Full Phone Call: Trump Pressures Georgia Secretary of State To Recount Election Votes | NBC News
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0:00 - 0:03Mark Meadows:
Mr President everybody is on the line -
0:03 - 0:05and just so, this is Mark Meadows the
Chief of Staff -
0:05 - 0:09just so we all are aware
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0:09 - 0:15on the line is secretary of state and
two other individuals, -
0:16 - 0:20Jordan and Mr. Germany with him.
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0:20 - 0:26You also have the attorneys that represent
the President, -
0:26 - 0:31Kurt and Alex and Cleta Mitchell
who is not the attorney of record -
0:31 - 0:35but he's been involved,
myself and then the President. -
0:35 - 0:37So Mr. President, I'll turn it over to you
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0:37 - 0:40Donald Trump: Okay thank you very much.
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0:40 - 0:43Hello, Brad and Ryan and everybody:
we appreciate the time and the call. -
0:44 - 0:47So we've spent a lot of time on this and
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0:48 - 0:50if we could just go over some
of the numbers -
0:50 - 0:56i think it's pretty clear that we won,
we won very substantially Georgia, -
0:58 - 1:00you even see it by rally size, frankly.
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1:00 - 1:03We'd be getting 25, 30,000 people a rally
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1:03 - 1:07and the competition would get
less than a 100 people. -
1:07 - 1:10and it's never made sense,
but we have a number of things, -
1:10 - 1:12we have at least two or three
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1:12 - 1:16anywhere from 250 to 300,000 ballots
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1:16 - 1:19were dropped mysteriously into the rolls.
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1:20 - 1:24Much of that had to do with Fulton County
which hasn't been checked -
1:24 - 1:27we think that if you check the signatures
a real check of the signatures -
1:27 - 1:31going back in Fulton County,
you'll find at least -
1:31 - 1:34a couple of hundred thousand
of forged signatures -
1:35 - 1:38of people with -- that who have
who have been forged -
1:40 - 1:42and we are quite sure
that's going to happen. -
1:42 - 1:45Another tremendous number --
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1:45 - 1:48we're gonna have an accurate number
over the next two days, -
1:48 - 1:53with certified accountants --
but an accurate number will be given, -
1:53 - 1:59but it's in the 50s of thousands,
and that's people that went to vote -
1:59 - 2:01and they were told they can't vote
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2:01 - 2:03because they've already been voted for
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2:04 - 2:06and it's a very sad thing.
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2:06 - 2:09they walked out complaining but they --
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2:09 - 2:12the number's large, we'll have it for you,
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2:12 - 2:17but it's very, it's much more
than the number of 11,779 -
2:17 - 2:22that's -- the the current margin is only
11,779. -
2:22 - 2:24Brad, I think I think
you agree with that, right? -
2:24 - 2:27That's, that's something I think everyone
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2:27 - 2:29at least that's the number
that everyone agrees on, -
2:29 - 2:32but that's the difference in the votes.
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2:33 - 2:41But we've had hundreds of thousands
of ballots that we're able to -- -
2:41 - 2:43actually, we'll get you
a pretty accurate number. -
2:43 - 2:47You don't need much of a number
because the number that in theory -
2:47 - 2:51I lost by the margin would be 11,779.
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2:51 - 2:55But you also have [a] substantial
numbers of people -
2:55 - 2:59thousands and thousands who went
to the voting place on November third -
2:59 - 3:02were told they couldn't vote,
were told they couldn't vote -
3:02 - 3:06because a ballot had been put in
on their name and you know -
3:06 - 3:10that's very very very very sad.
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3:10 - 3:17We had, I believe it's about 4,502 voters
who voted -
3:18 - 3:21but who weren't
on the voter registration list. -
3:21 - 3:26so it's 5 thou-- 4,502 who voted
but they were not -
3:26 - 3:30on the voter registration roll
which they had to be. -
3:31 - 3:36You had 18,325 vacant address voters,
they had no -- -
3:36 - 3:41the address was vacant and
they're not allowed to be counted. -
3:41 - 3:43That's 18,325.
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3:44 - 3:49Smaller number: you had 904
who only voted. -
3:50 - 3:53where they had just a PO,
a post office box number -
3:54 - 3:59and they had a post office box number
and that's not allowed. -
3:59 - 4:09We had at least 18 000 that's on tape
we had 'em counted very painstakingly, -
4:09 - 4:1418,000 voters having to do
with Ruby Freeman that's -
4:14 - 4:19she's a vote scammer
a professional vote scammer and hustler. -
4:19 - 4:25Ruby Freeman that is, that was the tape
that's been shown all over the world -
4:25 - 4:28that makes everybody look bad... you, me
and everybody else, -
4:28 - 4:33where they got, number one,
they said very clearly -
4:33 - 4:38and it's been reported that they said
there was a major water main break. -
4:38 - 4:42Everybody fled the area
and then they came back: -
4:42 - 4:45Ruby Freeman, her daughter
and a few people. -
4:45 - 4:48There were no Republican poll watchers,
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4:48 - 4:51actually, there were no Democrat
poll watchers, I guess they were them -
4:51 - 4:55but there were no democrats either and
there was no law enforcement. -
4:55 - 4:58Late in the morning, they went--
early in the morning, -
4:58 - 5:04they went to the table
with the black robe, the black shield, -
5:04 - 5:05and they pulled out the votes.
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5:05 - 5:08Those votes were put there
a number of hours before -- -
5:08 - 5:11the table was put there --
I think it was, Brad, you would know, -
5:11 - 5:14it was probably
eight hours or seven hours before -
5:14 - 5:16and then it was stuffed with votes.
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5:16 - 5:20They weren't in an official voter box,
they were in what looked to be -
5:20 - 5:28suitcases or trunks, suitcases, but
they weren't in voter boxes. -
5:28 - 5:31The minimum number, it could be,
because we watched it -
5:31 - 5:37and they watched it, certified ,
in slow motion, instant replay, -
5:37 - 5:40if you can believe it,
but it had slow motion -
5:40 - 5:43and it was magnified many times over,
and the minimum it was, -
5:43 - 5:46was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden.
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5:48 - 5:53You had out-of-state voters,
they voted in Georgia -
5:53 - 5:58but they were from out of state of 4,925.
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5:59 - 6:04You had absentee ballots
sent to their vacant, -
6:04 - 6:07they were absentee ballots
sent to vacant addresses, -
6:07 - 6:12they had nothing on them
about addresses, that's 2,326. -
6:14 - 6:19And you had drop boxes, which was very bad.
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6:19 - 6:22You had drop boxes that were picked up.
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6:22 - 6:27We have photographs and
we have affidavits from many people. -
6:27 - 6:30I don't know if you saw the hearings
but you have dropboxes -
6:30 - 6:33where the box was picked up
and not delivered for three days... -
6:34 - 6:37so all sorts of things could have
happened to that box, including, -
6:37 - 6:40you know, putting in the votes
that you wanted. -
6:40 - 6:44So there were many infractions
and the bottom line is -
6:44 - 6:50many many times the 11,779 margin
that they said we lost by. -
6:50 - 6:58We had vast, I mean you have,
the state is in turmoil over this -
6:58 - 7:01and I know you would like to get
to the bottom of it, -
7:01 - 7:06although I saw you on television today
and you said that you found nothing wrong. -
7:06 - 7:09I mean, you know, and
I didn't lose the state, Brad. -
7:09 - 7:15People have have been saying
that it was the highest vote ever -
7:15 - 7:18there was no way,
a lot of the the political people -
7:18 - 7:24said that there's no way they beat me
and they beat me in the -- Paul as you know, -
7:24 - 7:28every single state, we won every state,
we won every state house in the country, -
7:29 - 7:31we held the Senate,
which is shocking to people, -
7:31 - 7:34although we'll see what happens
tomorrow or in a few days, -
7:34 - 7:37and we won the House.
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7:37 - 7:42But we won every single state house and
we won Congress, which was supposed -
7:42 - 7:47to lose 15 seats and they gained, I think,
16 or 17 or something, i think. -
7:47 - 7:48there's now a difference of five.
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7:48 - 7:51There was supposed to be a difference
substantially more. -
7:51 - 7:55But politicians in every state,
but politicians in Georgia -
7:55 - 8:01have given affidavits and are going to --
that, that there was no way they beat me -
8:01 - 8:04in the, in the election,
that the people came out, -
8:04 - 8:06in fact they were expecting to lose
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8:06 - 8:10And then, they ended up winning by a lot
because of the coattails. -
8:10 - 8:13and they said there's no way,
that they've done many polls -
8:13 - 8:17prior to the election,
there was no way that they won. -
8:17 - 8:22Ballots were dropped in massive numbers
and we're trying to get to those numbers, -
8:22 - 8:25and we will have them -- they'll take
a period of time -- certified -
8:26 - 8:33but they're massive numbers and
far greater than the 11,779. -
8:35 - 8:38The other thing - dead people -
so dead people voted -
8:39 - 8:44and I think the the number is in the -
close to 5,000 people -
8:45 - 8:47and they went to obituaries
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8:47 - 8:52they went to all sorts of methods
to come up with an accurate number. -
8:52 - 8:55At a minimum it's close to
about 5,000 voters. -
8:55 - 9:00The bottom line is when you add it all up
and then you start adding, you know, -
9:00 - 9:03300,000 of fake ballots,
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9:04 - 9:07then the other thing they said
is in Fulton County in other areas -
9:08 - 9:12and this may or may not seem -- be true -
this just came up this morning -
9:12 - 9:18that they are burning their ballots
that they are shredding, shredding ballots -
9:18 - 9:20and removing equipment.
