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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:02.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Benjamin Higginbotham\Nwith TechnologyEvangelist.com.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.69,0:00:06.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With me, I've got Nicholas once again,\Nfrom a Participatory Culture Foundation.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.91,0:00:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are the guys who make \N"Democracy Player".
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.17,0:00:11.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Nicholas, welcome!\N-Hi, how are ya?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.48,0:00:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doing great, how about yourself?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.50,0:00:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Amazing, thanks.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.74,0:00:19.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you guys are on the cusp of\Nreleasing Democracy Player 0.9.5,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.95,0:00:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it just kinda rolls right off the tongue.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.94,0:00:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell us a bit about this new release.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.60,0:00:27.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, this is a big update for us,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.66,0:00:31.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the biggest update you'll see before\Nour 1.0 comes out.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.77,0:00:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a lot of important stuff in here,\Na lot of it's behind the scenes,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.78,0:00:40.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but some of the stuff you'll notice\Nis a redesigned interface,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.49,0:00:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's smoother and simpler and slicker.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.94,0:00:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have some nice things like\Nthe MAC users,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.23,0:00:50.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it will generate thumbnails automatically.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.85,0:00:54.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you want to download a video and\Ndon't have that yet for Windows or Linux,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.68,0:00:57.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's something that \Nwe're definitely working on.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.12,0:00:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's proxy support,\Nbetter BitTorrent support.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.45,0:01:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It does a better job resuming downloads\Nif something gets interrupted.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.82,0:01:10.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all in all, I just think it's a\Nsmoother and cleaner experience,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.04,0:01:13.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's a big step towards\Nthe update coming out.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.85,0:01:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, one thing I noticed is that as\Neach build keeps getting released,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.89,0:01:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the system seems to use less and less\NRAM, and get faster and faster and faster
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.70,0:01:24.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in its ability to playback files\Nand download files.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.75,0:01:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Cause I remember working with the beta,\NI think it was 0.8 or something like that,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.66,0:01:30.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was a pretty big RAM hog.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.24,0:01:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How are you coming on with the\Noptimisation of Democracy at this point?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.12,0:01:39.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's definitely a big focus for us as \Nyou know with the past few versions
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.85,0:01:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've done a lot to reduce the number use,\Nimprove the speed and that's
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.61,0:01:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be something\Nthat we continue to work on.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.98,0:01:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not clear right now whether we will\Nbe doing some big changes before
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.99,0:01:56.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or after 1.0, but, you know, over the next\N6 months we're going to continue to see
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.24,0:02:01.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much better performance, but using less\Nresources, feeling faster more responsive.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.45,0:02:04.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we have to see that as important.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.56,0:02:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You mentioned that this is one, at least\NI believe you mentioned, that this is
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.55,0:02:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the final releases before 1.0,\Nor at least close to your road to 1.0.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.92,0:02:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do we have left to get to 1.0?\NWhat can we expect in 1.0?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.50,0:02:26.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The big thing that you'll see in 1.0 is\Nstability and we'll be doing a lot of
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.54,0:02:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bug fixing, trying to nail down some of \Nthe last final bugs that we haven't been
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.07,0:02:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to fix so far. The biggest challenge\Non our end for that is just being able to
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.06,0:02:41.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reproduce the bugs; finding a system\Nwhere we can see it happen because there
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.90,0:02:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are so many different kinds of setups out\Nthere that a bug may only happen in
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.55,0:02:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those specific circumstances, and that\Nmakes it hard for us to track it down
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.12,0:02:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fix it. Once we see it happening, you\Nknow, we can always fix it, and so
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.81,0:02:57.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stability, fixing bugs is definitely the\Nbiggest priority.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.68,0:03:01.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's also just a few finishing\Ntouches - we wanna make easier for
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.93,0:03:05.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people to use remote controls with\NDemocracy Player if they have something
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.89,0:03:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like that. I have a few more ways that\Npeople can customise and interact with it,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.29,0:03:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's mostly gonna be cleanup around\Nthe edges, but I think it'll feel
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.89,0:03:17.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a more complete experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.03,0:03:21.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the biggest things that's about to\Nhappen is we're going to be renaming
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.73,0:03:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Democracy Player and we've found a lot\Nof people get confused by the name and
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.72,0:03:33.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they first hear about it they think\Nthat it only has content related to
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.42,0:03:37.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,politics on it, which is definitely not\Nthe case and not what we intended with
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.25,0:03:43.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the name, so we feel like it's important\Nfor us to find a new name. We have one
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.08,0:03:47.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we think is gonna work, we're just\Ngoing through some legal stuff and we're
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.80,0:03:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously getting a new icon and\Nwebsite design so as part of that
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.90,0:04:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1.0 process we're gonna be launching a \Nnew name, new style for the player and
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.30,0:04:01.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's gonna be big too.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.58,0:04:07.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the final thing, and what I think is\Nthe weakest part of the Democracy Player
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.07,0:04:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experience is the channel guide; we're\Nrewriting that from scratch.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.25,0:04:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The version you see now is based on some\Nexisting software that is out there and
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.06,0:04:17.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't exactly meet our needs.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.01,0:04:20.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what we're doing is starting over from\Nscratch, making something very fast,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.67,0:04:25.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very responsive and once we have a \Ngood foundation built
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.73,0:04:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're going to be doing a lot of work to\Nadd a rating system, find more ways to
