WEBVTT 00:00:13.378 --> 00:00:17.138 The National Program for Educational Excellence and the Araratian Baccalaureate 00:00:17.138 --> 00:00:20.028 are one of the most talked about topics in our country today. 00:00:20.028 --> 00:00:22.188 However, not many people are well aware of the 00:00:22.188 --> 00:00:24.978 peculiarities of what the Araratian Baccalaureate offers. 00:00:24.978 --> 00:00:28.428 To sum up briefly, presently there are two state-approved 00:00:28.428 --> 00:00:32.198 educational programs in our country – the first is the one 00:00:32.198 --> 00:00:34.448 we had before and we have today, and 00:00:34.448 --> 00:00:36.388 the second is the Araratian Baccalaureate. 00:00:36.388 --> 00:00:39.488 What makes the Araratian Baccalaureate stand out and what we should expect 00:00:39.488 --> 00:00:43.678 after it's rolled out to schools? These are topics we will talk about 00:00:43.678 --> 00:00:45.958 with Dan Bray, Deputy Director of Assessment at 00:00:45.958 --> 00:00:48.838 Cambridge University’s Cambridge International Examinations. 00:00:48.918 --> 00:00:49.668 Hello. 00:00:49.718 --> 00:00:52.248 Dan Bray is the Deputy Director of 00:00:52.248 --> 00:00:55.288 Cambridge International Examinations of Cambridge University 00:00:55.288 --> 00:00:58.008 one of top educational institutions in the world. 00:00:58.008 --> 00:01:01.698 He has been with Cambridge International Examinations for 10 years. 00:01:01.698 --> 00:01:05.628 Dan Bray and his team deal with various international education reform projects. 00:01:05.628 --> 00:01:06.628 that relate to assessment. 00:01:06.628 --> 00:01:08.788 The Cambridge International Examinations 00:01:08.788 --> 00:01:15.048 implements major projects in 160 countries among which Armenia has its unique place. 00:01:15.048 --> 00:01:18.068 The Cambridge International Examinations has found the Araratian Baccalaureate 00:01:18.068 --> 00:01:23.218 high school program comparable to international standards and qualifications 00:01:23.218 --> 00:01:25.868 Mr. Bray is in Armenia to participate in 00:01:25.868 --> 00:01:28.858 the grading of the Araratian Baccalaureate graduation exams 00:01:28.858 --> 00:01:32.268 as well as to discuss future cooperation programs. 00:01:33.808 --> 00:01:34.808 Hello, Mr. Bray. 00:01:34.808 --> 00:01:35.548 Hello. 00:01:35.548 --> 00:01:39.548 As I am informed this is your second visit to Armenia, 00:01:39.548 --> 00:01:43.658 your first visit lasted only six hours. 00:01:43.658 --> 00:01:44.938 That’s right. 00:01:44.938 --> 00:01:53.058 Which was the reason of your first visit? And how cooperation with Armenia started? 00:01:54.718 --> 00:01:58.628 Well, we’ve been working with the Ayb Foundation for three years now, 00:01:58.628 --> 00:02:03.148 at first, we helped do some reviews of the curriculum they developed 00:02:03.148 --> 00:02:13.898 for the Baccalaureate so that it meets international standards, 00:02:13.898 --> 00:02:17.158 and then for the last 18 months we have been working directly 00:02:17.158 --> 00:02:19.688 with the Araratian Baccalaureate Examination Center 00:02:19.688 --> 00:02:22.708 to help them make sure that the qualification, the assessments, 00:02:22.708 --> 00:02:30.788 the examinations for the Baccalaureate meet international standards. 00:02:31.208 --> 00:02:33.168 But last time I came, I came for a visit, 00:02:33.168 --> 00:02:35.308 unfortunately, the airplane was delayed, 00:02:35.308 --> 00:02:40.288 so by the time I arrived in Armenia it was almost time to leave 00:02:40.288 --> 00:02:46.798 so this is my first time actually to spend any time in Armenia. 00:02:47.448 --> 00:02:51.138 Your Center cooperates with 160 countries. 00:02:51.138 --> 00:02:58.658 Certainly, each of them has its own national, economic, and other features. 00:02:58.658 --> 00:03:05.098 Which are the Armenian features, and what kind of work do you do with them? 00:03:05.098 --> 00:03:09.168 What’s really important about the Araratian Baccalaureate 00:03:09.168 --> 00:03:17.868 is that this is a solution that’s been designed for Armenia, in Armenia 00:03:17.868 --> 00:03:20.808 by the Ayb Foundation and by Araratian Baccalaureate Examination Center. 