1 00:00:08,500 --> 00:00:13,780 >> [Music: Flaming Lips “She Don’t Use Jelly”] 2 00:00:13,780 --> 00:00:15,300 >> Wayne Coyne: You know we've always said that 3 00:00:15,330 --> 00:00:17,310 as long as we can make more money being in the band 4 00:00:17,310 --> 00:00:19,240 than we could, say, working at McDonald's or Target, 5 00:00:19,250 --> 00:00:20,740 then we'll choose being in the band. 6 00:00:20,740 --> 00:00:21,660 >> Jennifer Van Evra: Right. 7 00:00:21,660 --> 00:00:24,820 >> Wayne Coyne: Only because that's what would be left for us if we weren't doing this. 8 00:00:24,820 --> 00:00:30,170 That's the kind of skill level of any contribution to society that we would have. 9 00:00:30,170 --> 00:00:35,039 Simply because we've spent our whole adult lives pursuing this. 10 00:00:35,039 --> 00:00:45,239 >> [Music] 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,660 >> Wayne Coyne: I worked at this fast food restaurant in Oklahoma City, Long John Silver's. 12 00:00:48,660 --> 00:00:51,600 Fried fish and french fries and stuff. I worked there for 11 years 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,760 from the time I was 16 to the time I was 27 or so. 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,929 I'd be working late at night and it was a reasonably bad area of town 15 00:00:58,929 --> 00:01:01,489 and we got robbed a couple of times. Especially in the late 1970's 16 00:01:01,489 --> 00:01:04,080 because the economy and everything really got horrible. 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,130 The first time we got robbed I was the only... I'm not saying this because I'm racist or anything 18 00:01:08,299 --> 00:01:11,110 I'm just being pragmatic about it. I was the only white guy. 19 00:01:11,110 --> 00:01:16,350 I was working with a bunch of black women. The guys who came in were black 20 00:01:16,350 --> 00:01:21,330 and they were pissed off and they had biggest gun I've ever seen in my life. 21 00:01:21,330 --> 00:01:26,220 Only because it's pointed at me did it seem so big. We all laid on the ground. 22 00:01:26,229 --> 00:01:31,809 I thought, “fuck, this is… this is it. Here I am, I'm 17 and this is how it ends.” 23 00:01:31,809 --> 00:01:34,899 “You’re just working one second and the next second you're laying on the ground” 24 00:01:34,899 --> 00:01:36,820 “and some guy puts a bullet in your head.” 25 00:01:36,820 --> 00:01:42,880 Obviously they robbed us and left and didn't kill me. But I remember the elation of just... 26 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,880 We all cried. We couldn't stop crying and laughing and jumping up and down. 27 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,340 We were celebrating like we had just won a million dollars. 28 00:01:50,350 --> 00:01:56,219 The idea of we are alive and isn't it a fucking great thing? I think it changed me. 29 00:01:56,219 --> 00:01:59,779 >> [MUSIC] 30 00:01:59,780 --> 00:02:05,500 Wayne Coyne: I think the idea of sort of confronting this always present idea 31 00:02:05,509 --> 00:02:08,509 that people around you are going to die or you're going to die or... 32 00:02:08,509 --> 00:02:11,020 I think it makes living better, it really does. 33 00:02:11,020 --> 00:02:17,230 To me, I hate this notion that I would ever forget of how temporary this whole thing is. 34 00:02:17,230 --> 00:02:19,740 You know life is worth celebrating and worth living 35 00:02:19,740 --> 00:02:25,450 even though we're all headed to the same hole at the end of the day. 36 00:02:25,450 --> 00:02:28,680 Without sort of coming to terms with it you're not coming to terms with 37 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,400 some of the joys of life at the same time. 38 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,880 >> [MUSIC] 39 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,420 Wayne Coyne: I don’t know. I think somewhere along the way 40 00:02:35,420 --> 00:02:39,280 music allows you to sing and talk and think about those things, 41 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,960 and it can be beautiful instead of being horrible. 