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.58,0:04:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trickle off the best content.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.63,0:04:38.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As we've seen the channel guides reach\Nnearly a thousand different channels,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.58,0:04:42.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it becomes more and more important for us\Nto find ways of filtering the best stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.76,0:04:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we wanna make it easier for people to\Nshare channels, rate channels,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.81,0:04:50.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see what people really like and not\Njust subscribe to stuff that looks
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.01,0:04:53.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attractive on the surface or on the guide.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.61,0:04:58.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It feels like the next natural extension\Nfor Democracy Player's gonna get is
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.23,0:05:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PNP support such as PlayStation portable,\Nthe video iPod or other small portable
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.84,0:05:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,video players and I know that's not \Ncurrently a feature of Democracy Player,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.92,0:05:10.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at least the ability to take the videos\Nthat I've downloaded and push it to these
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.79,0:05:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other devices, mainly because it's\Nextremely complex.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.77,0:05:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The video iPod is going to take a totally\Ndifferent video format than the PSP which
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.15,0:05:22.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is going to take a totally different\Nformat than a Place4sure mobile device.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.98,0:05:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that on your roadmap to add, and is\Nthat gonna be a 1.0 feature or later?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.40,0:05:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how are you gonna deal with that?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.24,0:05:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, syncing portable devices like that\Nis definitely something we wanna do.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.12,0:05:38.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not gonna happen for 1.0.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.62,0:05:45.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We feel like our mission for 1.0 is to\Nmake a solid and excellent desktop app
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.97,0:05:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you can use every day\Nand really rely upon.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.32,0:05:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what we wanna do for 1.0; \Nget a good foundation in place.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.46,0:05:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From there we'd like to see\NDemocracy Player be able to get us
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.10,0:06:01.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,content out on more different devices,\Nget it onto your TV more easily,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.36,0:06:05.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on any portable devices that you're using.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.76,0:06:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we're going to start tackling that.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.92,0:06:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It may come in stages and it may \Nmean that we start with the ability to
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.72,0:06:17.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sync to the most powerful devices to sync\Nfile formats that they already play.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.02,0:06:22.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, later on, we add the ability to\Ntransfer from one format into another,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.65,0:06:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so more of your videos are able to \Nplay under iPod, for example.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.96,0:06:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's definitely coming for us.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.32,0:06:37.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nicholas, last time we talked, we actually\Nwent to you and that time, iTunes was
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.77,0:06:40.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one version lower and it didn't have\Ngood video support.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.00,0:06:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since then, iTunes has added a whole new\Nvideo catalog, you have episodes of
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.68,0:06:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shows and movies and whatnot, and they've \Nchanged the way they deal with video.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.97,0:06:56.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How does that compete with Democracy?\NDoes it compete with Democracy?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.33,0:07:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And why are you better and different\Nthan iTunes on that front?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.66,0:07:07.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, iTunes has made some improvements\Nto the video software but the focus they
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.38,0:07:12.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have is really on accumulating \Na collection of videos, for example,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.12,0:07:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movies that you buy off of the store,\Nmusic videos that you buy from the store,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.41,0:07:19.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and accumulating a \Ncertain kind of collection.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.88,0:07:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our focus is more on \Nthe flow of the internet.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.00,0:07:27.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The flow of videos that is becoming\Nmore and more a part of peoples'
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.29,0:07:28.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,online experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.92,0:07:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we're really offering\Nan experience that's very different and
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.40,0:07:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goes way beyond the approach \Nthat iTunes pitched.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.72,0:07:43.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The channel model that we have really\Nlets you handle lots of videos coming in.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.78,0:07:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Seeing what's on a variety of channels,\Norganising that in different ways and
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.96,0:07:55.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we still have them beat\Nin terms of video experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.66,0:08:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From a publisher standpoint, I think the\Nbig differentiator between Democracy
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.31,0:08:01.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and iTunes is torrent support.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.71,0:08:07.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can directly download a torrent\Nvideo file and as I'm publishing my
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.09,0:08:12.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,high-definition 1080p videos, which we do,\Nthe bandwidth is taken off of me and so
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.50,0:08:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now I no longer pay for the full\Ndistribution of the file,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.22,0:08:16.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or maybe a little bit now.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.49,0:08:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that's really one of the big,\Npowerful features of Democracy.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.95,0:08:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You guys get kudos for having that\Nfrom the beginning.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.54,0:08:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's really what makes you guys\Ndifferent and stand out from the
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.68,0:08:28.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rest of the crowd.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.22,0:08:32.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I think that the BitTorrent support\Nthat we have is definitely something that
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.46,0:08:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,iTunes can't compete with and we also have\Na lot more flexibility with video formats.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.64,0:08:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both on Mac and Windows now, both able to\Nplay Flash video files which are the most
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.32,0:08:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,popular online video files now.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.83,0:08:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a lot bigger variety of formats than\Nyou can play on iTunes or
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.52,0:08:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows media player or anything else\Nthat tries to be a video organiser
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.89,0:08:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or video downloader.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.70,0:09:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, Nicholas, it's a great product and\Nwe always enjoy chatting with you and
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.39,0:09:06.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope you'll come back soon when you\Nrelease version 1.0;
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.11,0:09:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever it'll be called at that point.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.26,0:09:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Thank you so much.\N-You have a great day.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.28,0:09:12.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll definitely come back.\NYou too, take care.