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El software libre desde distintos mundos

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    Anything?
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    Yes? Okay.
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    Fine, then I’m skipping the thank-yous
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    so we don’t have to get back to it.
    Okay, I was saying that what
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    I’m gonna try to talk about in a little while
    is my personal vision of free software
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    which, therefore, doesn’t try to be
    one of those thorough matters
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    about why free software may be
    interesting to you or so,
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    but why it is interesting to me.
    It may be similar to what's
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    interesting to you too.
    And, in the end, if we have a little time
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    we can talk a bit about it.
    The first slide is almost
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    mandatory, lest someone is still
    up in the clouds
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    and still doesn't know what
    free software is.
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    I guess there's no need now to
    say that, nowadays, free software
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    is everywhere, you all know
    you're carrying several millions
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    of free software code lines
    in your pocket, right?
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    Yeah? Does everybody know?
    And do you know where they are and so?
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    And do you know how to log in and so?
    Careful, because if you don't,
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    someone does for sure, lest they
    are logging in on your cell easily.
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    Okay, anyway, this is free software
    and we have it everywhere.
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    Everytime we're using the Internet,
    everytime we're using a cellphone,
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    everytime we're using a car,
    probably a television.
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    you're using a lot of free software.
    Maybe you've seen it and it got to you
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    as free, but at least, originally,
    that software was free.
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    When software gets to you as free,
    that is its definition, this is not
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    Jesus' definition and it's not accepted,
    well, a little changed
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    so it's easier to understand, but
    it's basically the commonly accepted
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    definition and for those who've heard
    the English term, it's the same one
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    as "open source software" or so.
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    For Spanish, I tend to use
    free software.
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    First off, you can use free software
    as you please. It may sound silly,
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    but you know that exclusive or owner
    software cannot always be used as you like
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    on devices of your choice. Sometimes,
    there are time limitations, sometimes
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    you can use it on just one, sometimes
    you can just use it for certain things.
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    Free software has to able to be used
    in any way, if not, it's not free.
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    Second, you can redistribute it, copy it,
    share it on the Internet,
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    give it away to someone or charge
    them for it.
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    Careful, it's not said you can't charge for it
    but you can redistribute it as you please,
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    without necessarily being the owner, obviously,
    but he can do so as well, for sure.
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    Third, and it's one of the things on
    which I'll focus today:
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    "You can modify it". You can change
    it as you please,
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    typically to enhance it, many will
    worsen it but you can do whatever
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    you want with it. You can adapt it...
    anything.
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    Naturally, to do so, you have to count
    with the necessary technical mecanisms,
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    which you know that, in the case of
    compiled languages, for example it's the source code.
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    In the case of interpreted languages,
    it's an eligible source code,
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    because interpreted languages can also
    be made hard to edit.
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    And, last, you can redistribute the
    modifications, which kind of makes it come full circle
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    and makes it all work with many mechanisms
    that are combined.
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    And, obviously, it's said nowhere that free
    software has to be free.
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    Maybe, in many cases, it gets to us free,
    but it's not an essential condition.
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    There could be a software which was free
    and cost you a million euros to get it.
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    So if you're later interested, we'll discuss those
    details but it's not what I wanted to talk about today.
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    If you'd like to go deeper, those
    two URLs down there
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    are the standard definitions.
    The first one is by the Free Software Foundation,
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    and the second one is by the OSI,
    the Open Source Initiative,
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    which handles the term 'open source' that,
    as I was saying, at least concerning
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    all I'm going to talk about today,
    is exactly equivalent to free software
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    in everything I'm going to discuss.
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    Okay, let's cut to the chase.
    First, the thing is I'm splitting it
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    a bit into two different points of view.
    One is the most professional, let's say,
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    which is very likely, I think, that I'll
    share with many of you.
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    Then, it's the personal one and, being personal,
    maybe we'll not share it that much.
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    The first one focuses on something very basic,
    on this thing, the car's engine.
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    I'm one of those people who, when their
    car stops, go and open up the hood, look at it and close it back
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    because I don't know anything about mechanics,
    and call someone to come and help.
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    But you know there's people, this funny
    people who like to oil themselves,
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    who go and take a look to what's inside,
    start pulling out wires and pieces
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    and, sometimes, fix your engine.
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    The question is:
    Can mechanics fix a car's engine?
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    And why can they do so?
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    Then one thinks "sure they can".
    You open up the car and touch here and there
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    and you can touch anything.
    Those of us who are computer technicians,
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    or work with stuff linked to computers and
    know how to code, can fix programs.
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    The question is: can we do it?
    We can but not just because we technically
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    have the necessary knowledge, but can we
    do it because we're allowed
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    legally and technically? In other words,
    if that Word you hate so much goes corrupt,
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    can you fix it? You say
    "you're speaking nonsense,
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    how am I going to fix a program?"
    There's people who'll even think:
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    "Jeez, we spend years in faculties
    or schools studying precisely
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    how to make and fix programs".
    But then it turns out you can't
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    because you're not given the programs
    with the ways to be able to fix them.
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    To begin with, they come in binary,
    you don't have the source code.
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    But, also, you legally can't.
    You know that, legally, that thing
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    you see around, the license,
    which we never ever read,
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    but you should sometime and you'll
    have a blast, you grab a beer,
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    start reading, you have a laugh... and
    you realize it states things such as you can't change
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    the program in any way, even if you paid
    for it with your money, even if you're
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    daily using it and it has a tiny error you
    could fix, because you know how to fix it,
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    it's from class 101 if such
    thing still exists.
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    Note that that means we learn
    for doing things
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    that later, in the real life,
    we cannot make use of.
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    Free software changes that radically,
    because in free software,
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    as you've seen before, I always need
    to be given the technical mechanisms to change a program.
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    And as silly as it seems,
    professionally it's a whole world.
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    It opens not just chances of business, because
    you can make business out of solving problems
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    that others have because you know about it,
    you have the knowledge.
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    Just as a mechanic knows how to fix cars,
    and many mechanics make business and
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    do it for a living, fixing cars of
    others who don't know how,
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    us, the people who know how to code
    or know enough about computers,
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    to put it somehow, we could,
    at least in theory, fix any program.
