WEBVTT 00:00:00.140 --> 00:00:03.100 [Sounds of birds chirping] 00:00:03.340 --> 00:00:08.800 [New York Close Up] 00:00:09.620 --> 00:00:11.640 [Fort Greene, Brooklyn] 00:00:14.580 --> 00:00:16.910 I find that being able to work at home... 00:00:18.060 --> 00:00:19.720 that I wake up in the morning, 00:00:19.720 --> 00:00:22.439 I have breakfast, I start working. 00:00:22.439 --> 00:00:25.480 And it’s a very smooth transition 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:27.609 directly into the work 00:00:27.609 --> 00:00:31.759 that comes from a quieter, 00:00:31.759 --> 00:00:34.079 more centered place. 00:00:44.680 --> 00:00:46.800 [Louise Despont, Artist] 00:00:48.400 --> 00:00:50.580 [Nicole Wong, Assistant] 00:01:08.180 --> 00:01:11.640 I think we’ll do white dots on these ones, 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:13.780 up until you reach this small... 00:01:13.780 --> 00:01:15.299 stop before you reach this smallest one. 00:01:15.299 --> 00:01:17.179 So stop on this one. 00:01:21.460 --> 00:01:26.600 What I like about making work this way 00:01:26.600 --> 00:01:30.320 is that I don’t need to wait for an opportunity to be given to me. 00:01:30.320 --> 00:01:33.990 I don’t have to apply for money to do this idea 00:01:33.990 --> 00:01:36.810 when I can do what I need to do 00:01:36.810 --> 00:01:39.640 and what I want to do simply on paper. 00:01:42.800 --> 00:01:45.960 I like that--that there’s no excuse not to do the work, 00:01:45.969 --> 00:01:48.289 because it’s so contained. 00:01:48.899 --> 00:01:53.570 To be focused and dedicated to doing one simple thing 00:01:53.570 --> 00:01:56.439 can perhaps be the most transformative thing. 00:01:56.439 --> 00:02:00.180 That as narrow as it is, 00:02:00.180 --> 00:02:03.780 it can be infinitely deep. 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:10.259 ["Louise Despont Draws Deep"] 00:02:15.420 --> 00:02:18.720 We always associate drawing as being more personal-- 00:02:18.720 --> 00:02:21.709 as being more intimate than painting. 00:02:21.709 --> 00:02:24.209 Because, historically, drawings weren’t shown, 00:02:24.209 --> 00:02:26.730 and then when they were, they were shown as, sort of, 00:02:26.730 --> 00:02:28.730 the private notebooks of so-and-so, 00:02:28.730 --> 00:02:32.350 or the sketches from these very famous paintings. 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:38.790 I was doing more oil painting before-- 00:02:38.790 --> 00:02:40.080 ten years ago-- 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:42.480 and then, suddenly you see it, 00:02:42.480 --> 00:02:44.349 and you think it's all wrong 00:02:44.349 --> 00:02:47.870 and you need to take a completely different path. 00:02:47.870 --> 00:02:50.670 And that's when I started working in notebooks 00:02:50.670 --> 00:02:52.470 and doing a lot of collage-- 00:02:52.470 --> 00:02:54.629 where there was just, you know, collecting images 00:02:54.629 --> 00:02:57.480 and taping them into the book. 00:02:57.480 --> 00:02:59.450 To fill up a book felt nice, you know? 00:02:59.450 --> 00:03:01.640 It didn’t even have to be with anything good. 00:03:01.640 --> 00:03:05.580 It was just nice to complete a book. 00:03:07.880 --> 00:03:11.200 I think it’s also the nature of working in a book. 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:14.140 It’s that the work is private, 00:03:14.140 --> 00:03:16.760 that you’re not making work for people to see. 00:03:16.760 --> 00:03:19.909 Because if you’re always imagining that somebody will look at it, 00:03:19.909 --> 00:03:22.700 then maybe you don’t let yourself make the mistakes 00:03:22.700 --> 00:03:25.660 that need to be made on the way. 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:38.480 These ledger books, they’re mostly all for accounting-- 00:03:38.480 --> 00:03:40.099 keeping track of your expenses, 00:03:40.099 --> 00:03:42.799 of debts and accounts owed. 00:03:43.900 --> 00:03:46.950 I think it’s a different way of accounting for time 00:03:46.950 --> 00:03:49.770 and for a life spent. 00:03:50.390 --> 00:03:53.650 It becomes the account of every day, 00:03:53.650 --> 00:03:56.050 that I put into the drawing. 00:03:58.069 --> 00:03:59.750 When I started using the stencils, 00:03:59.750 --> 00:04:02.870 it completely changed how I drew. 00:04:11.020 --> 00:04:14.800 This is the first stencil I ever bought, 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:16.420 which is now all broken. 