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9:20 - 9:25They're changing the equipment on the,
on the Dominion machines -
9:26 - 9:30And... you know that's not legal,
and they supposedly shredded, -
9:30 - 9:34I think they said 300 pounds of --
3,000 pounds of ballots. -
9:35 - 9:38And that just came to us
as a report today -
9:38 - 9:43And you know it's --
it's a very sad situation. -
9:43 - 9:45But, but Brad --
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9:46 - 9:53If you took the minimum numbers we're --
we're many many times above the 11,779 -
9:53 - 9:56and many of those numbers are certified,
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9:56 - 9:58or they will be certified,
but they are certified. -
9:58 - 10:02And those are numbers that are there
that exist - and that, -
10:03 - 10:07that beat the margin, the margin of loss.
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10:08 - 10:10It beat - they beat it, I mean by a lot
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10:11 - 10:14and people should be happy to have
an accurate count -
10:14 - 10:16instead of an election
where there's turmoil - -
10:16 - 10:19I mean there's turmoil in Georgia
and other places, -
10:19 - 10:22you're not the only one, I mean, we have
other states that I believe -
10:22 - 10:24will be flipping to us very shortly.
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10:25 - 10:29And, but this is - this is something
that's -- you know, -
10:29 - 10:33as an example I think in Detroit
and I think there's a section, -
10:33 - 10:36a good section of your state actually,
which we're not sure, -
10:36 - 10:38so we're not going to report it yet,
but -
10:38 - 10:40in Detroit, we had 100 -
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10:40 - 10:46I think it was 139 percent
of the people voted. -
10:47 - 10:49That's not too good.
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10:49 - 10:55In Pennsylvania, they had
well over 200,000 more votes -
10:55 - 10:56than they had people voting.
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10:57 - 11:00And -- that was --
that doesn't play too well. -
11:00 - 11:04And the legislature there is
which is Republican -
11:04 - 11:06is extremely activist and angry.
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11:07 - 11:11But I mean, there were other things
also that were almost as bad as that -
11:11 - 11:15but, but, they had, as an example,
in Michigan, a tremendous number -
11:15 - 11:17a tremendous number of dead people
that voted. -
11:17 - 11:22I think it was - I think Mark -
it was 18,000 of -- -
11:22 - 11:25some unbelievably high number
much higher than yours - -
11:25 - 11:32you were in the 4 to 5,000 category
and that was checked out laboriously -
11:32 - 11:39by going through, versus, by going through
the obituary columns in the newspapers. -
11:40 - 11:44So I guess with all of it being said,
Brad, it's the bottom line and- -
11:44 - 11:47provisional ballots again, you know,
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11:47 - 11:50you'll have to tell me
about the provisional ballots, -
11:50 - 11:53but we have a lot of people
that were complaining -
11:53 - 11:56that they weren't able to vote because
they were already voted for. -
11:56 - 12:00These are great people, and you know,
they were shell-shocked. -
12:00 - 12:03I don't know if you call that
provisional ballots, -
12:03 - 12:06in some states, we had a lot of
provisional ballot situations -
12:06 - 12:09where people were given
a provisional ballot -
12:09 - 12:11because when they walked in on
November 3rd, -
12:11 - 12:15they were already voting for, voted for.
So that's it, I mean -
12:15 - 12:21we have many many times the number
of votes necessary to win the state. -
12:22 - 12:27And we won the state and we won it
very substantially and easily -
12:27 - 12:32and we're, we're getting, we have --
much of this is a very cert, you know -
12:32 - 12:36they're certified, far more are certified
than we need -
12:37 - 12:39but we're getting additional numbers
certified too -
12:39 - 12:44and we're getting pictures of dropboxes
being delivered and delivered late, -
12:44 - 12:46and delivered three days later
in some cases. -
12:47 - 12:49Plus we have many affidavits
to that effect. -
12:50 - 12:54Mark Meadows: So Mr President if I,
if I might be able to jump in -
12:54 - 12:55and I'll give Brad a chance.
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12:56 - 13:05Mr Secretary, one obviously, there is,
there are allegations where we believe -
13:05 - 13:12that not every vote or fair vote
and legal vote was was counted -
13:12 - 13:17and that's at odds with the representation
from the Secretary of State's Office. -
13:18 - 13:23What I'm hopeful for is there are
some way that we can find -
13:23 - 13:30some kind of agreement
to look at this a little bit more fully. -
13:30 - 13:33As you know, the President mentioned
Fulton County, -
13:33 - 13:38but in some of these areas where
there seems to be a difference of, -
13:38 - 13:42where the facts seem to lead.
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13:42 - 13:49And so, Mr. Secretary, I was hopeful that,
in a spirit of cooperation and compromise, -
13:49 - 13:51is there something that
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13:51 - 13:55we can at least have a discussion
to look at some of these allegations -
13:55 - 14:01to to find a path forward
that's less litigious. -
14:03 - 14:09Raffensperger: Well, I've listened to
what the President has just said. -
14:09 - 14:14President Trump, we've had
several lawsuits -
14:14 - 14:18and we've had to respond in court
to the lawsuits and the contentions. -
14:20 - 14:22We don't agree that you have won,
we don't -- -
14:22 - 14:26I didn't agree about the 200,000 number
that you mentioned, -
14:26 - 14:28and I'll go through that point by point.
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14:28 - 14:32What we have done is, we gave
our State Senate -
14:32 - 14:38about one and a half hours of of our time,
going through the election issue by issue. -
14:39 - 14:42And then on the State House,
the Government Affairs Committee, -
14:42 - 14:46we gave them about two and a half hours
of our time, going back point by point -
14:46 - 14:50on all the issues of contention.
And then just a few days ago, -
14:50 - 14:54we met with our US congressmen,
Republican congressmen, -
14:54 - 14:56and we gave them about two hours
of our time -
14:57 - 14:59talking about this past election.
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15:01 - 15:05Going back primarily what you're --
what you've talked about here -
15:05 - 15:09focused in on primarily, I believe is
the absentee ballot process. -
15:09 - 15:14I don't believe that you're really
questioning the, the Dominion machines, -
15:14 - 15:19because we did a hand re-tally
a 100% re-tally of all the ballots -
15:19 - 15:21and compared that to
what the machine said -
15:21 - 15:23and it came up with
virtually the same result. -
15:23 - 15:26Then we did the recount,
we got virtually the same results. -
15:26 - 15:29So I guess we could probably take that
off the table. -
15:29 - 15:34I don't think there's an issue about
that. I think what you were -- -
15:34 - 15:37Trump: Well, Brad, Brad,
not that there’s not an issue, -
15:37 - 15:41but cause I, we, have a big issue
with Dominion -
15:41 - 15:44in other states and perhaps in yours,
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15:44 - 15:46but we have we haven't felt
we needed to go there. -
15:47 - 15:51And just to, you know maybe, put a little
different spin on what Mark is saying, -
15:51 - 15:56Mark Meadows, yeah we'd like to go further
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15:56 - 15:58but we don't really need to
we have all the votes we need. -
15:58 - 16:00You know, we won the state.
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16:00 - 16:04If you took, these are the most minimal
numbers, the numbers that I gave you. -
16:04 - 16:07Those are numbers that are certified.
Your absentee ballots -
16:07 - 16:12sent to vacant addresses,
your out-of-state voters, 4,925, -
16:12 - 16:16you know, when you add them up,
it's many more time it's many times -
16:16 - 16:19the 11,779 number.
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16:19 - 16:23So we could go through, we have not
gone through your Dominion, -
16:23 - 16:27so we can't give them blessing. I mean,
in other states, we think we found -
16:27 - 16:29tremendous corruption
with Dominion machines, -
16:29 - 16:30but we'll have to see.
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16:30 - 16:35But we, we only lost the state
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16:35 - 16:41by 11 thou--, by that number,
11,000 votes and 779. -
16:41 - 16:46So with that being said,
with just what we have, -
16:48 - 16:51and you know, with just what we have,
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16:51 - 16:53we're giving you minimum, minimum numbers,
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16:53 - 16:56we're doing the most conservative numbers
possible. -
16:56 - 17:01We're many times many, many times
above the margin. -
17:01 - 17:03And so we don't really have to, Mark,
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17:03 - 17:06I don't think we have to go through --
Meadows: Right. -
17:06 - 17:12Trump: because what's the difference
between winning the election by two votes -
17:12 - 17:14and winning it by a half a million votes?
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17:14 - 17:17I think we probably did win it
by half a mill... you know, -
17:17 - 17:20one of the things that happened,
Brad, is we have other people -
17:20 - 17:25coming in now from Alabama and
from South Carolina and from other states, -
17:26 - 17:30and they're saying "It's impossible
for you to have lost Georgia." -
17:30 - 17:34We won, you know, in Alabama, we set
a record, got the highest vote ever. -
17:34 - 17:39In Georgia, we set a record,
with a massive amount of votes, -
17:39 - 17:43and they say "It's not possible
to have lost Georgia." -
17:43 - 17:45And I could tell you by our rallies,
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17:45 - 17:48I could tell you by the rally I'm having
on Monday night, -
17:48 - 17:51the place, they already have lines
of people standing out front, waiting. -
17:51 - 17:54It's just not possible to have lost
Georgia, it's not possible. -
17:54 - 17:57When I heard it was close,
I said there's no way, -
17:58 - 18:01but they dropped a lot of votes in there,
late at night, you know that, Brad, -
18:01 - 18:04and that's what we are working on
very, very stringently. -
18:04 - 18:09But regardless of those votes,
with all of it being said, -
18:09 - 18:14we lost by 11, essentially, 11,000 votes.