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    It's just a matter of knowledge and effort.
    I mean, any human
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    who wants to go for it, has both things.
    Knowledge can be acquired,
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    and about effort it's up to you
    how much you put into it.
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    Just as any mechanic, at least theoretically,
    can fix any breakdown
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    if you give him enough time and enough
    engine manuals,
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    so should any computer technician be able
    to fix any problem
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    if he has enough time for it
    and the proper manuals or information.
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    But, again, in our profession we legally
    can't do it in many cases
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    and neither technically, but not
    because it's hard,
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    but because technical mechanisms
    have been placed to prevent us from it.
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    They basically don't give us
    the source code.
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    Note that in the free software world,
    that does not happen,
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    hence the much bigger possibilities we have.
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    And, suddenly, we can do our jobs and
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    not just be, to put it somehow, consumers
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    or adapters of third-party products,
    but we can directly work on it.
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    And if you're interested, for example,
    in working on on-cloud software
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    then you can go and search on the Internet
    for free products which are being installed
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    on big enterprises, and learn
    how they're made and see their source code
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    and install it on your laptop if you please
    or on a thousand computers if you're
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    working for a company that has a
    thousand computers to install it on.
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    And, if any problem occurs, you can fix it
    if you think you'd better do so or you
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    want to dedicate to it or you're being
    paid for dedicating it the necessary effort.
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    And, careful, things are changing a lot.
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    We said mechanics can fix cars.
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    Nowadays, that's not so clear.
    A modern car, of a high range,
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    has around 50 or 100 million
    code lines.
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    To be clear, 50 or 100 million code lines
    is serious business.
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    The ISS has between 5 and 10 million
    code lines that make
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    every system of the ISS work.
    Although, on the other hand,
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    a slightly modern TV probably has
    around 10 million code lines
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    without the kernel, because almost
    all of them have Linux, which has 5 million by itself.
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    Therefore, well, it looks like a lot of lines
    but they're really not so many.
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    But what it really does mean is that
    if I don't have access to the car's software,
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    I'll probably won't be able to fix it.
    Typical issue: I own a kind of modern car
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    and it stops and first thing
    I have to do is put it
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    in the diagnosis machine from the manufacturer
    which connects with the car's software,
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    which has made a diagnosis,
    to see what's happening to it.
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    If I don't have any access to both things,
    I can hardly go further.
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    because most of things that have anything
    to do with the software is not
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    working properly in God knows which part:
    gasoline is not being pumped how it should,
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    it's not slowing down properly or
    it shouldn't be doing whatever.
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    So, not long from now,
    being able to fix our car
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    or that a mechanic can fix our car
    will have to do with
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    how that car's software is,
    and it's already happening, as I said
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    Until the point where models are starting
    to being planned out where the car
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    is not sold to us and, hence is not
    even ours, not even the software
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    it has is ours, they give us a license of use
    for the car.
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    As it widely happens with the Teslas,
    if anyone's been interested in looking them up.
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    So, in fact, funny things start happening,
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    like my car did certain things,
    I took it to the dealer's for a check,
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    I get it back and it does different things
    because they changed its software,
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    they installed a new release of the software
    that now does other things.
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    And, suddenly, it turns out the pumping
    works differently or, if it's electric,
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    the acceleration works differently,
    or the locking of the doors
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    or any other detail you can think of.
    And remember that, at this very moment,
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    cars are starting to learn how to make
    decisions all by themselves,
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    and, at a given time, they'll have
    to choose between "I brake and kill the pilot"
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    or "I don't brake and kill the guy on the street",
    and you're the pilot.
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    So think about if knowing how
    that software works is of interest to us or not.
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    This is not theoretical, there are already
    cars which are doing it,
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    which are being tested on the streets
    of many cities around the world.
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    But note how, what was first
    the mechanic's analogy, becomes
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    to people who know about computers,
    to put it somehow,
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    in the reality of future, and that you
    can apply it to any device you want.
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    So, using or not free software
    from a professional point of view
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    becomes something fundamental
    and completely basic.
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    If I use free software, I can understand
    devices, programs, systems
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    I'm working with because if I'd like, I can take a look at their source code and, above all,
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    I can collaborate with other people who
    are interested in the same and we can document it,
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    understand it, learn a lot from that code.
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    Note that, in many cases,
    in computing faculties and schools
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    we're asking people to learn how to code
    without having seen programs.
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    Let's say we asked architects to learn
    how to make buildings without
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    ever having seen actual buildings.
    Not some shack I've built
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    in some kind of practice,
    but an actual building, as we know them.
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    Sure, architects would say:
    "That's impossible".
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    However, if you think about it,
    how many actual programs,
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    of those which are known, have you
    seen during all the time you've been studying?
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    In many classes, they're teaching them
    bit by bit and, maybe,
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    you've been lucky to be there
    but it's not usual.
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    The usual thing is that you've
    seen the little shacks you build in practices.
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    And, with some luck, maybe a more
    proper shack
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    your teacher gives to you as a model,
    and sometimes, not even that.
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    And that's what you have with you to learn
    how to code, it's very hard.
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    But you can read, read the actual
    programs. If you're interested in word
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    processors, you can take LibreOffice,
    three or four millions of code lines,
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    you can read them all.
    Obviously you won't,
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    but you can do a lot with them.
    In fact, there are ways to look
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    at a complex program and understand it
    by looking at its source code if you know how to,
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    those are skills which are still not being
    taught nowadays but that we should
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    probably be teaching.
    Anyway, you can really learn
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    about our profession.
    You can take part, because most
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    of this software is developed in communities
    where there are lots of people who know
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    and who can help you learn,
    and it's nowadays one of the most clear
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    ways to learn how to really code,
    not to learn how to code a for loop,
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    but to learn how to really code,
    collaborate with people who know.
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    To help them, because you help
    to improve their software and
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    they help you to learn.
    And, lastly, reusing.