00:04:16.420 --> 00:04:18.200 I’m really sad about it. 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:22.920 I think the triangles are the ones I use most. 00:04:32.220 --> 00:04:35.380 Laying out the paper and seeing the dimensions 00:04:35.380 --> 00:04:38.010 can sometimes be the beginning of a drawing. 00:04:38.010 --> 00:04:39.450 You only have to make the first few marks 00:04:39.450 --> 00:04:43.320 and the whole drawing will unravel itself 00:04:43.320 --> 00:04:44.720 in response to that, 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:48.760 even if you change completely what you thought you were starting at. 00:04:48.760 --> 00:04:53.080 Those few marks contain the seed of the entire drawing. 00:04:54.900 --> 00:04:58.060 It’s almost like the drawing guides itself, 00:04:58.060 --> 00:05:00.590 and you’re there to do the weeding 00:05:00.590 --> 00:05:02.800 and the watering and the planting. 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:05.420 But it will grow on it’s own, 00:05:05.420 --> 00:05:07.840 to a certain extent. 00:05:17.940 --> 00:05:19.600 It’s nice to look at something 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:21.780 and feel some sort of awe for it, 00:05:21.790 --> 00:05:23.570 that you don’t fully own it 00:05:23.570 --> 00:05:26.090 but that you worked for it. 00:05:28.760 --> 00:05:31.860 Even if it looks very controlled and detailed, 00:05:31.870 --> 00:05:34.330 I feel like I own 00:05:34.330 --> 00:05:40.430 maybe one quarter of it at most. [LAUGHS] 00:05:44.940 --> 00:05:47.100 Each drawing is a discovery-- 00:05:47.100 --> 00:05:48.280 tiny discoveries-- 00:05:48.280 --> 00:05:52.160 but each one unfolds in a way 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:55.660 that removes the drawing from total control. 00:05:55.660 --> 00:05:58.170 You’re responsible for your part, 00:05:58.170 --> 00:06:02.350 and something else is responsible for the other part, 00:06:02.350 --> 00:06:05.130 which makes it very exciting. 00:06:06.660 --> 00:06:09.860 It’s a complexity that you can’t think up. 00:06:11.940 --> 00:06:14.760 It’s like little mineral deposits build up 00:06:14.760 --> 00:06:16.900 and make an entire surface. 00:06:18.580 --> 00:06:22.060 I think it's expressive on an energetic level, 00:06:22.060 --> 00:06:23.980 at least that's what I hope. 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:29.020 I think the work accesses something 00:06:29.020 --> 00:06:31.080 to me that feels very universal. 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:35.920 There’s something so personal and raw and unconcrete 00:06:35.930 --> 00:06:40.780 about your relationship to the spiritual, 00:06:40.780 --> 00:06:46.860 and my words will always be this clumsy approximation 00:06:46.860 --> 00:06:50.220 of something that I feel I'm beginning to touch 00:06:50.220 --> 00:06:53.100 in a symbolic language. 00:06:53.820 --> 00:06:57.920 I feel it’s best explained in the drawings. 00:07:19.380 --> 00:07:22.120 [White Mule, Chelsea] 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:25.460 [DESPONT] And that’s the Japanese rice mulberry paper? 00:07:25.460 --> 00:07:26.300 [ANNE GIBBS] Mmm hmm. 00:07:26.300 --> 00:07:28.960 The paste that we use is a rice paste, 00:07:28.960 --> 00:07:29.850 so it’s water soluble. 00:07:29.850 --> 00:07:31.530 It can easily be taken off with just a little... 00:07:31.530 --> 00:07:32.900 [Anne Gibbs, Framer] 00:07:32.900 --> 00:07:35.780 you know, humidifying it a little. 00:07:52.260 --> 00:07:53.880 [DESPONT] And then, 00:07:53.890 --> 00:07:58.850 when I have to make the final step from taking the drawing to the framer, 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:01.600 I take a last look at it 00:08:01.610 --> 00:08:04.530 because I know it’s the last time to make changes. 00:08:04.530 --> 00:08:06.310 And when I look at the drawing 00:08:06.310 --> 00:08:11.340 I can see areas that aren’t fully connected 00:08:11.340 --> 00:08:14.460 or fully resolved. 00:08:15.140 --> 00:08:17.340 And those are all openings 00:08:17.340 --> 00:08:18.640 to add something. 00:08:18.640 --> 00:08:20.740 And then when it’s done, it’s like, 00:08:20.750 --> 00:08:21.990 "Don’t touch me!" 00:08:21.990 --> 00:08:24.960 Like, there’s no entry point anymore. 00:08:24.960 --> 00:08:25.900 And that's... 00:08:25.900 --> 00:08:28.020 that always feels very clear.