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18:14 - 18:19And we have many more votes
already calculated and certified too. -
18:19 - 18:24So I just don't know, you know,
Mark, I don't know what's the purpose. -
18:24 - 18:28I won't give Dominion a pass
because we found too many bad things, -
18:28 - 18:31but we don't need Dominion
or anything else. -
18:31 - 18:35We have, we have all,
we have won this election in Georgia, -
18:35 - 18:40based on all of this and there's
nothing wrong with saying that, Brad. -
18:40 - 18:43You know, I mean, having a correct --
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18:43 - 18:46The people of Georgia are angry and
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18:46 - 18:49these numbers are gonna be repeated
on Monday night, -
18:49 - 18:51along with others that we're gonna have
by that time, -
18:51 - 18:53which are much more substantial, even.
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18:53 - 18:57And the people of Georgia are angry,
the people of the country are angry, -
18:57 - 19:00and there's nothing wrong with saying
that, you know -- -
19:01 - 19:08that you've recalculated because
the 2,236 in absentee ballots, -
19:08 - 19:12I mean, they're all exact numbers
that were, were done -
19:12 - 19:15by accounting firms, law firms etc.
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19:16 - 19:17And even if you cut them in half,
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19:17 - 19:19cut them in half,
and cut them in half again, -
19:19 - 19:21it's more votes than we need.
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19:22 - 19:25Raffensperger: Well, Mr President,
the challenge that you have -
19:25 - 19:27is the data you have is wrong.
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19:28 - 19:31We talked to the congressmen
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19:31 - 19:33and they were surprised but they
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19:33 - 19:35I guess there was a person named
Mr. Raynard -
19:35 - 19:37that came to these meetings and
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19:37 - 19:39presented data
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19:39 - 19:41and he said that there was dead people
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19:41 - 19:42I believe it was upward of five thousand
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19:42 - 19:44the actual number were two.
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19:44 - 19:47Two people that were dead that voted,
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19:47 - 19:49and so that's wrong that was two.
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19:49 - 19:51President Trump: Well Cleta how
do you respond to that? -
19:51 - 19:52I mean, you tell me
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19:52 - 19:55Cleta Mitchell: Well, I would say,
Mr. Secretary, one of -
19:55 - 19:57the things that we have requested
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19:57 - 19:59and we did, what we said was, and
if you look at -
20:00 - 20:03this--if you read our petition it says
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20:03 - 20:08that we took the name and birth years
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20:08 - 20:10and, you know, we had certain information
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20:10 - 20:12available to us.
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20:12 - 20:15We have asked from your office for
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20:15 - 20:16records that only you have.
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20:16 - 20:21And so we said there's a universe
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20:21 - 20:24of people who have the same name and
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20:24 - 20:27same birth year and died,
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20:27 - 20:30but we don't have the records that you
have. -
20:31 - 20:34And one of the things that we have been
suggesting, -
20:34 - 20:38formally and informally, for
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20:38 - 20:43weeks now, is to try is
for you to make available -
20:43 - 20:47to us the records that would be necessary
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20:49 - 20:51Trump: But Cleta, Even before you do that
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20:51 - 20:53Cleta, even before you do that,
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20:53 - 20:55and not even including that that's why I
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20:55 - 20:57hardly even included that number
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20:57 - 20:58although in one state we have a
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20:58 - 21:00tremendous amount of dead people, so I
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21:00 - 21:02don't know. I'm sure we do in Georgia too.
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21:02 - 21:05I'm sure we do in Georgia too, but
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21:05 - 21:09is that we're so far ahead,
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21:09 - 21:11we're so far ahead of these numbers, even
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21:11 - 21:12the phony ballots of
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21:12 - 21:16of Ruby Freeman, known scammer.
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21:16 - 21:18You know the Internet you know what was
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21:18 - 21:20trending on the Internet?
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21:20 - 21:22"Where's Ruby?" Because they thought you'd
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21:22 - 21:23be in jail.
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21:23 - 21:24Where's Ruby? It's a
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21:27 - 21:30It's---it's crazy, it's crazy that was.
-
21:30 - 21:32The minimum number is 18,000
-
21:32 - 21:34for Ruby, but they think it's probably
-
21:34 - 21:37about 56,000.
But the minimum number is -
21:37 - 21:4118,000 on the Ruby Freeman night
where she ran back in -
21:41 - 21:43there when everybody was gone and stuff.
-
21:43 - 21:45She stuffed the ballot boxes, let's face
it Brad. -
21:45 - 21:49I mean they did it in slow motion
replay magnified, right. -
21:49 - 21:51She stuffed the ballot boxes.
-
21:51 - 21:55They were stuffed like nobody's
ever seen them stuffed before. -
21:55 - 21:59So there's a term for it when
it's a machine instead of a ballot box, -
21:59 - 22:02but she stuffed the machine, she stuffed
the ballot. -
22:02 - 22:05Each--each ballot went three times.
They were showing: -
22:05 - 22:09here's ballot number one, here it is the
second time, the third time, -
22:09 - 22:13next ballot.
I mean look Brad, this is-- -
22:13 - 22:14We have a new tape that we're going
-
22:14 - 22:17to release... it's devastating.
-
22:17 - 22:20And by the way that one event,
that one event -
22:20 - 22:23is much more than the 11,000 votes that
we're talking about. -
22:25 - 22:29It's, you know, that one event was a
-
22:29 - 22:32a disaster, it's just, you know
-
22:32 - 22:33but it was
-
22:33 - 22:37it it was something that, it can't be
disputed. -
22:37 - 22:42Yet again we have a version that you
haven't seen, but it's--it's magnified. -
22:44 - 22:47It's magnified and you can see every
everything. -
22:47 - 22:50And she put, for some reason, they put it
in three times... -
22:51 - 22:53each ballot, and I don't know why.
-
22:53 - 22:56But you know, why, I don't know why three
times. Why not five times, right? -
22:56 - 23:00but... yeah go ahead
-
23:00 - 23:04Raffensperger: You're talking about
the StateFarm video, and I think it's -
23:04 - 23:11extremely unfortunate that Rudy Giuliani
or his people they sliced and diced that video -
23:11 - 23:12and took it out of context.
-
23:12 - 23:17So the next day we brought in WSBTV and
we let them show to see the full run of -
23:17 - 23:19tape.
And what you'll see, -
23:19 - 23:22the events that transpired are nowhere
near what was -
23:22 - 23:25was projected by--
Trump: But where were the poll -
23:25 - 23:27watchers Brad? There were no poll
watchers there. -
23:27 - 23:30There were no Democrats or Republicans.
There was no security there. -
23:30 - 23:33It was late in the evening, late in the--
early in the morning -
23:34 - 23:36and there was nobody else in the room.
-
23:36 - 23:39Where were the poll watchers and
why did they say a water main broke? -
23:39 - 23:42Which they did, and which is reported in
in the newspapers. -
23:43 - 23:46They said they left.
They ran out because of a water main -
23:46 - 23:48break, and there was no water main.
-
23:48 - 23:50There was nothing.
There was no break. -
23:50 - 23:51There was no water main break.
-
23:51 - 23:54But where, if you, if you take out
everything, -
23:54 - 23:58where were the Republican poll watchers?
Even where were the Democrat poll -
23:58 - 24:00watchers cause there were none.
-
24:01 - 24:04And then you say, well they left their
station, -
24:04 - 24:09you know, if you look at the tape.
And this was--this was reviewed by -
24:09 - 24:13professional police and detectives
and other people. -
24:15 - 24:18When they left in a rush--
Everybody left in a rush -
24:18 - 24:21cause of the water main, but everybody
left in a rush. -
24:21 - 24:26These people left their station.
When they came back, -
24:26 - 24:32they didn't go to their station. They went
to the apron wrapped around the table, -
24:32 - 24:38under which were thousands and thousands
of ballots in a box that -
24:38 - 24:41in a box that was not an official or
a sealed box. -
24:43 - 24:46And then they took those and they went
back to a different station. -
24:46 - 24:50So if they would have come back, they
would have walked to their station and -
24:50 - 24:52they would have continued to work.
-
24:53 - 24:56But they couldn't do even that
because that's illegal because they had no -
24:56 - 24:58Republican poll watchers.
-
24:58 - 25:01And remember, her reputation is
is, deva--- -
25:01 - 25:05She's known all over the Internet, Brad.
She's known all over it. -
25:06 - 25:11I'm telling you where's, where's Ruby?
Was one of the hot items on the-- -
25:11 - 25:13Ruby they knew her... where's Ruby?
-
25:13 - 25:17So Brad, you know this, there can be no
justification for that -
25:18 - 25:20and I, you know, I give everybody the
-
25:20 - 25:22benefit of the doubt
-
25:22 - 25:27but that was and and Brad why did they
put the votes in three times, you know? -
25:27 - 25:29they put them in three times--
-
25:29 - 25:33Raffensperger: Mr. President they did not
put that. We we can we did an audit of -
25:33 - 25:36that. We've proved conclusively that they
were not scanned three times. -
25:36 - 25:40Trump: Well where was everybody else at
that late time in the morning? -
25:40 - 25:42Where was everybody? Where were the
Republicans? -
25:42 - 25:44Where were the security guards?
-
25:44 - 25:48Where were the people that were there
just a little while before when everyone -
25:48 - 25:49ran out of the room?
-
25:49 - 25:51How come how come we had no security in
the room? -
25:51 - 25:54Why did they run to the bottom of the
table? -
25:55 - 25:57Why did they run there and just open the
-
25:57 - 26:00skirt and rip out the, and rip out the
votes? -
26:00 - 26:01I mean, Brad
-
26:01 - 26:06And they were sitting there, I think
for five hours or something like that, -
26:06 - 26:09the votes, but they just all happened to
run back and go... -
26:10 - 26:11you know, Brad
-
26:11 - 26:15Raffensperger: Mr. President, we'll send
you the link from WSD that doesn't- -
26:15 - 26:17Trump: I don't care about a link, I don't
need it. -
26:17 - 26:19I have a link and I have a much better
link. -
26:19 - 26:21I have a much better link
-
26:21 - 26:23Cleta: Mr. Secretary, I will tell you
I've seen the tape, -
26:23 - 26:25the full tape, so has Alex.