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    Reusing software made by others
    but with a good understanding of it,
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    not as a black box, which you
    see down below and it's probably
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    the most interesting part. There are no
    black boxes in the world of free software,
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    you can check anything out, you
    don't have to believe what they tell you,
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    you can check it out by yourself. For example,
    you don't have to believe whether your phone
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    is sending telemetry to Google or not, so they
    know right now where you are, you can look
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    at the code and see whether it's sending telemetry
    or not. And if you don't want it to send it,
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    you can disable it, not because there's
    a default option, but because you,
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    who knows about it, go and change
    it in the program and maybe there's someone
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    who wants to pay you to do this
    kind of stuff.
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    And as I said, then there's a more
    personal vision, until now the professional
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    one, which maybe lots of you share
    because, in my opinion,
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    it's the only real way to become
    a developer,
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    if you're interested in working in
    computing development it's working with free code,
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    there aren't many more options nowadays.
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    But the other side is more personal,
    more social if you'd like.
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    What kind of society are we heading towards?
    This is a pretty classic book
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    by a man called Lawrence Lessig,
    who's one of the people who started
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    the Creative Commons project and other stuff.
    Actually, he's a lawyer,
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    but he has a lot of technical knowledge
    and has a very interesting approach,
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    let's just say he got to the technical
    from the legal world.
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    So, he does very interesting analogies and,
    for example, he has an analogy
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    which I think it's very enlightening,
    and it's:
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    "The code is law", and he means the code
    from computer programs,
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    not the civil code.
    What does that mean?
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    Nowadays, the things we can or cannot do
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    are more and more limited by the code
    of the programs we use than by the laws.
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    Take a moment to think about it. When
    you're about to tweet about someone,
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    what's limiting you the most nowadays,
    with all we may say about
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    judges and all, are the filters they may use
    on Twitter for deciding if that tweet can be published or not,
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    even if they delete your account
    because they don't like that tweet.
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    In other words, the code of the "program",
    I mean, the mechanism we use
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    to express ourselves limits us more than the
    legislation we have in a country such as Spain.
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    If you're about to do something to your TV
    that maybe you'd like to but,
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    perhaps, you can't because, legally,
    it's not allowed, what's probably
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    going to stop you from it
    is your TV's code.
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    For example, think about what happens
    when you try to watch a show that is not allowed
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    to watch in Spain. Maybe, legally, it is,
    but the producer of that show
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    won't let you watch it. There are filters
    on the Internet that check the IP address,
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    that see you're connected from Spain and
    won't let you get access
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    to that series, for example, that you
    like so much. Even if you're willing to pay,
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    but there're no distribution rights for Spain,
    or it has no commercial interests in Spain
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    or something else. It's not the legislation
    what's limiting you, maybe it is too,
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    but it's not relevant in this case,
    because the very code is limiting you.
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    You can find examples over and over,
    and as our lives are
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    more and more measured by technology,
    more often what allows us to make
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    technology is what's really limiting us.
    But there's a fundamental difference
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    between technology and the law,
    and it's that the law, at least theoretically
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    in democratic societies, is made by all of us,
    and we have mechanisms
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    that may work better or worse,
    but are at least designed
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    for us to take part in how those laws are,
    but not in technology.
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    You have a program that does certain things,
    and, for example, one may think:
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    "Why is there on Facebook a thumb-up button
    and not a thumb-down to state something's crap?"
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    And one may say "oh, that could come in handy,
    it would be really nice".
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    In fact, if you think about it,
    when one is on a social network,
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    you have ways to upload content
    and ways to download it,
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    I mean, to say "this content is not worthy at all".
    The kind of content that everyone
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    ends up watching is different, because
    you just can't, or maybe you can,
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    say "I don't like this". But that's a decision
    somebody made somewhere
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    and you didn't take part in it and,
    however, it's shaping the way
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    you're communicating.
    If someone would like to read the book,
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    you'll see many examples of how on
    many things that, at first, you didn't realize,
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    the fundamental decision by which
    you can do things or not
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    has not been made by you, it's been made
    at some enterprise which is making
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    software you're using to make it,
    even indirectly.
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    And remember, once more, that software
    is more and more around us.
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    Software will be in cars, for examples,
    as I said before, making decisions
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    like "in a critic situation, I'm killing the driver
    or I'm killing the guy crossing the street".
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    And that's what's it's going to be,
    and those decisions will probably be
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    made by someone, somewhere,
    maybe not with your consent.
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    So, deep down, the thing is that
    we're heading more and more towards a society
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    where the one who's in control
    of the code, is in control of everything.
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    For those who like sci-fi novels,
    read plenty of Cory Doctorow, for example,
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    where he precisely talks about scenarios where,
    in different ways, there are people controlling code
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    that, in the end, is completely influencing
    in everybody's lives,
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    achieving from political changes to
    someone being chased by everyone.
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    There are movies about it, too,
    which you'll have seen.
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    Many people thinks "that's sci-fi".
    It's reality, and to my generation is still
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    half sci-fi. To yours is full reality,
    you'll be living in that world.
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    In a world where the one who's in control
    of the code will be in control of much more, probably,
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    than who's in control of the Parliament.
    Unless we socially do things
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    against it, I mean, for example, that
    the Parliament takes care that those things
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    can't be done or they'll be done
    with control by all society.
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    So, all of a sudden, there free software
    starts playing a role,
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    because, to begin with, if you don't know
    what software that's doing those things looks like,
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    you don't even know what you're
    exactly doing. As I was saying before,
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    if we had to see here how many of you,
    someone in a building
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    in Silicon Valley knows where you are
    sitting now... it's probably impossible to know,
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    because you have several millions of lines
    in you phones that perhaps are
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    sending a detailed telemetry signposting.
    In fact, maybe one of them
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    is streaming this talk live to someone
    over there who's very interested
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    and it's applauding us right now.
    There's no way for us to know.
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    Or, to be precise, it would be very hard.
    We'd have to do a black box analysis,
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    check if any phone around here is sending
    a bunch of signals,
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    perhaps ciphered, check if it follows a certain
    pattern to see if that's what's being recorded in here.
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    But there's no easy way to know because you
    don't have any access to the source code of your own phone.
