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[ Music ]
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[Narrator] It's a long way from the classroom
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to that first job interview.
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And for students with disabilities,
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there may be some awkward moments when they get there.
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[Interviewer] Tell me.
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How did you happen to go blind?
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[Interviewer] Gosh, you're such an inspiration.
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But computer programming's really demanding.
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[Interviewer] So you probably can't use a computer, right?
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'Cause you're crippled, right?
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[Interviewer] So, how'd you happen to go blind?
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[Interviewer] Don't you get sick a lot?
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[Interviewer] Right?
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[Interviewer] Hmmm, tell me.
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How'd you happen to go blind?
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[Narrator] Well, of course they aren't supposed
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to ask those questions.
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As a career counselor
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or work-based learning coordinator, you know that.
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But it does happen, and some potential employers may be
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thinking those things even though they'd never say them.
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Learning to deal with employers' concerns
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and assumptions is essential.
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[Randy] Interviews, to begin with, are a game in psychology.
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You're showing them that you are the greatest thing in the world
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and they want you so badly that they can't stand it.
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For the disabled person it's a little more tricky,
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because you have to prove to them
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that you are the hottest thing in the world
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and they can't stand not having you,
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and you can do the job even though you have the disability.
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[Co-worker] Did you want to do the Airborne thing tonight?
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[Todd] Yes, let's get it together before I go.
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[Co-worker] Okay, I'll be here for a little bit longer.
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[Todd] Okay, great.
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[Co-worker] All right.
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[Todd] Thanks.
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[Co-worker] See you, Todd.
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[Narrator] The ADA, or American with Disabilities Act,
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prohibits discrimination in the workplace.
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[ Phone dialing beeps ]
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[Narrator] People with disabilities need to be aware
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of their legal rights.
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But they also have to consider the impact of their disabilities
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as they plan their career-seeking strategies.
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You can help with that process.
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[Vic] We've found that internships, co-op programs,
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and other work-based programs are very effective in terms
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of students learning how to interview, learning how and when
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to disclose disabilities,
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and learning what accommodations students might need
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in different work situations.
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[Supervisor] There's this mailing project
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that I need you to work on.
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[Minda] Okay.
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[Supervisor] It's going to go to about 20 or 30 people?
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[Narrator] Unfortunately,
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students with disabilities don't enter work-based learning
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programs as often as other students.
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Inclusion in those programs may take some specific
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recruiting efforts.
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[Minda] I think students with disabilities think that maybe
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that those opportunities aren't for them,
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that maybe that those programs internships
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or things aren't geared toward people with disabilities,
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so maybe they just don't want to apply or think
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that they're applicable.
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[Narrator] One way to reach those students is
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to ask the Disabled Student Services Office
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to help you advertise your activities and services.
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They might be able to distribute information about your programs
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and connect you to student groups
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that would appreciate a presentation.
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Then, once you have people's attention, they have to be able
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to access your services.
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Your clients may have learning, visual, hearing, speech,
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or mobility impairments.
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Taking steps to make sure your facilities, services,
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and resources are welcoming and accessible to individuals
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with a broad range
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of characteristics is an application
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of the principles of universal design.
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For example:
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[Narrator] Using electronic formats may help make your
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materials more accessible,
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but there are challenges there as well.
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For people who are blind, critical information presented
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as graphics must be duplicated in a text format to be readable
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by speech output software.
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[Computer] At first,
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the quaternions were regarded as pathological.
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[Narrator] And for students who are deaf,
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audio information must be captioned or transcribed.
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The important thing is to plan ahead,
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to know how to produce materials
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in alternative formats before someone needs them.
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Be prepared to produce them quickly when asked.
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[Dyane] What is essential is that you do know how to go
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about getting those accommodations in place
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in a timely manner when they're requested.
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And a real good resource for that,
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for the Career Services Office,
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is the Disabled Student Services Office.
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They can contact that office any time
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and they'll help them figure out how to fulfill
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that requested accommodation.
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[Narrator] And then think about how you can work effectively
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with a person who has a disability.
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Here are some tips for success:
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[Dyane] When a student with a disability goes to any office
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on campus, but certainly the Center for Career Services,
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you'd want to treat them like you would any other student,
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provide them with the same services
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as you would any other student,
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have the same expectations as any other student.
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However, if the student has disability-related needs,
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you'd certainly want to consider them
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as you provide them the service and respond accordingly.