-
26:25 - 26:28We've watched it, and what we saw and
-
26:28 - 26:31what we've confirmed in the timing is that
-
26:33 - 26:35they made everybody leave.
-
26:35 - 26:37We have sworn affidavits saying that.
-
26:37 - 26:42And then they continue--then they began
to process ballots and our estimate is -
26:42 - 26:44that there are roughly 18,000 ballots.
-
26:44 - 26:46We don't know that. if you know that--
-
26:46 - 26:49Trump: it was 18,000 ballots
but they used each one three times-- -
26:49 - 26:53Cleta: Well I don't know about that-
-
26:53 - 26:56Trump: Well I do, because we have--
We had ours magnified out -
26:57 - 27:01Cleta: But we have, I've watched the
entire thing. -
27:01 - 27:05Trump: But, you know. But nobody can make a case for
that Brad. No body. -
27:05 - 27:09I mean look, that's--you'd have to be a
child to think anything other than that. -
27:09 - 27:11Just a child, I mean you have you never--
-
27:12 - 27:15Cleta: How many ballots--
How many ballots--[unintelligible] -
27:16 - 27:21Raffensperger: We had--we had GTI
certainly investigate that. -
27:22 - 27:24Ryan Germany: We had our, this is Ryan
Germany, -
27:24 - 27:27We had our law enforcement
officers talk to everyone who was who was -
27:27 - 27:30there after that event came to light.
-
27:30 - 27:35The GBI was with them as well as FBI
agents-- -
27:35 - 27:38Trump: Well there's no way they could
poss...Then they're incompetent. -
27:38 - 27:39They're either dishonest-
-
27:39 - 27:41Cleta: Well what did they find?
-
27:41 - 27:44Trump: There's only two answers:
dishonesty or incompetence. -
27:44 - 27:46There's just no way, look, there's no way.
-
27:46 - 27:47And on the other side...
-
27:47 - 27:51I said too there's no way. I mean there's
no way that these things could have been.. -
27:51 - 27:55You know, you have all these different
people that--that voted, but they don't -
27:55 - 27:57live in Georgia anymore.
-
27:57 - 28:00What was that number Cleta? That was a
pretty good number too. -
28:00 - 28:04Cleta: Well the number who had registered
out of state after they moved from Georgia -
28:07 - 28:10And so they they had a date when they
moved from Georgia, -
28:10 - 28:13they registered to vote out of state and
then it's like 4500 -
28:13 - 28:15I don't have that right in front of me--
-
28:15 - 28:18Trump: And then they came back in and they
voted. -
28:18 - 28:20Cleta: and voted, yeah
Trump: No that was a large number -
28:20 - 28:22though it was in the 20s.
-
28:22 - 28:24And you know the point is-
-
28:24 - 28:28Germany: We've been going through each of
those as well and and those numbers -
28:28 - 28:32that we got that Ms. Mitchell was just
saying, they're not accurate. -
28:34 - 28:37Everyone we've been through are people
that lived in Georgia, -
28:37 - 28:41moved to a different state, but then
moved back to Georgia legitimately. -
28:41 - 28:42And in many cases-
-
28:42 - 28:46Trump: How many people do that? I mean
they moved out and then they said -
28:46 - 28:48"ah to hell with it I'll move back" and
you know -
28:48 - 28:51it doesn't sound like a very normal--
You mean they moved out -
28:51 - 28:54and what they missed it so much that
they wanted to move back in? -
28:54 - 28:56You know, it's like, it's great.
-
28:56 - 28:59Germany: Well and then this is they
moved back in years ago. -
28:59 - 29:01This was not like something just
before the election. -
29:01 - 29:04So there's something about that data
that it's just not accurate. -
29:04 - 29:08Trump: Well I don't know. I mean, all I
know is that it is it is certified. -
29:09 - 29:13and they moved out of Georgia and they
voted. -
29:13 - 29:15it didn't say they moved back in Cleta,
did it? -
29:17 - 29:20Cleta: No but I mean we look we're looking
at the voter registry. -
29:20 - 29:23Again if you have additional records,
we've been asking for that, -
29:25 - 29:28but you haven't shared any of that with
us. You just keep saying you've been-- -
29:28 - 29:31Trump: Cleta, a lot of it you don't need
to be shared. -
29:31 - 29:35I mean to be honest they should share it.
-
29:35 - 29:38They should share it because you want to
get to an honest election. -
29:38 - 29:40I won this election by hundreds of
thousands of votes. -
29:40 - 29:43There's no way I lost Georgia. There's no
way. -
29:43 - 29:46We won by hundreds of thousands of votes.
-
29:46 - 29:49I'm just going by small numbers when you
add them up -
29:49 - 29:51there many times the eleven
thousand. -
29:51 - 29:54But, but I won that state by hundreds of
thousands of votes. -
29:54 - 30:00Now do you think it's possible that they
shredded ballots in Fulton County because -
30:00 - 30:02that's what the rumor is.
-
30:02 - 30:05And also that Dominion took out machines.
-
30:05 - 30:12That Dominion is really moving fast
to get rid of their machinery. -
30:12 - 30:15Do you know anything about that?
-
30:15 - 30:18because that's illegal
-
30:18 - 30:21Germany: No, Dominion has not
moved any machinery out of Fulton County. -
30:21 - 30:23we're having-
Trump: well but no but -
30:23 - 30:27but if they move--have they moved
the inner parts of the machines -
30:28 - 30:30and replaced them with other parts?
-
30:31 - 30:34Germany: No.
Trump: Are you sure Ryan? -
30:34 - 30:37Germany: I'm sure. I'm sure, Mr. President
-
30:37 - 30:39Trump: What about what about the
-
30:39 - 30:42what about the ballots, the shredding of
the ballots? -
30:42 - 30:45Have they been shredding ballots?
-
30:45 - 30:48Germany: No the only investigation that
we have into that... -
30:48 - 30:50They have not been shredding any ballots.
-
30:50 - 30:53There was an issue in Cobb County where
they were doing normal -
30:53 - 30:56you know office shredding getting rid
of old stuff, -
30:56 - 31:00and we investigated that but this is
stuff from, you know, past elections. -
31:01 - 31:02Trump: Oh I don't know...
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31:03 - 31:06It doesn't pass the smell test though.
-
31:06 - 31:09Because we hear they're shredding
thousands and thousands of ballots. -
31:10 - 31:13And now what they're saying "oh we're
just cleaning up the office." -
31:13 - 31:16You know [chuckles] I don't think that
plays. -
31:16 - 31:20Raffensperger: Mr. President, the problem
you have with social media... -
31:20 - 31:23They can...people can say anything-
Trump: No this isn't social media -
31:23 - 31:24This is Trump media.
-
31:24 - 31:27It's not social media it's it's it's
really not. It's not social media. -
31:28 - 31:31I don't care about social, but I couldn't
care less. -
31:31 - 31:34Social media is big tech. Big tech is on
your side, you know -
31:34 - 31:38I don't even know why you have a side
because you should want to have -
31:38 - 31:39an accurate election.
-
31:40 - 31:41And you're a Republican.
-
31:42 - 31:45Raffensperger: We believe that we do have
an accurate election. -
31:45 - 31:50Trump: No I, no you don't. No, no you
don't. You don't have...You don't have... -
31:50 - 31:53Not even close. You got...you're
off by hundreds of thousands of votes. -
31:53 - 31:55and just on the small numbers you're off
on these numbers. -
31:56 - 31:59and these numbers can't be just...
Well why won't... -
31:59 - 32:04Okay so you send us into Cobb County for
signature verification, right -
32:04 - 32:07you send this into Cobb County, which we
didn't want to go into, -
32:09 - 32:12and you said it would be open to the
public and we could have our-- -
32:12 - 32:15so we had our experts there. They weren't
allowed into the room. -
32:15 - 32:17But we didn't want Cobb County.
-
32:17 - 32:19We wanted Fulton County, and you wouldn't
give it to us. -
32:20 - 32:23Now, why aren't we doing signature and why
can't it be open to the public -
32:23 - 32:25and why can't we have professionals do it
-
32:25 - 32:28instead of rank amateurs that will never
find anything -
32:28 - 32:30And and don't want to find anything?
-
32:30 - 32:33They don't want to find--you
know they don't want to find anything. -
32:33 - 32:35Someday you'll tell me the reason why
-
32:35 - 32:39because I don't understand your reasoning,
but someday you'll tell me the reason why. -
32:39 - 32:41But why don't you--
-
32:41 - 32:43Raffensperger: Mr. President, we chose
Cobb County-- -
32:43 - 32:45Trump: What?
-
32:45 - 32:47Raffensperger: Sorry, go ahead
-
32:47 - 32:50Trump: Yeah, why did you okay so why did
you do Cobb County? -
32:50 - 32:53We didn't even request--we requested
Fulton County not Cobb County. -
32:55 - 32:57(inaudible)
-
32:57 - 32:59Trump: Yeah go ahead please, go ahead
-
32:59 - 33:03Raffensperger: We chose Cobb County
because that was the only county where -
33:03 - 33:06there's been any evidence submitted that
the signature verification was not -
33:06 - 33:07properly done.
-
33:07 - 33:11Trump: Well no but but I told you. But
we're not saying that. -
33:11 - 33:14We are the agreed--we're the agreed
party. -
33:14 - 33:15Fulton County--Look
-
33:16 - 33:19Stacy in my opinion, Stacy is as
dishonest as they come. -
33:20 - 33:23She has outplayed you at every heart, at
everything. -
33:24 - 33:27She got you to sign a totally
unconstitutional agreement, -
33:29 - 33:31which which is a disastrous agreement.