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    Again, as this happens more and more,
    look how far things can go.
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    So, to sum it up a little,
    free software is a mechanism
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    which helps us in this scenario,
    it helps us much more than it may seem
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    because very basic things like, for example,
    if I could remake all the software
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    of my phone from scratch and install it
    again, I could feel reasonably safe
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    about what my phone does, and you
    could have business based off of it.
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    And there are people who does.
    Remember there are Android versions
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    which are free, there are companies that
    are in charge of going through all the code of Android,
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    certifying it for you and generate versions
    from it that are theoretically clean.
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    And you can install that on phones or
    buy phones that have it installed.
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    But you could do it if you wanted to,
    a coordinated group of persons could do it
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    if they cared, but you can extend that
    to any other aspects of life,
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    but you need the possibility to access to
    the code and to be able to modify it, redistribute it...
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    In other words, you need free code.
    Note that free code,
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    free software, is not the only requirement
    to be able to do this. There are others.
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    But without that, you can't do anything.
    Because of that, my point of view goes like:
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    "We need free software to be
    an integral part of this
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    so called by people 'the society of information' ".
    It really is our daily life.
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    And we need that whoever that wants to,
    is able to at least handle it.
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    There'll be people who don't care about
    all this, but there'll be others who may want to handle it,
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    and it's necessary that that person has
    access to that code to do so.
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    That's why I said, from my personal point of view,
    that free code is much more important,
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    or will be, in the next years, socially,
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    than it's ever been before in the whole history
    of free software, with its 40 years by now.
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    And in the end, anyway, as I said,
    all of this is just a personal point of view.
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    What's important is what it means to you.
    If all goes well, we'll later have some time
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    to talk about it. If it's okay, as English people
    say, let it soak in
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    and see if someone really thinks
    some of these things are worrying
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    and thinks free software could or could
    not help
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    or this is all just irrelevant.
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    Thanks very much to you all.
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    Well, while I look how
    and where to plug this,
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    I'm skipping the greetings
    and thank-yous parts.
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    Thank you all for coming.
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    So many people...
    and I feel shy about this kind of stuff,
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    and feel overwhelmed when seeing that many
    people... thank you very much, especially for inviting me,
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    for bringing me here and because I've been told
    they're buying me lunch later, so...
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    I've got all I need.
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    Okay, I've come to talk a little
    about free software and its demons.
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    To begin with, I gotta say that the
    title of this talk has been infamously taken
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    from a book by Sagan, I don't know if you've
    heard of it, "The Demon-Haunted World".
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    And Sagan, in this book, intends to talk about
    the things he considers menacing to the world
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    in the future. I'm talking a bit about the
    little things that are menacing to free software
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    in the future.
    Okay, to begin with,
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    this guy is me, looking better
    there because I'm less visible.
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    Eh..
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    My name is Pablo Hinojosa.
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    Although I usually use the name
    "psycobyte".
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    because I’m a kind of funny guy.
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    This is my blog where I write some nonsense.
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    This is my twitter where I write some shorter nonsense.
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    This.. well, my github account,
    where I give proof of my disability of programing.
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    And this is the free software’s office and his blog where i work.
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    ¿All right?
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    The free software’s office is called Granada.
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    Eh.. it’s a place where there are a lot of people
    who work and try to promote free software
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    inside of Granada’s,
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    to try that people use free software,
    help to people free theirs things,
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    and we all say:
    "Dude, please free this, really, it’s very cool".
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    etc.
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    Even though it doesn’t cool we say:
    "Yeah man, it’s really cool, do it”.
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    Em..
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    The fact is that the most interesting is that
    have contact with... what we call "community".
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    Although, it would really is best
    communities of free software. yes?
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    EH... let's just say the contact out here.
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    I found all kinds of people.
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    Good.
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    Let’s see a little..
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    Free software faces, in the near future,
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    Already.
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    In fact, it’s facing now.
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    It faces to a lot of huge demons,
    of large problems.
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    They are going to face to... above all, the
    intellectual property legislation,
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    There are people trying to impose legislations
    that can be very harmful to free software,
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    patents... that sort of things.
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    It faces to the DRM, that sort of things.
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    We can see them alter, more calmly.
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    It faces to things like, well,
    the software as service or the cloud,
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    they are problems for free software
    because they force it to reconsider itself.
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    and to face to new perspectives,
    to new ways of seeing the software.
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    Eh.. but I haven't come here to talk about that.
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    I'm going to talk about the little demons.
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    Eh.. the small problems that software free have,
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    Now and everyday.
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    The small mistakes of conception,
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    and the small confusions we have
    with free software.
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    I start with that free software is very cool.
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    Now I'm going to say problems,
    I’m gonna say bad things and say:
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    "Dude! wht’s up? Are you against..?"
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    No, free software is very cool,
    but it has its imperfections as all things.
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    And we have our problems and we will see some of them.
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    To start, I want to see it from the point of view of
    "the newcomer"
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    The newcomer is the person who is knowing the free software.
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    And he has not very clear what is it or what is not that.
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    Here I was told that everyone has more or less clear
    what is the free software, isn’t it?
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    Those who don't know what it is free software,
    raise your hand.
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    Good.
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    In addition, Jesús has mentioned the four freedoms before.
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    So, I save to mention that.
    Is wonderful.
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    People say to me: "Dude, you're a tiresome,
    your are again with the four freedoms".
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    Good.
    I save to mention that.
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    But, reaches many people to the world of the free software,
    and we face, often, to the first demon.
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    The first demon of the free software is this:
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    "This is free".
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    We always say.
    Free software office we say:
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    “No, free software is like the sun when it rises,
    not like free bar”.
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    Even so, always, always there are people that say:
    "Hello, I came to see if you can install a free windows for me"
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    You have not understood what is "free", haven’t you?
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    That is to say.
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    Of course he has not understood.
    In fact, he doesn’t have why to understanding.
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    People don’t have why to know this,
    It doesn't appear just like, it doesn’t come an angel and he shows you
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    and he says:
    “dude, free software is this "
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    Don’t, we must to explain them.