00:03:21.568 --> 00:03:26.238 This is not something that’s designed in Cambridge. We act as support, 00:03:26.238 --> 00:03:31.668 we act as consultancy, we make sure that the qualification will be recognized 00:03:31.668 --> 00:03:35.768 internationally, we make sure that in every step as they develop the new 00:03:35.768 --> 00:03:41.828 processes, they are always done to the highest standard, 00:03:41.828 --> 00:03:45.468 but this is not a process done in Cambridge, 00:03:45.468 --> 00:03:48.378 this is a solution designed in Armenia. 00:03:48.378 --> 00:03:51.708 One thing that we know from working with so many countries is 00:03:51.708 --> 00:03:54.818 that if you take a solution from one country 00:03:54.818 --> 00:03:57.468 and move it to somewhere else, 00:03:57.468 --> 00:04:00.398 even if it was a good solution for the first country 00:04:00.398 --> 00:04:03.658 it’s unlikely to have the same positive effect in the new country. 00:04:03.968 --> 00:04:07.528 So, one of the really positive things about working with Ayb is 00:04:07.528 --> 00:04:12.788 that they are designing something specifically for the Armenian market. 00:04:13.108 --> 00:04:14.858 You think it works? 00:04:14.858 --> 00:04:16.528 Yes, definitely, it’s essential. 00:04:16.528 --> 00:04:21.998 It couldn’t work any other way, what our job is to make sure that 00:04:21.998 --> 00:04:25.748 those specialists in Armenia, have the 00:04:25.748 --> 00:04:29.378 technical skills and the technical experience that we can bring to that. 00:04:29.378 --> 00:04:34.028 But it’s essential that the qualification is created by Armenians, in Armenia, 00:04:34.028 --> 00:04:39.318 because it’s only people locally that understand 00:04:39.318 --> 00:04:45.088 how the questions will be interpreted, how the learning will play in Armenia, 00:04:45.088 --> 00:04:47.998 we can’t know that from Cambridge. 00:04:48.218 --> 00:04:52.718 Which will be the differences between our old program graduates and 00:04:52.718 --> 00:04:56.908 Araratian Baccalaureate graduates? What we hope to see? Anything new, 00:04:56.908 --> 00:05:04.498 anything good? What will it be? 00:05:04.498 --> 00:05:06.418 The Baccalaureate has been designed 00:05:06.418 --> 00:05:16.528 to provide opportunities for students, so it works on a number of principles, 00:05:16.528 --> 00:05:22.218 first of all it’s very carefully thought about the skills, talents and aspirations 00:05:22.218 --> 00:05:28.918 that students have, and that will be recognized by universities and employers 00:05:28.918 --> 00:05:33.038 both in Armenia and internationally, so we’re thinking about high thinking 00:05:33.038 --> 00:05:36.338 skills, creative skills, analytical skills, evaluation, those kind of 00:05:36.338 --> 00:05:40.128 internationally recognized skills. Those are things that are present in the 00:05:40.128 --> 00:05:46.658 very best, world class international curricula and they are present 00:05:46.658 --> 00:05:50.358 in the Araratian Baccalaureate. And by encouraging those skills in students 00:05:50.358 --> 00:05:56.598 those students will be valued in the workplace and internationally by 00:05:56.598 --> 00:06:01.228 universities. The second part is that we are operating to standards that 00:06:01.238 --> 00:06:05.368 are equivalent to qualifications internationally, so we benchmark the 00:06:05.368 --> 00:06:07.558 standards to international qualifications, 00:06:07.558 --> 00:06:10.558 and we have designed the qualification specifically to do that, 00:06:10.558 --> 00:06:13.788 we have also had that recognized by extra or third party agencies 00:06:13.798 --> 00:06:19.078 to make sure we have that recognition by universities. 00:06:19.838 --> 00:06:26.418 So, we can tell a very powerful story about the skills and talents 00:06:26.418 --> 00:06:33.218 of students taking the Baccalaureate. And those are recognized by universities 00:06:33.218 --> 00:06:35.418 and that provides opportunities for the 00:06:35.418 --> 00:06:36.848 students taking the qualification. 00:06:39.208 --> 00:06:41.708 Our President announced about creating 00:06:41.708 --> 00:06:47.338 new school network offering the Araratian Baccalaureate. 00:06:47.338 --> 00:06:53.158 What will it change in our country? 