-
33:31 - 33:35You can't check signatures, you can't do
it. I can't imagine you're allowed to do -
33:35 - 33:37you're allowed to do harvesting, I guess.
-
33:37 - 33:41in that agree...That agreement is a
disaster for this country, and but she got -
33:41 - 33:45you somehow to sign that thing.
-
33:45 - 33:49And she is a...She's outsmarted you at
every step. -
33:50 - 33:54And I I hate to imagine what's gonna
happen on Monday or Tuesday, -
33:54 - 33:57but it's very scary to people.
-
33:57 - 34:01You know, where the ballots flow in, out
of nowhere. It's very scary to people. -
34:01 - 34:04That consent decree is a disaster. It's a
disaster. -
34:06 - 34:10A--a very good lawyer who examined it said
they've never seen anything like it. -
34:10 - 34:11And uh--
-
34:12 - 34:14Raffensperger: (inaudible)
-
34:14 - 34:16..is still illegal in the state of Georgia
-
34:16 - 34:18and that settlement agreement did not
change that one- -
34:18 - 34:21Trump: It's not a settlement agreement
it's a consent decree. -
34:21 - 34:23It even says consent decree on it
doesn't it? -
34:25 - 34:29It uses the term consent decree. It
doesn't say settlement agreement. -
34:29 - 34:32It's a consent decree. It's a disaster.
-
34:32 - 34:35Raffensperger: It's a settlement
agreement. -
34:35 - 34:38Trump: What's written on top of it?
-
34:39 - 34:40Raffensperger: Ryan?
-
34:40 - 34:44Germany: I don't have it in front of me,
but it was not entered by the court. -
34:44 - 34:45It's not a court order--
-
34:45 - 34:49Trump: No it's it's called--but Ryan
it's called the consent decree. -
34:49 - 34:51is that right on the paper?
Is that right? -
34:51 - 34:54Germany: I don't--I---I--I don't--I don't
believe so, -
34:54 - 34:56but I don't have it in front of me
-
34:56 - 34:58Trump: Ok, ok, whatever it's a disaster.
It's a disaster. -
35:00 - 35:03Look, here's the problem: we can go
through signature verification -
35:05 - 35:08and we'll find hundreds of thousands of
signatures if you let us do it. -
35:10 - 35:13And the only way you can do it, as you
know, is to go to the past. -
35:13 - 35:15But you didn't do that in Cobb County.
-
35:15 - 35:18You just looked at one page compared to
another. -
35:18 - 35:22The only way you can do a signature
verification is go from -
35:23 - 35:27the one that signed it in 20--in November
on November whatever, recently. -
35:28 - 35:32And compared to two years ago, four years
ago, six years ago, you know -
35:34 - 35:37or even one. And you'll find that you
have many different signatures. -
35:38 - 35:42But in--in Fulton, where they dumped
ballots, -
35:43 - 35:45you will find that you have many that
aren't even signed. -
35:46 - 35:48And you have many that are forgeries, ok.
-
35:49 - 35:52You know that, you know that. You have no
doubt about that. -
35:54 - 35:59And you will find--You will be at 11,779
within minutes -
36:00 - 36:03because Fulton County is totally corrupt
-
36:03 - 36:06and so is she totally corrupt.
-
36:06 - 36:12And they're going around playing you and
laughing at you behind your back Brad. -
36:13 - 36:15whether you know it or not, they're
laughing at you. -
36:16 - 36:19And you've taken a state that's a
Republican state and you've made it -
36:19 - 36:23almost impossible for a Republican to win
because of cheating. -
36:23 - 36:26Because they cheated like nobody's ever
cheated before. -
36:28 - 36:31And I don't care how long it takes me.
-
36:31 - 36:34You know, we're going to have other
states coming forward pretty good, -
36:34 - 36:38but I won't--this is never given this is--
-
36:38 - 36:42We have some incredible talent
-
36:42 - 36:43said they've never seen anything.
-
36:43 - 36:46Now the problem is they need more time
for the big numbers, -
36:46 - 36:48but they are very substantial numbers.
-
36:48 - 36:51But--and I think you're going to find
that they uh-- -
36:51 - 36:53by the way, a little information, I think
you're gonna find -
36:53 - 36:57that they are shredding ballots because
they have to get rid of the ballots -
36:57 - 36:59because the ballots are unsigned.
-
36:59 - 37:02The ballots are--are corrupt.
-
37:03 - 37:05And they're brand new. And they don't
have seals. -
37:05 - 37:07And there's a whole thing with the ballots***
-
37:07 - 37:10but the ballots are corrupt. And you're
going to find that they are, -
37:10 - 37:12which is totally illegal it's it's it's
-
37:12 - 37:14more illegal for you than it is for them
-
37:14 - 37:16because you know what they did and
-
37:16 - 37:17you're not reporting it that's a
-
37:17 - 37:20you know that's a criminal that's a
-
37:20 - 37:21criminal offense
-
37:21 - 37:23and and you know you can't let that
-
37:23 - 37:25happen that's that's a big risk
-
37:25 - 37:28to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. That's a
-
37:28 - 37:29big risk
-
37:29 - 37:32but they are shredding ballots in my opinion
-
37:32 - 37:35based on what I've heard and they are
-
37:35 - 37:37removing machinery
-
37:37 - 37:40and they're moving it as fast as they can
-
37:40 - 37:42both of which are criminal fines and you
-
37:42 - 37:44can't let it happen and you are letting
-
37:44 - 37:45it happen or you know I mean
-
37:45 - 37:48I'm notifying you that you're letting it happen
-
37:48 - 37:52so look all I want to do is this i just
-
37:52 - 37:53want to find
-
37:53 - 38:0011,780 votes
-
38:00 - 38:02which is one more that we have
-
38:02 - 38:04because we won the state and flipping
-
38:04 - 38:05the state
-
38:05 - 38:08is a great testament to our country
-
38:08 - 38:08cause
-
38:08 - 38:11you know and there's this there's just
-
38:11 - 38:13it's a testament that they can admit to
-
38:13 - 38:16a mistake or whatever you want to call
-
38:16 - 38:17it if it was a mistake i don't know
-
38:17 - 38:19a lot of people think it wasn't a
-
38:19 - 38:20mistake it was much more
-
38:20 - 38:23criminal than that but it's a big
-
38:23 - 38:25problem in Georgia and it's it's not a
-
38:25 - 38:27problem that's going away
-
38:27 - 38:28I mean you know it's not a problem
-
38:28 - 38:30that's going away
-
38:30 - 38:31and and we got it
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38:31 - 38:32Germany: This is Ryan
-
38:32 - 38:34we're looking into every one of those things
-
38:34 - 38:35that that you mentioned-
-
38:35 - 38:38Trump: but if you find them you've got to
-
38:38 - 38:39say it right
-
38:39 - 38:43(inaudible)
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38:43 - 38:45Germany: Let me tell you what we are seeing
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38:45 - 38:46Trump: Go ahead, good
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38:46 - 38:49Germany: What we're seeing is not at all
-
38:49 - 38:51what you're describing right these are
-
38:51 - 38:53investigators from our office these are
-
38:53 - 38:55investigators from
-
38:55 - 38:58GBI and they're looking and
-
38:58 - 38:59they're good
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38:59 - 39:01and that's not what they're seeing and
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39:01 - 39:03we'll keep we'll we'll keep looking
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39:03 - 39:04we'll keep looking at all of these things
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39:04 - 39:05Trump: Well you better check on the ballots
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39:05 - 39:07because they are shredding ballots
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39:07 - 39:09i'm just telling you Ryan they're
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39:09 - 39:11shredding ballots
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39:11 - 39:14and you should look at that very
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39:14 - 39:18carefully because that's so illegal
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39:18 - 39:20you know you may not even believe it
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39:20 - 39:22because it's so bad but but
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39:22 - 39:24they're shredding ballots because they
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39:24 - 39:25think we're going to eventually get
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39:25 - 39:27there because we'll eventually get into
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39:27 - 39:28Fulton
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39:28 - 39:31you know it's in my opinion it's my
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39:31 - 39:34opinion it's never too late
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39:34 - 39:39so oh so oh little double sound
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39:39 - 39:42so so that's the story
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39:42 - 39:47fellas I look we need only 11,000 votes
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39:47 - 39:47we have far
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39:47 - 39:50more than that as it stands now we'll
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39:50 - 39:50have
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39:50 - 39:53more and more and
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39:53 - 39:56do you have provisional ballots at all Brad?
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39:56 - 39:59provisional ballots
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39:59 - 40:01Raffensperger: Provisional ballots are
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40:01 - 40:02allowed you know by state law-
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40:02 - 40:03Trump: Sure, but do
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40:03 - 40:06you have them I mean are they counted or
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40:06 - 40:08did you just hold them back because they
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40:08 - 40:10you know in other words how many
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40:10 - 40:13provisional ballots do you have in the state?