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    Certainly is difficult to explain, above all, because,
    also, we..from the point of view of the free software,
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    we use free as a low.
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    When we say:
    "dude, you have to put a free software in your collegue"
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    or
    "you have to put a free software in your business"
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    Those kind of weapons, we often use.
    is saying: "It’s just free".
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    It is not really free, actually it costs money.
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    We have to do it.
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    We have to pay people because programmers eat.
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    Dude… I mean, fuck,
    they need to pay also those children’s schools.
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    And yet, by that reaches people saying "install me a free windows"
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    or better,
    reaches people saying:
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    "It’s just I have a project, a very good idea,
    and I need to people program codes for me".
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    Okay,
    those people who program codes, eat.
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    People expect that we program things for them just for the sake of it.
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    Actually, in fact,
    We usually do free things.
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    We work voluntarily a lot of hours at day,
    we do a lot of projects and things.
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    But that doesn't mean
    that we are a free workers.
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    ¿All right?
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    The next most important thing and it was mentioned by Javier,
    and it’s very important.
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    This is a mere technique question.
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    No.
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    In fact, if you look the first sentence I wrote,
    in the phrase of Lessin.
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    "The Code is Law"
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    This is very important.
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    From DRMs, the managements of digital rights and so,
    they are software applied.
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    But it’s an ideology implemented into software.
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    There are several ideas, political ideas or ideas of
    how things should be done,
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    that they are implemented into software.
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    ¿All right?
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    In code.
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    The Bitcoin
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    [He comments about a mistake...]
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    The Bitcoin, the virtual coin, is a technique implementation of
    an ideology very concrete.
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    ¿All right?
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    People who have done the Bitcoin they was thinking
    some way to manage resources,
  • 27:21 - 27:23
    and some way to manage richment wealth very very very concrete.
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    ¿All right?
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    Open Data etc.
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    When we, in the office of free software, for example we say that...
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    We decided to do...
    we started to do the portal of information ***
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    We decided that we were going to do about a portal of open data.
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    Of course, and you are thinking that is something logic.
    If you want transparency you should free the datas.
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    Fine, is logical, but it doesn’t the only way of do it.
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    And there are many who do so.
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    The do in a very different way.
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    There is an ideology there.
    There is an approach of how things should be.
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    This is very very very important.
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    Not is a mere technical problem.
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    ¿All right?
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    Free software is ethic,
    free software is philosophy,
    free software is politic.
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    ¿All right?
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    But, I step to the next because...
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    It is logical that people coming out of the
    world of free software,
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    they aren’t sure what is free software.
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    That is not actually a problem.
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    That is to say, it is the reality.
    Is that just so.
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    From the point of view of who releases.
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    That is, when people say: "dude, I want to release something"
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    Or when I say to someone: "man, release this".
    Or whatever, yes?
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    Ok.
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    The daemon:
    "It doesn’t ready for release yet".
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    It fails.
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    That is, dude release that.
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    "Pff... "
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    "Man pfff... is that I can’t,
    is that you'll see, the code is very dirty".
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    It's that man, I have to debug it first.
    I'm going to put it, is that it is poorly indented. It's just..
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    No.
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    “No, but is that I have that check that it’s good because
    I have shame to show it so”.
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    "It is not commented,
    is that I have to split it into modules, is that..."
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    No.
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    Let’s see.
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    The right moment to release the code is already.
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    Already implies already.
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    He says: "But is that I still haven’t written code"
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    Fine, you can start releasing.
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    First thing is a license and then we can talk.
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    The ideal moment to release code
    always, always is already.
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    It is never tomorrow,
    it is never within a minute.
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    It’s already.
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    ¿All right?
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    While you do it go releasing.
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    You will have all the advantages.
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    It will be the right way to do it.
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    And it'll be the way more efficient, more comfortable,
    easier and less traumatic.
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    ¿All right?
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    Well, this is continuous, systematic.
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    Next.
    The demon of:
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    "I don’t need a license".
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    I don’t need a license because:
    "Agg, is that of a license is very seriously".
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    "Ah, it doesn’t have license?" "I upload it on Internet
    and people will copy it".
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    No.
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    If you...
    Let’s see, Law says:
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    If you don’t say explicitly:
    "Hey, I share this so you can use it".
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    That’s same to say:
    This has all the rights reserved.
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    ¿All right?
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    If you don’t put license expressly.
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    At the end a license is a text
    Where you are saying:
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    "Hey, I let you to do something with this”.
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    If you don’t put a license that allows people do that,
    you are not releasing.
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    Even though you think you do.
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    Because I try to use that code for my own work,
    make a development, make a fork.
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    To do something like that.
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    And I say: “Oh shit, it has no license,
    now I cannot use because...
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    and if tomorrow I have with a lawyer, what? "
    What do I do?”
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    I mean, I cannot.
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    I have my hands tied.
    All right?
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    It’s a danger, it’s risk to me.
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    So that, if you don’t put license to your code,
    you are not releasing.
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    Put them license!.
    Cm’on.
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    And now..***
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    I'm trying to be very fast, very summarized.
    There are much more things, well.
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    And now the most interesting part:
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    The bad habits.
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    The bad things that we have in the community.
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    Or rather, in the communities.
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    We have many bad..
    and we have a few demons enough crappy.
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    The first one is the "purity".
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    The demon of purity is horrible.
    We have a lot of people who are really infamous.
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    Eh.. or we are infamous.
    Perhaps I should say so.
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    It is: "dude, I am more free than you".
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    Yeahh..
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    "How can use...? I don’t know... sorry".
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    "How can you use Windows?"
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    "This way you think you make free software
    on Windows?".
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    "For God's sake: how do you do it?".
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    "It cannot be, it’s not free enough".
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    " Impure, get out of here! "
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    No.
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    I mean it. No.
    It’s a complete mistake.
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    The fact that you use free software does not make you purer,
    more suitable, more wonderful, better person
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    No.
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    The fact that you use free software makes you a guy more fortunate.
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    All right?
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    It make you more lucky.
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    Why?
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    Because you have the control of the code,
    of the software that you are using, etc.