00:06:55.128 --> 00:06:59.068 One of the key things in the very best education systems is a concept that we 00:06:59.068 --> 00:07:07.088 refer to as “coherence.” And what I mean by coherence is that there is a 00:07:07.088 --> 00:07:11.098 vision of what’s trying to be achieved and then all aspects of the education system 00:07:11.098 --> 00:07:16.918 are aligned to that vision – 00:07:17.958 --> 00:07:20.018 so the curriculum, the teacher training, 00:07:20.018 --> 00:07:24.558 pedagogy in the classroom, the school facilities, the assessments, the funding – 00:07:24.958 --> 00:07:28.678 everything is aligned to the vision, that’s true of the Araratian Baccalaureate 00:07:28.738 --> 00:07:33.038 and that’s what we’re hoping, that not only the people taking the qualification 00:07:33.038 --> 00:07:45.268 directly but also the other schools can benefit from that vision. 00:07:46.748 --> 00:07:53.668 Examinations in Armenia are conducted by Araratian Baccalaureate Examination Center 00:07:53.668 --> 00:07:59.208 but you sign up for it. What do you think about quality of 00:07:59.208 --> 00:08:02.198 examinations, and the education of the pupils? 00:08:03.068 --> 00:08:08.748 When it comes to the Araratian Baccalaureate Examination Center it’s 00:08:08.748 --> 00:08:13.788 my job and my team's job to make sure that the standards that they operate 00:08:13.788 --> 00:08:17.588 are the same standards that are operated on Cambridge’s own international 00:08:17.588 --> 00:08:21.178 qualifications. And we wouldn’t sign to put our support behind unless 00:08:21.178 --> 00:08:27.488 we believed that was true. And they were working really hard and 00:08:27.488 --> 00:08:36.388 to a very high standard, to a very high quality and I am very happy 00:08:36.388 --> 00:08:38.458 to support that. 00:08:38.928 --> 00:08:41.798 The Araratian Baccalaureate is an internationally-recognized 00:08:41.798 --> 00:08:45.238 Armenian-language educational program intended for high school students. 00:08:45.238 --> 00:08:48.958 Thus, after completing basic school students can opt for one of the two 00:08:48.958 --> 00:08:53.638 state-approved programs: if students opt for the current educational program 00:08:53.638 --> 00:08:59.308 they automatically move to high school, while in case of the 00:08:59.308 --> 00:09:05.528 Araratian Baccalaureate, all students are expected to take admission exams. 00:09:05.528 --> 00:09:08.658 Upon successfully completing the 00:09:08.658 --> 00:09:12.278 Araratian Baccalaureate high school program, students receive a certificate 00:09:12.278 --> 00:09:15.868 bearing the logo of the Cambridge University, by which the latter confirms 00:09:15.868 --> 00:09:19.018 the quality of the program. The certificate enables and 00:09:19.018 --> 00:09:22.048 facilitates admission to local and international universities, 00:09:22.048 --> 00:09:25.728 in this case, if necessary, students will be expected to take only 00:09:25.728 --> 00:09:28.688 the exams which they did not take when completing the program. 00:09:28.688 --> 00:09:31.618 Presently only Ayb School offers the Araratian Baccalaureate, 00:09:31.618 --> 00:09:35.158 however, by 2018, 20 schools in Armenian regions and one school in Artsakh 00:09:35.158 --> 00:09:38.288 are projected to be certified as Araratian Baccalaureate schools. 00:09:38.288 --> 00:09:41.468 You shouldn’t confuse the Araratian Baccalaureate with Ayb School. 00:09:41.468 --> 00:09:44.738 Education in Araratian Baccalaureate schools will be free of charge. 00:09:44.738 --> 00:09:47.888 The Araratian Baccalaureate is the only internationally-recognized program 00:09:47.888 --> 00:09:50.058 which is delivered in Armenian. 00:09:58.918 --> 00:10:03.758 And the last question, non-professional. 00:10:03.758 --> 00:10:07.248 What you hope to see in Armenia? What is interesting for you in Armenia? 00:10:10.108 --> 00:10:13.888 After I finish working, I have invited my wife 00:10:13.888 --> 00:10:18.118 to join me for the next three days, so we’re spending the time touring round. 00:10:18.118 --> 00:10:21.898 We’re going to head up the mountains, we’re going to do some wine tasting and 00:10:21.898 --> 00:10:28.538 spend some time in Yerevan. It’s a beautiful country and I am hoping that 00:10:28.538 --> 00:10:33.268 in the next three-four days I will have a chance 00:10:33.268 --> 00:10:36.718 to really get to know some more of the country. 00:10:37.738 --> 00:10:40.248 Thank you for the interesting conversation. 00:10:40.488 --> 00:10:44.078 I would like to remind you that our today’s guest was Dan Bray, 00:10:44.078 --> 00:10:47.858 Deputy Director at Cambridge University's Cambridge International Examinations, 00:10:47.858 --> 00:10:49.528 who is in Armenia to support 00:10:49.528 --> 00:10:52.398 the grading of the Araratian Baccalaureate graduation exams. 00:10:52.398 --> 00:10:53.558 Goodbye.