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40:13 - 40:15Raffensperger: We'll get you that number
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40:15 - 40:17Trump: Because most of them are made out to the name
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40:17 - 40:18Trump
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40:18 - 40:19because these are people that were
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40:19 - 40:22scammed when they came in
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40:22 - 40:23and we have thousands of people that
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40:23 - 40:26have testified or that want to testify
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40:26 - 40:29when they came in they were proudly
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40:29 - 40:31going to vote on November 3rd
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40:31 - 40:33and they were told I'm sorry you've
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40:33 - 40:34already been voted for
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40:34 - 40:38you've already voted the women men
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40:38 - 40:40started screaming no I proudly voted
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40:40 - 40:42till November 3rd they said I'm sorry
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40:42 - 40:45but you already been voted for and you
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40:45 - 40:47have a ballot
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40:47 - 40:49and these people are beside themselves
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40:49 - 40:51so they went out and they filled in a
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40:51 - 40:52provisional ballot
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40:52 - 40:55putting the name Trump on it and what
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40:55 - 40:58about that batch of military ballots
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40:58 - 40:59that came in and even though I won the
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40:59 - 41:01military by a lot
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41:01 - 41:03it was a hundred percent Trump do you
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41:03 - 41:04know I mean 100
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41:04 - 41:07Biden do you know about that a large
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41:07 - 41:09group of ballots came in I think it was
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41:09 - 41:10to Fulton County
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41:10 - 41:12and they just happened to be a hundred
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41:12 - 41:15percent for Trump, even though, for Biden
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41:15 - 41:18even though Trump won the military by a
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41:18 - 41:18lot
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41:18 - 41:21you know a tremendous amount but these
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41:21 - 41:22ballots were 100
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41:22 - 41:25for Biden and you know about that a very
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41:25 - 41:27substantial number came in
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41:27 - 41:29all for Biden
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41:32 - 41:34does anybody know about it?
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41:34 - 41:35Cleta: I know about it
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41:35 - 41:37but we were never
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41:37 - 41:39Trump: Well okay Cleta wait I'm not asking you
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41:39 - 41:41Cleta honestly
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41:41 - 41:44I'm asking I'm asking Brad you know
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41:44 - 41:46about the military ballots that we have
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41:46 - 41:48confirmed now do you know about the
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41:48 - 41:50military ballots that came in that were
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41:50 - 41:52a hundred percent I mean a hundred
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41:52 - 41:56percent for Biden do you know about that
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41:56 - 41:58Germany: I don't know about that I do know
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41:58 - 41:59that we have
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41:59 - 42:01when when military ballots come in it's
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42:01 - 42:04not just military it's also military and
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42:04 - 42:08overseas citizens the military
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42:08 - 42:10part of that does generally go
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42:10 - 42:12Republican the overseas citizen part of it
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42:13 - 42:15generally goes very Democrat
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42:15 - 42:16Trump: No but this was
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42:16 - 42:19yeah that's okay but I get I
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42:19 - 42:21got like 78%
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42:21 - 42:23in the military these ballots were all
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42:23 - 42:24for this this they were
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42:24 - 42:26they didn't tell me overseas could be
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42:26 - 42:27overseas too but I get votes overseas
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42:27 - 42:29too Ryan you know in all fairness
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42:29 - 42:32no they came in a large batch came in
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42:32 - 42:33and it was
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42:33 - 42:36quote 100% for Biden
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42:36 - 42:40and that is criminal you know that's
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42:40 - 42:40criminal
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42:40 - 42:42okay that's another criminal that's
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42:42 - 42:44another of the many criminal events
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42:44 - 42:48many criminal events here
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42:48 - 42:51I don't know look Brad I gotta get I
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42:51 - 42:53have to find
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42:53 - 42:55twelve thousand votes and I have them
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42:55 - 42:56times
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42:56 - 42:59a lot and therefore I won the state
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42:59 - 43:02that's before we go to the next step
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43:02 - 43:04which is in the process of right now
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43:04 - 43:07you know and I watched you this morning
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43:07 - 43:08and you said
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43:08 - 43:11well there was no criminality but I I
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43:11 - 43:13mean all of this stuff is
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43:13 - 43:15is very dangerous stuff when you talk
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43:15 - 43:17about no criminality i think it's very
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43:17 - 43:18dangerous
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43:18 - 43:20for you to say that i just i just don't
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43:20 - 43:21know why
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43:21 - 43:24you don't want to have the votes counted
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43:24 - 43:27as they are like even you when you went
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43:27 - 43:29and did that check and i was surprised
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43:29 - 43:30because you know i didn't consider
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43:30 - 43:33the check and we found a few thousand
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43:33 - 43:33votes that were
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43:33 - 43:36against me I was actually surprised
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43:36 - 43:37because the way that check was done
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43:37 - 43:39all you you're doing is we you know
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43:39 - 43:40recertifying
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43:40 - 43:44existing votes and you know
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43:44 - 43:45you were given votes and you just
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43:45 - 43:47counted them up and you still found
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43:47 - 43:48three thousand that were bad
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43:48 - 43:51that was sort of surprising that came
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43:51 - 43:52down three or five
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43:52 - 43:54I don't know a lot it was still a lot of
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43:54 - 43:55votes but but
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43:55 - 43:58you have to go back to check from past
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43:58 - 43:59years
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43:59 - 44:02with respect to signatures
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44:02 - 44:04and if you check with Fulton County
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44:04 - 44:05you'll have hundreds of thousands
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44:05 - 44:07because they dumped
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44:07 - 44:09ballots into Fulton County and the other
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44:09 - 44:11county next to it
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44:11 - 44:12so what so what are we going to do here
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44:12 - 44:15folks I only need 11,000 votes
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44:15 - 44:18fellas I need 11,000 votes give me a break
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44:18 - 44:22you know we have that in spades already
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44:22 - 44:24or we can keep it going but that's not
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44:24 - 44:26fair to the voters of Georgia because
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44:26 - 44:29they're going to see what happened
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44:29 - 44:31and they're going to see what happened I
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44:31 - 44:32mean I'll
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44:32 - 44:34I'll take on anybody you want with
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44:34 - 44:37regard to Ruby Freeman and her lovely daughter
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44:37 - 44:40a very lovely young lady I'm sure but
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44:40 - 44:42Ruby Friedman. I will take Friedman
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44:42 - 44:45I will take on anybody you want and the
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44:45 - 44:47the minimum
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44:47 - 44:49there were 18,000 ballots but they used
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44:49 - 44:50them three times so that's
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44:50 - 44:53you know a lot of votes
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44:53 - 44:55and that one event and they were all
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44:55 - 44:56to Biden by the way that's the other
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44:56 - 44:57thing we didn't say
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44:57 - 45:00you know the Ruby Freeman one thing
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45:00 - 45:01I forgot to say which was the most
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45:01 - 45:02important
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45:02 - 45:04do you know that every single ballot she
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45:04 - 45:07did went to Biden you know that, right?
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45:07 - 45:10do you know that by the way Brad?
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45:10 - 45:12every single ballot that she did through
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45:12 - 45:14the machine
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45:14 - 45:18at early early in the morning
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45:18 - 45:22went to Biden did you know that Ryan?
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45:22 - 45:25Germany: That's not accurate Mr. President
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45:25 - 45:29Trump: Huh, what is accurate
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45:29 - 45:32Germany: The numbers that we are showing are
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45:32 - 45:33accurate
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45:33 - 45:36Trump: No about Ruby Freeman about about
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45:36 - 45:39early in the morning Ryan when the woman
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45:39 - 45:40took the you know when the whole gang
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45:40 - 45:41took the stuff out of the
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45:41 - 45:45from under the table right do you know
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45:45 - 45:47that though do you know who those
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45:47 - 45:48ballots you know who they were made out
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45:48 - 45:52to do you know who they were voting for?
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45:53 - 45:57Germany: No not specifically- Trump: did you ever check
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46:00 - 46:02Germany: We did what I described the (inaudible)
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46:02 - 46:04Trump: no no no did you ever check the ballots
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46:04 - 46:07that were scanned by Ruby Freeman known
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46:07 - 46:11a known political operative
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46:11 - 46:13balloter did you ever check who those
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46:13 - 46:16votes were for?
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46:16 - 46:18Germany: We've looked into that situation that
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46:18 - 46:20you described-Trump: No they were 100%
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46:20 - 46:23for Biden
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46:23 - 46:25100% there wasn't a Trump vote in
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46:25 - 46:28the whole group
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46:28 - 46:29why don't you want to find this Ryan?
