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Title:
Interview with Buster Keaton
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[TERKEL:] The world of entertainment has come a long way. There are the new inventions and new devices —
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and yet the art of acting is still an eternal one. A few nights ago
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I was in the movie house in the neighbourhood seeing the film "When Comedy Was King"
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and it was recreating excerpts of some of the fantastically ingenius
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two-reelers of some of the geniuses of the past not well some of now but of the silent film.
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There was a piece of Chaplin, a piece of Langdon, and a piece of Buster Keaton who we're
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delighted to have as our guest this morning. Buster Keaton, when I think of you, aside from this film
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I saw the other night I think of you in terms of somebody's critics you speak of Keaton,
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one of the genius of a silent film. Your approach, your approach in
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somebody's film to realize the feature films you did was the man never spoke of course
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but how is it done and then there were subtitles.
[Buster Keaton] That's right -
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Or you'll know your lips moved, you, you spoke
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and the cutting room is simply run my film through your fingers down.
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Don't worry, just got your mouth open on the second syllable did 'Cut' clapping
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your subtitles explain 'What you're talking about, man, when you come back
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and pick it up just as your mouth was about to close.'
So that's the way that's -
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[TERKEL:] Do you have to say, you had to communicate the audience in only one way
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through action, through pantomime.
[BK] That's right. We eliminate a subtitle just as fast as we could
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that we could possibly tell them an action.
[Interviewer] And you once told me something about 10 years ago
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that you and Charlie Chaplin having a friendly contest, who could do the feature film
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with the least amount of subtitles.
[BK] I think Chaplin won that.
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He got that one of his pictures of something like 21 titles
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and I had 23.
[Interviewer] This is for an hour and a half film and -
[BK] Yeah.
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7 reel pictures.
When we started off with features we had only 5 reelers
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but I think around - hmm, let's see,
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about twenty-five, 7 reels
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became a standard length for all featured pictures
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[Interviewer] Thinking about -
[BK] Another thing to you to
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call attention to is the average picture use 240 titles.
That was about the average.
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[Interviewer] 240 was the average?
[BK] And the most I have ever used was 56.
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[Interviewer] 56 and one time you used 20, 23. So it get me think of
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you saying something to, like, at this theater, at this movie house
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there were young kids and couples who weren't even born, perhaps their parents were born
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at that time, laughing and howling and it gives me an impression that
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this humor is eternal, at least they seemed to have the hunger for it now that there are so little of it today
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It sounds that you're worrying about your feelings as you watch TV
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you know some of the gags are repeated, aren't they? different -
[BK] They have to -
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You can't dig the material up that fast.
I refuse to do a weekly show
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because it's the fastest way to a sanitarium and I know that
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you're absolutely out of your mind, trying to dig up. Well, I always
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try to dig up a new material and um, it is just impossible.
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[Interviewers] Back in the days of the silence
when you invent a gag, a sight gag
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had to be for each film to retrieve something fresh indifference time
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difference time yes we didn't repeat gags and we didn't steal from each other
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razor think about this film I saw the other night you were moving man
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moving man you were Buster Keaton the smile at the pancake Haus
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pancake have mascots that end with you with a moving violation of the police parade
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parade of Police dream Uganda president chasing you
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chasing you know I tried to cut through the parade nickel door so I just joined it before
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before I can stop me some anarchist up on top of a building for Obama Donna please pray but live
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Brea but let my wife went off Paul police forces after me
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Zachary it was like a dream to me please when chasing this one man
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never quite coaching now we come to your ART out of the way you move your body the Acrobat
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body acrobatics and everything where did this originate hola just doing I get measured
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miss routine there just cocks in all directions
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I just got an ordinary chase sequence chase equals how much is plan
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is Plan when the beginning and how much came out in the actual doing how much was improvise
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what is a ruler all about 50 percent
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map having your mind before you start a picture and the rest is your maker
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as you're making ideas yes come to mind
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remind me as I look at you now by Steve Nash going to see something James Agee
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AG pen Creek Road about you in his reaction article comedies greatest era that appeared in life
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life in space Frankenmuth Lincoln's American archetype
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American archetype was hunting handsome are most beautiful to do something funny improve
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improve matters by tapping it off with a deadly horizontal happy as flat and finish the phonograph
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the phonograph record when can never forget kitten wearing it standing erect the brown
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how has little boat is being launched the boat goes Grant lead on the skids and justice
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and justice Granby Street on the bottom keep never bunches elasticity of him
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UCM the water list the head of the store I can focus away
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rallys talk about is coal a boat boat what is a hat
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whatever happened at the first how to pass work well I don't have a similar
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had a similar hat on the stage before I went into pictures I want a picture