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    But it doesn’t make you a better person in any case.
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    However, there is a certain attitude, often,
    within the community of the software free or
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    Communities of free software .
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    Of that, of lashing those who don’t use free software,
    or those who use a free software a little less,
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    Or to those who use repositories as Unity of Debian.
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    I mean, that kind of things
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    All right?
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    And this is a horrible demon,
    because the truth turns us into guys enough assholes.
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    I didn’t come to speak about that, but well.
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    The "obstacles of entry".
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    This is very important, it has a bit of relation
    with the previous thing and it has a bit of relation
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    with next thing I’m going to say:
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    Sometimes it’s not easy to get in a project.
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    You have a project.
    Normally in the small projects you do something,
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    and you have your project, you do your things.
    You are wishing that people come to participate.
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    "Come guys, lend me a hand".
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    And someone send you an email:
    "Eh! I made a patch for your thing" and so.
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    And you see it and you say:
    "Oah! Yo, they sent me a patch,
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    how cool!,
    I’m happy, finally"
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    And he answers to the guy: "hey thank you very much for the patch,
    look I‘m going to apply it..."
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    or “I have applied it, look I’ve put here
    and I've put your name here and so…”
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    That’s for small projects.
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    When a project starts to get bigger...
    course there comes a time when you cannot manage it
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    to receive 15 patches daily, to check that
    patches are OK, that they work and so...
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    And you have to invent a system to manage
    how is that handles
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    Some important communities have made those systems,
    mounted, etc, to manage this kind of things.
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    Others have it worse managed, others don’t have any
    and they do it on their own.
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    And everywhere there are usually kind of guys a little...
    complicated that make hard to solve that task.
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    The typical thing:
    "I would like to make such such..."
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    "-Then search it in google, dude".
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    That happens, I mean , you don’t solve anything saying to the guy
    To search it in google.
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    You are not helping him.
    He already knew that he had to search it in google.
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    And if he has not done it is because he has not been able to
    Or it has not occurred to him, or whatever.
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    Or "is that this forum is not for that,
    You had to post it to another forum".
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    What other type of forum?
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    That kind of things.
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    We often encounter obstacles to enter
    in projects.
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    I insist, the projects more important, bigger
    they already have people dedicated to them
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    to manage that kind of things
    and to facilitate that kind of things.
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    But we often find with projects
    that people don’t do it, and it’s very complicated.
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    We put them obstacles and we stop people
    who might have contributed something to our project,
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    at the end they just get tired and aren’t into contribute us anymore.
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    And this has a very important relation
    with what I was saying in the following point:
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    The "assholes".
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    I have been thinking for ways to say it
    more diplomatic, more so...
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    How would say this... people who has soso...
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    But at the end it comes into my mind... assholes.
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    They are many in the free software, sorry.
    I don’t know if more than other projects.
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    I don’t know if more than another software.
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    But there are people, that we say,
    they have a little complicated social life.
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    I'm not going to mention any of the great gurus
    of free software, but without mentioning any
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    I’m going to mention something very important and..
    We have people that we know they are assholes,
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    We know that they have a complicated character,
    that it’s difficult to work with them,
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    that they have managed to get people out from their projects
    because they didn’t bear them.
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    All right?
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    But what’s up?
    As he’s a great guy,
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    as he’s a very good guy, who code program very good,
    even so we can bear him and we don’t say him:
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    "Dude, you’re an asshole".
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    Eh.. of course this is a problem because, again,
    that’s why I said that it related to what we saw before,
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    we create obstacles to people to enter, again,
    we create difficulties to them.
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    And that’s not what we want.
    We want people are able to contribute,
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    We want people work.
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    That a guy is a great programmer,
    is a super guy and programs fantastically
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    it doesn’t mean that we have to bear your bullshit.
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    All right?
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    Or that should be allowed.
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    Very good.
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    And notice a thing.
    I have been saying it all the time,
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    Since I've started to speak,
    in all the time I've been here.
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    Perhaps someone has thought that it was strange.
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    [a technic comment]
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    I have been saying all the time: "A programmer
    "A guy" and I have spoken in masculine.
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    Because in fact,
    first, because there are many more men in proportion.
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    And secondly, because we have a serious problem
    of sexism in the communities of free software.
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    In fact,it’s a problem most of software in general,
    but is applied as a minimum, equally, to free software.
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    I talk especially of things as I'm saying now.
    Say: "a guy", "a man", "a such..."
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    There are women programmers, there are many women programmers
    Who are great doing very great things,
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    they are partners who are very marvelous.
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    But mostly I talk of things of put
    in my slides.
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    I ‘ve seen many times, practically,
    in any Congress about software that I usually assist.
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    And specifically I usually go to congresses of free software ,
    and not another type of Congress.
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    I find with that someone has showed as symbol,
    Idk.. to represent a award,
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    to show a girl in a bikini...
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    Dude!, I mean, but I no longer say that you're not sexist
    or you’re so...
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    It not looks like any sense.
    For God’s sake.
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    And that happen to us very often.
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    It’s not a serious problem.
    Serious... I mean as you look at it,
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    It’s not a serious problem as for example
    sectors of construction.
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    Which is a sector where there is a very serious problem in that sense.
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    Or as in other sectors,
    ...
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    There are no people telling her: "women go to the kitchen"
    at least not in public.
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    But really there is a problem.
    To ignore this problem and say: "No, that doesn’t happen here,"
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    It doesn’t solve anything.
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    Ok?
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    It’s there.
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    Which take to the next demon:
    "The gender breach ".
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    That’s to say, we have very few women in free software,
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    basically because we have very few women
    in the software.
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    All right?
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    If you don’t enter to our world,
    If 50% of the population doesn’t enter to the software,
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    we are losing 50% of talent.
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    Ok?
    And it’s a problem.
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    There’re tons of people working,
    trying to find out what the problem is,
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    Why they don’t enter,
    why we’re lack of women in the free software.
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    Obviously related to what I was talking about before.
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    And there are a lot of people trying to see what
    solutions we can give to.
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    Doing activities, doing things, etc.
    Looking for tools to try to give that jump we have.