42 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,320 I remember when my father was dying, 43 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,080 I remember listening to Bjork, and listening to John Coltrane, and these things, 44 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:56,500 and I don't know why but music has the power to transcend your physical being 45 00:02:56,510 --> 00:03:01,390 and take you up just a little bit. Because music has a metaphysical quality 46 00:03:01,390 --> 00:03:06,530 it gets up there in these things and it really makes your life beautiful. 47 00:03:06,530 --> 00:03:12,460 >> [Music] 48 00:03:12,460 --> 00:03:16,680 >> Wayne Coyne: It's the same thing for virtually every human that's ever going to be alive. 49 00:03:16,690 --> 00:03:22,830 Things that make them sad are going to be love, loss of love, death, fear of isolation. 50 00:03:22,830 --> 00:03:26,760 It's a really small little corner. So I think any time you sing about those 51 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,070 you're probably going to have a crowd that knows exactly what you're talking about. 52 00:03:30,070 --> 00:03:36,020 But when you're sing about things that make you happy, which I like to do that as well, 53 00:03:36,020 --> 00:03:38,920 you know, you never know if you're going to hit the mark. 54 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,170 That's why when I sing a song like She Don't Use Jelly, 55 00:03:42,170 --> 00:03:44,700 people go, “oh that's crazy, what are you talking about.” 56 00:03:44,700 --> 00:03:47,960 Even though they enjoy it, they don't understand it. 57 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,420 [Music: The Flaming Lips "Spoonful Weighs a Ton"] 58 00:03:51,420 --> 00:03:53,740 Stuff like when I sing about the Spoonful Weighs a Ton 59 00:03:53,740 --> 00:03:58,220 and people understand this is about death and meaning that you put into in your life. 60 00:03:58,220 --> 00:04:00,220 They go, “oh, I know what you're talking about.” 61 00:04:00,220 --> 00:04:06,220 >> [Music: The Flaming Lips “A Spoonful Weighs a Ton”] 62 00:04:06,220 --> 00:04:11,220 >> Wayne Coyne: So when I go in there and I’m singing about things that seem to be personal, 63 00:04:11,230 --> 00:04:17,910 they can be my own exact personal experience, yet if I'm doing the job right 64 00:04:17,910 --> 00:04:20,600 I can make it seem like it's your story at the same time. 65 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,280 I'm not just simply pouring my guts out. 66 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:26,240 I'm pouring my guts out so they can feel like your guts at the same time. 67 00:04:26,260 --> 00:04:34,720 >> [Music: Flaming Lips “Do You Realize”] 68 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,940 >> Jennifer Van Evra: Well I should let you go. 69 00:04:35,950 --> 00:04:37,110 >> Wayne Coyne: All right, well thanks a bunch. 70 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:39,790 I'm sitting in the lobby where the elevators come out. 71 00:04:39,790 --> 00:04:42,160 People have all been looking at me in my bare feet, 72 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,740 talking existential bullshit with you as they get in and out of the elevators. 73 00:04:46,740 --> 00:04:49,540 >> Jennifer Van Evra: Hilarious. That was the odd ding I was hearing in the background. 74 00:04:49,540 --> 00:04:51,780 >> Wayne Coyne: Yeah. 75 00:04:51,780 --> 00:04:54,800 >> Jennifer Van Evra: Well thanks again and I really appreciate you taking out the time on a Saturday. 76 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,000 >> Wayne Coyne: Well I'm glad you called. Okay. 77 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:56,820 >> Jennifer Van Evra: Okay, cheers. 78 00:04:56,820 --> 00:04:57,480 >> Wayne Coyne: Alright, bye. 79 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:57,980 >> Jennifer Van Evra: Bye. 80 00:04:57,980 --> 00:05:05,040 >> [Music: Flaming Lips “Do You Realize”]