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46:29 - 46:31what's wrong with you? I heard that I
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46:31 - 46:31heard
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46:31 - 46:33your lawyer is very difficult actually
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46:33 - 46:36but I'm sure you're a good lawyer
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46:36 - 46:39you have a nice last name but but I'm
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46:39 - 46:42just curious
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46:42 - 46:44why wouldn't why why do you keep
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46:44 - 46:45fighting this thing
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46:45 - 46:48it just doesn't make sense we're way
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46:48 - 46:50over the
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46:50 - 46:5217,779 right
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46:52 - 46:55we're way over that number and
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46:55 - 46:59just if you took just Ruby Freeman
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46:59 - 47:02we're over that number by five five or
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47:02 - 47:05six times when you multiply it out times three
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47:05 - 47:09and every single ballot went to
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47:09 - 47:13Biden and
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47:13 - 47:15and you didn't know that but now you
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47:15 - 47:16know it
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47:16 - 47:20so so tell me brad what are we going to do
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47:20 - 47:22we won the election and it's not fair to
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47:22 - 47:25take it away from us like this
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47:25 - 47:29and it's gotta be be very costly in many ways
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47:29 - 47:32and I think you have to say that you're
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47:32 - 47:33going to re-examine it and
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47:33 - 47:35you can re-examine it but but re-examine
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47:35 - 47:37it with people that
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47:37 - 47:38want to find answers not people that
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47:38 - 47:42don't want to find answers
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47:42 - 47:45for instance I'm hearing Ryan and he's probably
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47:46 - 47:47I'm sure a great lawyer and everything
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47:47 - 47:49but he's making statements about
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47:49 - 47:52those ballots that he doesn't know but
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47:52 - 47:53he's making him with such
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47:53 - 47:56he he did make him with surety but now I
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47:56 - 47:58think he's less sure because the answer
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47:58 - 48:00is they all went to Biden
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48:00 - 48:03and that alone wins us the election
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48:03 - 48:07by a lot you know
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48:07 - 48:12Raffensperger: Mr. President you have people that submit information
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48:12 - 48:15and we have our people that submit information
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48:15 - 48:17and then it comes before the court and
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48:17 - 48:20the court then has to make a determination
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48:20 - 48:21we have to stand by our numbers we
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48:21 - 48:23believe our numbers are right
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48:23 - 48:25Trump: Why do you say that though I don't know
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48:25 - 48:27I mean sure we can play this game with
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48:27 - 48:27the courts
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48:27 - 48:29but why do you say that first of all
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48:29 - 48:32they don't even assign us a judge
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48:32 - 48:35they don't even assign us a judge
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48:35 - 48:38but why wouldn't you if hey Brad
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48:38 - 48:42why wouldn't you want to check out Ruby Freeman
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48:42 - 48:45and why wouldn't you want to say hey if
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48:45 - 48:46if in fact
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48:46 - 48:49President Trump is right about that then
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48:49 - 48:51he wins the state of Georgia just that
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48:51 - 48:53one incident alone without going through
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48:53 - 48:56hundreds of thousands of drop ballots
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48:56 - 48:58you just say you stick by you I mean
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48:58 - 49:00I've been watching you for
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49:00 - 49:01you know you don't care about anything
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49:01 - 49:03your numbers are right
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49:03 - 49:05but your numbers aren't right they're
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49:05 - 49:08really wrong and they're really wrong Brad
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49:08 - 49:09and I know this phone call's going
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49:09 - 49:11nowhere other than
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49:11 - 49:14other than ultimately you know
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49:14 - 49:18look ultimately I win ok? Because-
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49:18 - 49:19Cleta: But Mr. Secretary (inaudible)
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49:19 - 49:21Trump: You guys are so wrong and you've treated
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49:21 - 49:23this you've treated the population of
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49:23 - 49:25Georgia so badly
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49:25 - 49:27you between you and your governor who
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49:27 - 49:29wouldn't who was down at 21
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49:29 - 49:33he was down 21 points and like a schmuck
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49:33 - 49:36I endorsed him and got he got elected but
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49:36 - 49:39I will tell you he's a disaster and
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49:39 - 49:40he'll never
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49:40 - 49:43I can't imagine the people are so angry
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49:43 - 49:44in Georgia I can't imagine
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49:44 - 49:45he's ever getting elected again I'll
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49:45 - 49:47tell you that much right now
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49:47 - 49:49but but why wouldn't you want to find
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49:49 - 49:51the right answer Brad instead of
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49:51 - 49:54keep saying that the numbers are right
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49:54 - 49:59because those numbers are so wrong
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49:59 - 50:01Cleta: Mr. Secretary, Mr. President, I mean one of
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50:01 - 50:02the things that
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50:02 - 50:05we have been Alex can talk about this
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50:05 - 50:07we've talked about it
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50:07 - 50:09and I don't know whether the information
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50:09 - 50:10has been conveyed to
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50:10 - 50:13your office but I think what the
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50:13 - 50:14president's saying
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50:14 - 50:16what we've been trying to do is to say
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50:16 - 50:18look the court is not
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50:18 - 50:20acting on our petition they haven't even
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50:20 - 50:21assigned a judge
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50:21 - 50:23but the people of Georgia and the people
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50:23 - 50:25of America have a right to know
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50:25 - 50:28the answers and you have data and
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50:28 - 50:31records that we don't have access to
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50:31 - 50:33and you keep telling us and making
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50:33 - 50:34public statements
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50:34 - 50:36that you've investigated this and you
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50:36 - 50:38know nothing to see here
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50:38 - 50:41but we don't know about that all we know
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50:41 - 50:43is what you tell us
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50:43 - 50:44what I don't understand is why it
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50:44 - 50:47wouldn't be in everyone's best interest
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50:47 - 50:51to try to
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50:51 - 50:54get to the bottom compare the numbers
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50:54 - 50:55you know if you say
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50:55 - 50:59because if to try to be able to get to
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50:59 - 51:02the truth and that we because
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51:02 - 51:06we don't have any way of confirming
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51:06 - 51:09what you're telling us you tell us that
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51:09 - 51:10you've had an investigation of the State
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51:10 - 51:12Farm Arena
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51:12 - 51:14I I don't have any report I've never
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51:14 - 51:16seen a reported investigation I don't
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51:16 - 51:18know what that is
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51:18 - 51:20I've been pretty involved in this and I
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51:20 - 51:22don't know and that's just
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51:22 - 51:26one of like 25 categories
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51:26 - 51:28and it doesn't even and and as I as the
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51:28 - 51:30president said we haven't even
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51:30 - 51:33gotten into the Dominion issue that's
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51:33 - 51:36not part of our case it's not part of
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51:36 - 51:37we we just didn't feel as though we had
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51:37 - 51:39any way
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51:39 - 51:41to be able to develop- Trump: No we do have a
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51:41 - 51:44way but I don't want to get into it
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51:44 - 51:46have we found a way in other states
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51:46 - 51:48Cleta, excuse me but we don't need it
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51:48 - 51:50because we're only down 11,000 votes so
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51:50 - 51:53we don't even need it
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51:53 - 51:55I personally think they're corrupt as
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51:55 - 51:57hell but we don't need that
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51:57 - 51:59because all we have to do Cleta is find
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51:59 - 52:0111,000 plus votes
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52:01 - 52:05so we don't need that I'm not looking to
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52:05 - 52:07to shake up the whole world we won
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52:07 - 52:09Georgia easily
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52:09 - 52:11we won it by hundreds of thousands of
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52:11 - 52:12votes but if you go by
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52:12 - 52:16basic simple numbers we won it easily, easily
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52:16 - 52:19so we're not giving Dominion a pass
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52:19 - 52:20on the record
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52:20 - 52:23Cleta: No, right exactly Trump: but we just don't you know
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52:23 - 52:24we don't need Dominion because we have
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52:24 - 52:26so many other votes
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52:26 - 52:28that we don't need to prove it any more
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52:28 - 52:30than we already have
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52:30 - 52:33Hillberg: Mr. President, Cleta this is Kurt Hillberg if I might
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52:33 - 52:37inject here for a moment. Ryan, I
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52:37 - 52:38would like to suggest
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52:38 - 52:41that just four categories that have
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52:41 - 52:43already been mentioned by the president
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52:43 - 52:48that have actually hard numbers of 24,149 votes
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52:48 - 52:50that were counted illegally
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52:50 - 52:52that in and of itself is sufficient to
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52:52 - 52:54change the results or place the outcome
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52:54 - 52:55in doubt
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52:55 - 52:57we would like to just sit down with
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52:57 - 52:58your office and we can do it through
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52:58 - 53:00purposes of compromising
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53:00 - 53:02settlement just like this phone call
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53:02 - 53:04just to deal with that limited category
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53:04 - 53:05of votes
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53:05 - 53:07and if you were able to establish that
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53:07 - 53:09our numbers are not accurate
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53:09 - 53:12then fine. However, we believe that they
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53:12 - 53:13are accurate we've had
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53:13 - 53:16now three to four separate experts look
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53:16 - 53:17at these numbers
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53:17 - 53:19these numbers are based upon the USPF and
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53:19 - 53:21Trump: certified certified accountants looked
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53:21 - 53:22at 'em
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53:22 - 53:25correct and this is just based on USPF
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53:25 - 53:28data and your own Secretary of State data
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53:28 - 53:31so that's what we would entreat and ask
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53:31 - 53:33you to do to sit down with us
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53:33 - 53:37in a compromise and settlements you know
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53:37 - 53:40proceeding and actually go through the
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53:40 - 53:41registered voter IDs and the
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53:41 - 53:42registrations
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53:42 - 53:46and if you can convince us that that 24,149
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53:46 - 53:48is inaccurate then fine
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53:48 - 53:51but we we tend to believe that that is
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53:51 - 53:54you know obviously more than 11,779
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53:54 - 53:56that's sufficient to change the
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53:56 - 53:59results entirely in and of itself so
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53:59 - 54:03what would you say to that Mr. Germany?
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54:03 - 54:06Germany: Kurt, I'm happy to
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54:06 - 54:08I'll get with our lawyers and we'll set
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54:08 - 54:09that up
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54:09 - 54:11that number is not accurate and I think
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54:11 - 54:13we can show you for all the ones we've
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54:13 - 54:14looked at
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54:14 - 54:17why it's not and so if that
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54:17 - 54:19that would be helpful I'm happy to get
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54:19 - 54:20with our lawyers and set that up with
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54:20 - 54:22you guys
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54:22 - 54:25Trump: Well let me ask you Kurt, do you think that is an
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54:25 - 54:26accurate number
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54:26 - 54:28that was based on the information given
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54:28 - 54:30to you by the Secretary of State's
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54:30 - 54:31department right?