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    It’s not much less easy obviously.
    It’s not a thing you do from one day to another.
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    But we are trying and we are getting things.
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    It’s something that we don’t have to forget, because really,
    I insist, I no longer talk about an equality topic,
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    a solidarity topic, or topic of...
    I’m not talking about those topics, I talk simply
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    about pure pragmatism.
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    We are losing half the talent,
    They are going to other places.
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    People perfectly qualified.
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    And finally.
    He didn’t want to make it so serious, as I am getting myself...
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    Let's not be serious, let's take it with a little of laugh,
    with a little relaxation.
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    Emma Goldman said:
    "If I cannot dance, I’m not interested in your revolution"
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    It’s not that Emma thought that revolutions are a party,
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    or that she thought that revolutions should be a party.
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    It’s really just that, in a context we are,
    obviously, is not the same as Emma’s,
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    In a context we are, that we do a work which our will,
    our motivation,
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    self-interest, personal interest to doing something,
    to getting something, is so important,
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    it’s very very easy that, simply, our own effort,
    the small advances that you make to flow
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    in the big obstacles that you have.
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    If we don’t take it with a bit to laugh,
    it won’t get itself any more...
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    We need to laugh, to take with a bit of humor...
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    Ok?
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    And finally, in any case, and despite everything,
    I insist. It’s worth.
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    I mena, free software is very cool.
    Participate, get into, do something
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    because it’s worth, really.
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    I’ve met the most qualified people,
    to more intelligent people, to the most motivated people
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    within the world of free software.
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    Despite everything I've been saying right now,
    I’ve seen the best atmosphere of the world of job,
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    the best atmosphere of... I mean it, to be happy
    and to be well on free software.
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    More than any other.
    Yes?
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    If you don’t work in a project with free software,
    get into it, get into whatever,
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    participate in projects that they are running, release things…
    translate if you want, whatever...
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    But it’s really worth it, it’s much worth.
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    And that’s it.
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    Thanks very much.
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    [applauses from public]
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    Do you hear me?
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    Yes?.
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    Ok, it’s not necessary to shout...
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    Well, firstly thank you very much for...
    No?
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    So not, you didn’t hear me...
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    So I have a good voice, haven’t I?
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    First of all, like all yes?, to be thankful for
    your invitation in Madrid, in the College.
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    It has made me very excited that they invited me.
    And I’m going to talk a little bit about...
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    I have not done almost ever but
    I’m going to talk a little bit of me.
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    I'm not narcissistic, I think, but sometimes I think that with
    the experiences we've lived and now years have passed yes?
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    and someone perhaps they can be useful to you
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    I'm going to talk a little bit of me, briefly,
    so I can tell you a couple of anecdotes
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    and later I’ll talk a little bit of Debian yes?
    because I have to sell my improvement way.
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    Well, who am I? Maybe you will not know me
    Because we are usually behind the keyboard
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    Mainly took about 10 years
    Becoming a teacher teaching programming
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    And always from almost always I have used
    Free software both to tell my
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    Students, in fact the little template I make
    For them to write their code already carries the GPL
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    If anyone tells me this, but this
    I say is what there is
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    And on the other hand as catching code and being able to
    Show, as a teacher is a source of inspiration
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    And incredible creation
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    I have not been doing it for a few months now
    Teacher, but I got into a challenge
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    Very curious that is that I am working
    In a syndicate for public education
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    In Catalonia and I'm trying to convince them
    To see if they hear me, this is going to be published not?
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    To see if they hear me to move everything
    Your project to free software both the web
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    Like your entire network
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    But hey I think I've been invited here not for being
    Teacher that there are 500 if not because I am
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    Since 2012 I am developing in Debian
    I carry a few packages is very little
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    But this is the grace of free software too
    That if we all do a little we get
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    Great challenges right? Collaboration and work
    On the net what gratifies is what we get
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    I suppose, is there anyone who does not know what Debian is?
    Does anyone dare to tell me that they do not know what Debian is?
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    Well no one dares, in case there is one that does not dare
    I commented that it is a distribution of GNU / Linux
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    Of the perhaps there are like several branches of distributions
    Large Debian is one of which deriban
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    Many of the best known then I will speak a
    A little more of him
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    But if I had to define I do not think so
    I will identify myself as a developer
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    There is forgiveness neither as a teacher nor as a developer
    Debian but would define me as passionate
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    Software and technology and that's what I'm going to
    Well I would like to focus the talk a little with that
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    As my partner has explained?
    The advantages of free software
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    At a professional level because you can reuse,
    You can modify on a personal level you can
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    You can see if they're cheating you
    But I have come to talk about passion
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    Passion for technology, I do not know how many
    Are you passionate about technology here?
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    Motivates you, you would have to raise everyone's hand,
    Please, it's worth more
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    Okay, how many are you passionate about technology?
    And you all make a huge wave there
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    And I, I, because otherwise you would not be studying
    This, I guess you did not get in here.
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    To be millionaires, because maybe you are
    mistaking
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    You are here because you like it, you like it
    The software, like to program
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    And that is what has always moved me
    Sorry I jumped I'm going to count a couple
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    Of anecdotes
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    The first is when before being a teacher
    I was working in service companies
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    I was in a little business
    Software and such
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    And I to my little programs at home, my games
    I was not going to say which operating system
  • 45:42 - 45:47
    Which gives me as repellent and ... but I was like
    Restless with the subject saw computer science as
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    Something neutral something pff, and talking to a
    I told the guy at work that my computer
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    I love it, I love it, but I'm missing something.
