.
[S. DaSilva] Eso.
[S. Markle] Hasta reportero
como usted
y muchos otros
reporteros,
y los animadores
de debates lo creen.
Estaba sentada aquÃ, diciendo:
"Carramba, ¿donde sacó eso?"
[S. DaSilva] Hm-hmm.
[S. Markle] Por que dije
en una entrevista:
"Tuve una influencia
en ella hasta los 12."
Siempre vivÃ
a 10 minutos de ella,
nació en nuestro hogar,
Papà y Doria se divorciaron,
y tenÃa séis.
Era durante la semana,
fines de semana,
sabe, cuando yo no
tenÃa trabajo.
Era una vida sencilla.
Una familia con
hermanas mayores y niños.
Pero, algunos reporteros
decidieron
decir:
"Dijo que la crió."
Nunca dije que la crié.
Dije: "Tuve una influencia
en ella hasta los 12."
Y hasta nos communicamos
en el noroeste.
Fue a Buenos Aires.
Hasta allÃ...
Para que todo sea claro,
la última vez que la và fue en 2008.
Última llamada: diciembre 2015,
para enero 2016.
Última semana de diciembre.
Ve, no fue como
la gente decÃa:
"O, ella no dijo nada..."
[Samantha Markle]
Il y en a d'autres.
Non solo a me.
Sta succedendo a persone in tutto il mondo
E questa persone sanno che non subiranno
nessuna conseguenza
Se loro- se pensano di poterlo fare
nascondendosi con un VPN.
"Ehi, non sapranno il mio ISP,
se utilizzo un VPN".
Quindi, diventa più difficile catturarli,
per la polizia.
Quindi, la cosa che Twitter, e
Facebook,
e Instagram, e altri, possono fare
per aiutare la polizia,
e aiutare i loro partecipanti a
essere al sicuro:
è la biometrica.
Se usi il tuo computer per registrarti.
stai utilizzando il riconoscimento
facciale.
O, la tua impronta digitale.
O il tuo- o il tuo I.D.
Questa è una violazione della libertà ,
e privacy?
Diavolo, no.
Perchè non sono li a--
non sono li a violare la libertà ,
e la privacy di altri, secondo la legge.
Ai criminali non è garantita l'anonimità ,
secondo la legge.
Se sono lì fuori a violare la legge,
e--e-- commetendo crimini,
non--- non ti è garantita nessuna
privacy o tutela di fronte alla legge,
della tua faccia, del tuo ID, and il tuo--
no, sei--
Penso che tu abbia la responsabilità ,
essendo un user di questi social,
maturo e responsabile
di essere transparente.
Sai, io non sono in giro a commettere
crimini, e
lo proverò, lasciando che tutti conoscano
chi io sia.
Sai, per essere transparente.
E' quello che penso.
Quando hanno iniziato a tormentarti?
Mi sono arrivate le prime intimidazioni
nel periodo del matrimonio reale.
E, e--da quando la gente ha saputo
Ero in disaccordo su alcune cose su
mia sorella,
come, per esempio
non aver invitato entrambe le parti
della famiglia,
e, um...
la possibilità dell'uscita del mio libro.
Quello era un altro tema controverso.
Sono iniziate ad arrivarmi intimidazioni,
e la gente mi mandava, twittava
foto di me, vista
attraverso un elettroscopio
ad alta potenza,
dietro del vetro rotto,
con la mia faccia usata come
bersaglio.
Sai, se questo non è ovvio simbolismo,
non so cosa lo è.
Ma, è stato tutto fatto con
l'intento
di intimidare, di farmi
provare paura,
di prevenire l'uscita del mio libro.
Non puoi fare una cosa del genere
alla gente.
Abbiamo lla libertà di parola.
E, solo perchè
a qualcuno non piace quello
che ho da dire,
o che ho un libro in uscita,
non vuol dire che puoi
commettere un reato,
coercizione, minaccie, intimidazioni,
di prevenire il mio esercizio della
libertà di parola.
E' successo su Facebook o Twitter?
Mmm-hmm.
E non ho un account Instagram.
Ne ho fatto uno molti
anni fa,
e, sai,
credo di aver solo detto
"Ciao?"
Non l'ho mai usato,
ma ha migliaia di followers.
E diventa spaventoso.
Non posso, non posso andare
su ogni piattaforma,
e dire,
"Ehi, chiudilo, non sono io".
ci sono tantissimi account fake,
là fuori,
che dicono un sacco di cose denigratorie,
e account pariodistici.
Quelli sono altri tentativi a, sai,
diffamazione, calunni, ingiurie, bullismo.
Quante volte vedi questi troll?
Intendo, sui tuoi accounts social media.
Li ho chiusi, non vedo cosa dicono.
Perchè è arrivato al un punto
che continuavano a menzionarmi,
cercando di, sai,
segnalarsi, per ricevere attenzione
e dire cose orriile, e Photoshoppare e
creare cose per farmi passare
per la cattiva, o criminalizzarmi.
Ho pensato, sai,
"Questo non è reale".
E, per la gente là fuori
che è soggetta a bullismo online
sai, voglio--voglio solo
specialmente giovani.
Voglio dirvi,