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54:31 - 54:33Hillberg: that that is correct that that
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54:33 - 54:35information is the minimum most
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54:35 - 54:36conservative data
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54:36 - 54:39based upon the USPF data and the
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54:39 - 54:41Secretary of State's office data
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54:41 - 54:42that has been made publicly available we
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54:42 - 54:44do not have the internal numbers from
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54:44 - 54:45the secretary of state
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54:45 - 54:48yet we have asked for it six times I've
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54:48 - 54:49sent a letter over to Mr. Anolewitz
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54:49 - 54:51several times requesting this
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54:51 - 54:53information and it's been rebuffed every
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54:53 - 54:55single time so
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54:55 - 54:57it stands to reason that if the
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54:57 - 54:58information is not worth company
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54:58 - 55:00forthcoming there's something to hide
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55:00 - 55:04that's the problem that we have
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55:04 - 55:05Raffensperger: Well that's not the case there are
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55:05 - 55:07things that that you guys are
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55:07 - 55:08are entitled to get and there's things
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55:08 - 55:10that under law we are not allowed to give out
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55:10 - 55:12Trump: Well you have to well under
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55:12 - 55:13law you're not allowed to give
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55:13 - 55:16faulty election results okay you're not
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55:16 - 55:17allowed to do that and that's what
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55:17 - 55:18you've done
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55:18 - 55:22this is a faulty election result and honestly
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55:22 - 55:23this should go very fast you should meet
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55:23 - 55:26tomorrow because you have a big election
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55:26 - 55:28election coming up and because of what
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55:28 - 55:29you've done to the president you know
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55:29 - 55:31the people of
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55:31 - 55:33Georgia know that this was a scam and
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55:33 - 55:34because of what you've done to the
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55:34 - 55:36president a lot of people aren't going
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55:36 - 55:37out to vote
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55:37 - 55:39and a lot of Republicans are going to
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55:39 - 55:41vote negative because they hate what you
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55:41 - 55:42did to the president
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55:42 - 55:44okay they hate it and they're going to
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55:44 - 55:46vote and if you would be
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55:46 - 55:49respected if really respected if this
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55:49 - 55:51thing could be straightened out
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55:51 - 55:53before the election you have a big
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55:53 - 55:56election coming up on Tuesday
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55:56 - 55:58and therefore I think that it really is
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55:58 - 56:00important that you meet tomorrow and
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56:00 - 56:02work out on these numbers
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56:02 - 56:05because I know Brad that if if you think
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56:05 - 56:07we're right I think you're going to say
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56:07 - 56:09and and I'm not looking to blame anybody
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56:09 - 56:11I'm not blaming I'm just saying that
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56:11 - 56:14you know you know under new counts and
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56:14 - 56:16under new
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56:16 - 56:19views of of the election results we won
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56:19 - 56:20the election
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56:20 - 56:22it's all you know it's very simple we
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56:22 - 56:24won the election
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56:24 - 56:26as the governor of major states and the
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56:26 - 56:28surrounding states said
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56:28 - 56:31there is no way you lost Georgia as the
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56:31 - 56:32Georgia politicians
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56:32 - 56:35say there is no way you lost Georgia
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56:35 - 56:37nobody everyone knows I won it by
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56:37 - 56:38hundreds of thousands of votes
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56:38 - 56:40but I'll tell you it's going to have a
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56:40 - 56:42big impact on Tuesday if you guys don't
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56:42 - 56:45get this thing straightened out fast
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56:45 - 56:47Mark: Well Mr. President this is Mark let me
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56:47 - 56:49let me just it sounds like we've got
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56:49 - 56:52two different sides agreeing that
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56:52 - 56:56we can look at those those areas and
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56:56 - 56:58and i assume that we can do that within
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56:58 - 56:59the next 24
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56:59 - 57:02to 48 hours to go ahead and get that
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57:02 - 57:04reconciled so that we can look at the
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57:04 - 57:05two claims
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57:05 - 57:07and making sure that we get the access
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57:07 - 57:09to the secretary of state's data
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57:09 - 57:11to either validate or invalidate the
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57:11 - 57:15claims that have been made is that correct?
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57:15 - 57:17Raffensperger: No, that's that's not what I said I'm
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57:17 - 57:19happy to you know sit down with or have
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57:19 - 57:21our lawyers sit down with curtin
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57:21 - 57:23and and the lawyers on on that side and
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57:23 - 57:25explain to him hey here's
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57:25 - 57:27based on what we've looked at so far
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57:27 - 57:29here's how we know
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57:29 - 57:30this is wrong this is wrong this is
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57:30 - 57:32wrong this is wrong this is wrong
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57:32 - 57:34what you're saying ryan hold on let me
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57:34 - 57:35let me make sure so what you're saying
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57:35 - 57:38is you really don't want to give access
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57:38 - 57:39to the data
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57:39 - 57:42you just want to make another case on
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57:42 - 57:42why
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57:42 - 57:46the lawsuit is wrong i don't think we
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57:46 - 57:48i don't think we can give access to data
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57:48 - 57:50that's protected by law
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57:50 - 57:51but we can sit down with them and say
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57:51 - 57:54you're allowed to have a phony election
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57:54 - 57:55you're allowed to have a phony election
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57:55 - 57:57right no sir
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57:57 - 57:59what are you what are you going to do
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57:59 - 58:00the signature counts on when are you
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58:00 - 58:03going to do signature verification on
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58:03 - 58:05fulton county which you said you were
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58:05 - 58:06going to do and now all of a sudden
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58:06 - 58:08you're not doing it when are you doing
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58:08 - 58:10that
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58:10 - 58:13mr president we've announced to get to
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58:13 - 58:14this issue of the
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58:14 - 58:17personal information and privacy issue
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58:17 - 58:17um
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58:17 - 58:19is it possible that the secretary of
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58:19 - 58:21state could deputize the lawyers
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58:21 - 58:23for the president so that we could
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58:23 - 58:25access that information that private
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58:25 - 58:27information without you having any kind
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58:27 - 58:29of violation
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58:29 - 58:31well i don't want to know who it is you
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58:31 - 58:32guys can do it very confidentially you
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58:32 - 58:35can sign a confidentiality agreement
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58:35 - 58:38that's okay i don't need to know names
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58:38 - 58:41all right but we got the information on
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58:41 - 58:43this stuff that we're talking about
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58:43 - 58:45we got all that information from the
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58:45 - 58:48secretary of state
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58:48 - 58:51yeah so let me let me recommend uh Ryan
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58:51 - 58:54if you and Kurt will get together and
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58:54 - 58:55you know when we get off of this phone
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58:55 - 58:57call if you could get together
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58:57 - 59:00and work out uh a plan to
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59:00 - 59:04to address uh some of what we've we've
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59:04 - 59:05got with your attorneys
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59:05 - 59:07where we can we can actually look at the
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59:07 - 59:08data
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59:08 - 59:12uh uh for example uh Mr. secretary I I
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59:12 - 59:13can tell you you said there was only two
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59:13 - 59:16dead people that would vote uh i i can
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59:16 - 59:18promise you there are more than that uh
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59:18 - 59:20and that may be what your investigation
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59:20 - 59:22shows but i can promise you there are
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59:22 - 59:23more than that
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59:23 - 59:26but at the same time i think it's
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59:26 - 59:27important that we go ahead and move
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59:27 - 59:29expeditiously to try to do this and
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59:29 - 59:32resolve it as quickly as we possibly can
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59:32 - 59:35and uh and if that's the good next step
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59:35 - 59:38hopefully we can we can uh
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59:38 - 59:41finish this phone call and go ahead and
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59:41 - 59:42agree that the two of you will get
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59:42 - 59:43together immediately
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59:43 - 59:45but why don't my lawyer show you where
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59:45 - 59:48you got the information it'll show the
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59:48 - 59:49secretary of state
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59:49 - 59:50and you don't even have to look at any
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59:50 - 59:53names we don't want names we don't care
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59:53 - 59:56but we got that information from you
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59:56 - 59:59and Stacy Abrams is laughing about you
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59:59 - 60:00know she's going around saying these
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60:00 - 60:03guys are dumber than a rock
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60:03 - 60:04what she's done to this party is
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60:04 - 60:07unbelievable i tell you
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60:07 - 60:09and I only ran against her once and that
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60:09 - 60:10was with a guy named Brian Kemp
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60:10 - 60:14and I beat her and if I didn't run
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60:14 - 60:15Brian wouldn't have had even a shot
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60:15 - 60:18either in the general or in the primary
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60:18 - 60:20he was dead dead at a door nail he never
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60:20 - 60:22thought he had a shot at either one of
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60:22 - 60:23'em
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60:23 - 60:26what a schmuck I was but that's the way
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60:26 - 60:26it is
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60:26 - 60:30that's the way it is uh I would like you
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60:30 - 60:30to
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60:30 - 60:33uh uh for the attorneys or I'd like you
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60:33 - 60:34to
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60:34 - 60:37perhaps meet with Ryan ideally tomorrow
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60:37 - 60:38because I think we should come to a
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60:38 - 60:40resolution of this before the election
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60:40 - 60:42otherwise you could have
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60:42 - 60:44you're going to have people just not
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60:44 - 60:46voting they don't want to vote they
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60:46 - 60:48hate the state they hate the governor
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60:48 - 60:51and they hate the secretary of state
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60:51 - 60:54I will tell you that right now and the
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60:54 - 60:55only people that like you are people
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60:55 - 60:56that will never vote
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60:56 - 60:58for you you know that Brad right they
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60:58 - 60:59like you you know
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60:59 - 61:00they like you they can't believe what
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61:00 - 61:02they found they want more people like
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61:02 - 61:04you
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61:04 - 61:06so look uh can you get together tomorrow
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61:06 - 61:08and Brad we just want the truth
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61:08 - 61:12it's simple and uh
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61:12 - 61:14and everyone's gonna look very good if
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61:14 - 61:16the truth comes out it's okay it takes a
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61:16 - 61:17little while but
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61:17 - 61:20let the truth come out and the truth the
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61:20 - 61:23real truth is I won by 400 000 votes at
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61:23 - 61:24least
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61:24 - 61:26that's the real truth but we don't need
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61:26 - 61:29400 000 votes we need
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61:29 - 61:33less than 2 000 votes and
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61:33 - 61:38are you guys able to meet tomorrow Ryan
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61:38 - 61:40um I'll get with Chris the lawyer who's
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61:40 - 61:41representing us
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61:41 - 61:44in the case uh and see when he can get
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61:44 - 61:46together with Kurt
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61:46 - 61:48all right Ryan will be in touch with
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61:48 - 61:50that the other attorney on this call
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61:50 - 61:53Mr. Meadows thank you President Trump for
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61:53 - 61:54your time
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61:54 - 61:56okay thank you Brad thank you Ryan thank
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61:56 - 61:57you thank you everybody
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