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I want to pictures was 21 years old in the spring in 1917
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new apartments in family yes when was Harry Houdini gave you the name
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give me the name of Buster I was born with a keep Nutini Medicine Show company on a 1 night stay
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on a one night stand in Kansas what you workin with a Kindle
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well my own man was the eccentric comic Panda
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soon as I can take care of myself it all on my fate he had
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fat head slap shoes on men big baggy pants
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I need to start doing guys with me a specially kicking me clean across the stage
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stater take the back of neck to throw me as I grew used to doing it new
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doing it know how to do it throws become longer the time I work
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got up to route 78 years old call the roughest sex ever
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act was ever the history of the stage movies came along you are better now as nice
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I was a veteran pictures what is the question what come up your
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you are the pro to you and humor first you're facing car seat
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the lack of the smile you son of a :-( in his house
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how to Mars what is the island that from the stage the Dead
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the does the type of comedian is a file after what I did the old is dead
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so just automatically got to let States worth more seriously I took my
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cook my work the better life cycle you are always everything you
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everything you get those with a dead ass serious tennis draw the time I went into pictures not smiling
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not smiling was was mechanical with me I just didn't pay attention to a guy you just use
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you just use the word mechanical with rings 20.8 en iris Barry in the Saxon
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GAC Chaplin modern times was kidding machine what is it
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what is the difference between the two dyrus Barry .7 ticket if you could spend on this
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I miss a Buster Keaton movies in the mechanized world and I can happen
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what happened to another planet he gives with frozen bewilderment a nightmare reality inventions
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inventions contrivances like deck chairs and Ram engines seen animals see my life
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see my life to Him in the same measure the human beings become impersonal without friends are
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what up friends relatives is General in Cape bliss ocean with human faces
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mechanical devices almost invisible to him the only being understanding
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understand him and then she goes on the speaker of Chapel escaping into the room of freedom
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round of freedom in The Sims what you actually really Humanity in the machine world
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sheen world and you make the machine so much part of yourself
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about this you and the machines when you work with well I guess if I found out I can
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find out that I can get my best material working with something like that no other words I was the one
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when your original Do It Yourself others I may not know how to do a carpenter job but I said I could
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job but I said I could build a house and then as you build in frontier armory body knows
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everybody knows you get your going to get in trouble when you start that thinking about today
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why your humerus so alive today today with more and more machines
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machines how to keep numerals early to readers even more pregnant today
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today happy thought of the day off recreating 7 films on
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who's on using today is a basis Katy wouldn't try to create new forms to mess with them
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the mess with the past the age of being a #### does
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jumping around the whilst action stuff that I did
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what does I still try but I'm not going
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but I'm not going to remake any of those I'm going to reissue we were us I'm just back from you
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I'm just back from Europe and up went through the Munich
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do the Munich and passing Paris I find out the disco comedy
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comedy is king was playing for the Enders they're not found out they were playing a 6 theaters in love
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Steelers in London by 3 in West Berlin Stephen Dunham
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even done in the Munich which one of the big labs Studios
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exhibitor says if you got any pictures we can have me the silence
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silence says no but I'm going to make sure you get them so I'm in
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so I'm in Munich made arrangements to give them do maggots
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because I found Prince the original negatives of black league on
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gone but finding good princivalli's old pictures that I could get a good
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how to get a good to make a table of elements Bayern Munich
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they will make me new Prince sama the subtitles off a
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the in French summon German summons Italian sub Spanish
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and some in English and all we do is put a fork
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a4 constration music track to those on pictures
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pictures with no monitor led ovation subtitles in but a good musical
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what a good musical score behind them and re release a man this is going to happen in the next couple of months
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what months pictures well as the ones in the start New York first
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first because a television has the lyrics the neighbourhood
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all the neighbourhood motion picture theaters there so you got an awful lot of theaters soon as I see with
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soon as I see what they're going to do there then I'll have to press made for here navigate urgent
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navigator general my guess I'll have a 18 2 rivers and 10 features
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features look when is pretty clear a parent with you tell me that the art
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the art of a silent film is universal language barrier
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find out that long ago and I might suspect your use of cops
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the youngest picture of the cytosol have would be a
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parody getting some of the serious atoms found in the book The Giver the mayor
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is Keaton as as Hamlet you are as a cowboy hero what what what
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I try to be bill Hart in that picture frozen north I had little trouble