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[Interviewer] Can you give me an example of how,
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when you're working with the Big Brothers & Sisters,
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if there was a conflict between two of the children,
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how did you resolve it?
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[Narrator] Events outside your office need
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to be accessible, too.
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These may include interviewing workshops like this one,
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career fairs, and interviews between students and employers.
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[Interviewer] What kind of a background do you have
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that gets you interested in robotics?
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[Dyane] The Center for Career Services Office is responsible
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for providing any kind of requested accommodations
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that a student asks for, but it is the student's responsibility
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to request the accommodation, because the Center
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for Career Services folks won't know what the student is needing
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unless the student asks.
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[Narrator] In advertising your event,
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include a notice indicating who to contact
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to request disability-related accommodations.
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Some requests might include:
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[Narrator] For its own events,
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the Career Center would provide the accommodations.
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For employer interviews, even on campus, it's different.
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[Vic] The employer would provide the accommodations.
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In fact, we have had employers in the past
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who have interviewed students in our offices here,
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if it's for their business,
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we let them know what the opportunities are on campus
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to provide, say, an interpreter.
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They have the option to take advantage of that,
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or they can bring their own interpreter.
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But they would be the ones who would cover the cost.
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[Student] What should I be doing?
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[counselor] Well, it's just recognizing, first of all,
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that the transferrable kinds of skills?
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[Narrator] You can work with students on how and when
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to present those accommodation needs.
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However, if you want to talk to an employer
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about a specific student's disability,
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get written permission from the student first.
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[Vic] Employers are looking for skilled people.
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Whether they have disabilities or not, if people come
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across to them as someone who has strengths and abilities
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that will benefit their business,
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that's what they care about.
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They want people who are skilled.
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And if a student gets that across they're halfway there.
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[Narrator] The disability itself isn't supposed
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to be part of the job interview.
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Accommodations should be discussed
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after an offer of employment.
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But for students with obvious disabilities,
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this timing doesn't always work.
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It's an individual choice.
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[Caller] Thanks, Todd.
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Do appreciate it.
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[Todd] You're welcome, man.
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[Caller] Have a good afternoon
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[Todd] You too, bud.
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[Caller] Bye, bye [Todd] Bye bye.
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[Narrator] At Todd Stabelfeldt's first interview,
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it took a great flurry of activity,
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including moving the Interviewer's desk,
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to accommodate his wheelchair.
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Then, the first thing they talked
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about was Todd's disability.
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Todd prefers to get the discussion
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out of the way immediately.
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[Todd] It's a good icebreaker.
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People want to know.
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This is obviously an attraction.
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They're interested; they want to know as humans.
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And so I find that it's real easy for me to talk about it.
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I'll get it out in the open and get it over with,
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and then we can move on with our conversation.
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I don't mind, you know.
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[Interviewer] It looks like you've done a lot of fundraising
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with some non-profits.
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Can you tell me about that?
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[Applicant] Yes, I've handled many different tasks,
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ranging from building and maintaining databases to --
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[Narrator] Each situation and each student is different.
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It's the individual's choice whether
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to disclose a disability during the job interview.
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Once a student has a job, accommodations may be necessary.
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Work-based learning offers the opportunity
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to determine what those accommodations might be,
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and then to work with employers
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to implement those accommodations.
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[Todd] One, I obviously can't open the door.
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So basically, you know, you can set up automatic doors off
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of switches and things, so they set that up for my wheelchair,
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and that's how I open the door at home and at the office.
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And as far as computer working, it's real simple;
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on-screen keyboard with sort of a stick mouse sip and puff,
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you know, one puff single click, two puffs double click;
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and that's what I use.
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And then just a simple book stand and mouth wand
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for magazine turning, paper turning.
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And that's really it.
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[Narrator] Companies are responsible
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for providing reasonable accommodations
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to their employees with disabilities.
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In work-based learning placements, however, schools
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and businesses should work together to determine
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who will be financially responsible for accommodations.
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To help students and employers choose reasonable
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accommodations, you can use this four-step process:
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[Dyane] Ultimately, the student
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with the disability has the best knowledge
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about what their needs are.
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However, if students have not yet been in the workplace,
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they may not have a good idea about what they need
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and what's available to them.
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[ Music ]
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[Narrator] Finally, and most important,
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have high expectations for students with disabilities.
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Expect success.
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More and more people with disabilities are going
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to college, and you have the opportunity
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to help them meet their career goals.
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[ Music ]
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