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little trouble but I tried my best to be Bell hard so much so hard to speak to me for
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did speak to me for a couple years after I made it I was kid name is I didn't get Jubilee
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remind telling us about that is William S Hart be strong 700 always lose the girl and Noble
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nobody's hero well that was on the last part of his career for some reason a
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how to turn ham on as it was a great actor they got him
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regatta hammy the end of his career in the always look for the opportunity to
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cry even with the two guns on strap do a side out
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out the desert the girl turn look at another man tears ran down East
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cheeks the nothing to do about it images on
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images on producer so what did you do when your fellow I cry 2
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why does Listerine tears run down when I tell ya what ya
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what is the unit take on Cecil B DeMille to animate Stravaganza
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Kansas Orianna time I had a bathroom singer of bedrooms try to make it
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try to make the mill set out of it I'm looking at a picture photograph of you in the film
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film call daydreams 1922 what scene and you if you were
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do you were not elected in a famous urgent is a patient Hamlet
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picture there is it like a dream dream sequence I buy Magic Mike south
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what company was King the soccer team it was like a dream that all of the movies like
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movies like a while dreaming we dream of strangers sum of the two rivers worth we got so wild and crazy
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wild crazy a.m. We lost all of that when we started making figure pictures
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pictures please stop doing impossible gags and what we call cartoon gay
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cartoon gay bad to Beaver believable or your story with my heart
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when through the ground people come running up and down the hole
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the whole scene faded out a time come inside years later if I did back in on the Country Club in
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set around and talk about for quite a while before we start the picture
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start the picture on then take advantage of anything else happened to add to
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This Is It this is a shock to anybody this in the motion picture business today
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business today I mean your veterans of the other pictures
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of the pictures of the last 25 years or so the didn't know
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the chapel in our Lord or myself ever had a script
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we never thought of writing a script did need to the time we had
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talk to neural worked out what we thought was a picture French does weed
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that's a good start alright we want to know the finish right then and there
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there's nothing else to work on but the finish and we can't roundabout shopping
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subway like Withrow that went away and start on 01 when we get the Stars
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types of film in the big setup and half for real in the in the broom closet
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throws up their hands from the center door you could see it are you coming soon you'll just about to hit him
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about to hit him if you're missing get her know that's the way we will a bow sings out
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time in verbally somebody's going up on elbow or bump in ear something like that now that shot away from the next day
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seem like the good the second time Johnny got my first one and everybody else
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free to do to keep that action go
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mechanical maybe that's one of the reasons that was so much laughter in the house the other night
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the house the other night and when comedy was can use that we have the feeling I mean the younger people I had to say
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can I have this feeling that was seeing what's happening now that it happen only one
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standing outside of a building the car fire in the Play Store set for the fire department so you got the fire
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pacman come out of the burning building to look around a cigarette his mouth and a little bit of the burning
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over the burning building in the ward of an emergency rooms son of Sardar
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what happened in silent films I was your City
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body on a pretty girl in myself and we have drifted across the Pacific Ocean
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on a dead ship no water running no lights no nothing
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and we run agrounds Stern first of a cannibal island
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the wild type of cannibals are headhunters well I was just a matter of time is Argo
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see this water pouring in around the driving shaft big can't be plug from inside
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what from inside is going to be done from outside what automatic there's a deep sea diving
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equipment in right there on the set with other girls but help me put it on
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help me put it on and she's up there to pump air to make what we laid out this guide vans
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advance and had built by the Llewellyn Iron Works in Los Angeles
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we got about 1200 solid rubber fish about a footlong
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try to go to the score good makeup I see a starfish clean to a rock
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do a rock so I got the starfish of the Rockefeller grab my breast plate
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what is the big fish throat turned in traffic
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took that sequence and put it in the call Leah Leo
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because they were worried about the actual trouble you in the girl in the picture
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newsreel cameraman and I got into a tone word on Chinatown New York
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try to photograph things and I get cornered by then they didn't want a picture to go out so they started after me
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after me show images and I'm down the last real
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big laughing picture finish that when I started for me Iran
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so we have to go back and retake the day that sequence I don't deserve to be in the JC that
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that another was alright then had to be with you all the time yes I did Desiree pick us they were
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because they were identified themselves with you all the way that I can most important to me camera for me to
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camera for me to just desserts what about the matter of last building for 11 don't think
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great guy but didn't belong there. Even though you have a beginning in Anthem Arizona
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