    I lack something a social point, a political point
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    With the computer this world is going to move
    It is much more important and he tells me
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    But come, come to the hacklab of Barcelona
    KernelPanic we do courses
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    We used GNU / Linux and I looked at it as
    What are you telling me? I went
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    And from there on because first skin of goose
    Okay the second comes later, I saw that there were people
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    Like me, that there were passionate people, I saw
    Really physical
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    I saw people as passionate as I
    And that got me good curiosity
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    That they did not use
    The nameless, used another operating system
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    Of which I knew nothing and learned it
    I learned what GNU / Linux was the 4 freedoms
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    That I was going to tell them, but there's no need
    Because the first speaker saved us
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    5 minutilles all, and I saw what was a license of
    Free software, which was viral
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    I say I give but I force you to give
    Okay, and it was one of, the first anecdote I wanted to explain
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    Of passion for software and the second
    Was that after a few years, well sorry
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    With the whole theme of hacklabs that I started with
    Meet people not only from Barcelona but all
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    The state that made hackmeeting hacker with
    The ... when I speak of hacker I speak of
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    The people who are passionate about the software, not the
    People who are passionate about breaking bank accounts
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    If not the passionate people we enjoy
    Knowing how things are done
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    With proprietary software this is impossible
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    With which I got in touch with a lot
    People, have spent many years spreading free software
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    Giving away CDs until there was a
    moment to say I have spread a lot
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    I used a lot, I want to return something
    To the community, and I still do not know how I
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    Started to bring Debian that was the
    Distribution of GNU / Linux that I had always used
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    And one day, well, I started sending some
    Patch, talk to developers
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    Which for me was also amazing, I found this error
    And at 5 minutes I had answered the developer
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    Of that package and it was like but, well
    But this where he is and we will call you later
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    No longer was it was completely a communication
    Completely fluid
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    And well, I got going
    Until one day I start to pack
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    A little and I uploaded my first package, I remember completely
    To be in the metro to take the email to me
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    Your package "has been accepted" and I wow
    Goose bumps again, without charging anything
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    A packet that was worthless, but you
    Full of brutal satisfaction
  • 48:41 - 48:48
    That the rest of ... whoever goes is going to
    Be able to use, it will be able to improve and
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    Do what suits you best
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    And now you could tell me: but that has
    To see the passion for technology with
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    Free software?
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    Because I think it makes it very easy
    Obviously you can be passionate about
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    Technology, but you already see the fans of all
    Mac products do not?
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    They are passionate too, but as a technician
    Eh free software makes it very easy
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    And I will put as an example, I will tell a little bit
    How the Debian community works
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    So that you see that the freedom he gives you and
    The community that gives you can help you a lot
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    That you develop and be able to do what you want
    With what you generate as code
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    Some time ago, just like the four freedoms
    I decided that Debian had the 4 spirals
  • 49:42 - 49:48
    The Debian symbol is a spiral and I'm going
    To relate a little bit each what it means
  • 49:48 - 49:51
    And see if you can understand a little of what
    I was talking
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    First of all the community, what is the
    Debian community?
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    The Debian community is huge is not a
    Small project is a very large project
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    With which to enter costs a lot, costs
    A lot if you're shy, if you're not shy
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    You throw yourself but if you're shy it costs you a lot
    Because it is very big
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    All mailing lists on which,
    Most of the communication is done there
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    Are less any specifically public
    Less one that is only developers
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    To discuss private things, but all
    The others are public therefore what you write
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    It stays in public and it's embarrassing, but I'm going to
    Explain a little how it works
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    The community have different profile,
    The first is a user, the first thing that
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    You could do is use it and therefore
    And you are part of that community
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    Then there are people who make collaborations
    Such as writing a patch or writing a bug
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    Because he finds an error and reports it
    If you go further and there is one of the ...
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    Well I do not know if you know how distributions work
    But in general all the software is packaged
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    In packages ie we take the source code of
    Free software that exists and we put it in a special way
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    We package it so that it can adapt to the
    Distribution then you when you are using Debian
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    Do you install packages
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    Eh then if you have a package that you are developing
    Long ago you can become a Debian maintainer
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    That is to say you are given the permissions so that your
    Keep that package and upload it to the Debian repository
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    without any problem
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    And finally they are Debian developer that these
    We are people who have already become more involved in
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    The community we have done a whole process
    To enter, there are basically two parts
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    The first part is very philosophical is wanted
    Ensure that you are committed to
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    Free software and with Debian and the other more technical
    So good to see that you know what you do, right?
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    Debian is characterized by its quality and safety and is not
    Can put any package that is wrong
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    Then you have to check that you really
    Are you doing things right
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    Which I would like to comment also on the community
    Is how Debian works, you do not have to go
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    Asking for permissions if I do this or do the other
    We have a few guides and from there you are doing
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    And talk about democracy when you are
    Debian developer you can vote
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    That is you can propose things and vote
    But also the "docracy" "do" of doing
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    Do not come with rolls this would do it like this or that
    Because it is best to do this does not code
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    Do and we already see how everything else
    Debian spiral would be freedom
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    Freedom in that sense, because on the one hand we have
    The freedom that the software will always remain
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    Free, in fact as I commented before when
    You become a Debian developer
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    When you become Debian developer these
    According to the Debian Social Contract
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    Which is a contract made with the
    Debian users and this agreement says
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    The first thing he says is that Debian software
    Always remain free
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    Says other things the truth is that I do not know
    Of memory but I can comment them
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    Says that we will always give back to the community
    Everything we do bone that we consider
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    To the community, that we will not hide problems
    That's brutal is not it? Go look at this bug
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    As it is all free you can see that really
    There is no problem and everyone can fix it
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    And fin, not finally, that our priorities
    It is people users and free software
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    And finally trying to remove one of the fears
    That comrade commented that if your
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    You need proprietary software even if you are not
    In repositories that would be official
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    Of Debian if there are two repositories that can
    Have proprietary software for if you want to install them
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    That's one that the Taliban would say
    Debian is not purely free because it has
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    Two repositories that ... well it's true
    Is purely free because the repository
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    Main is all free, but if you can
    Install private things if you need them
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    Also freedom as a person when you are
    In the community, because you can do whatever you want
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    Freedom and independence Debian does not depend on a company
    Is a community of volunteers with which there is no
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    Guidelines apart from the social contract and the Debian guides
    That they tell you you have to go here or you have to go there
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    Everything is decided in community and democratically
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    To talk about good quality in free software
    Quality is relatively easy if there is sufficient
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    People like to go fix things
    But in the case of Debian I think that if
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    That we could assure that it is a project
    Which takes into account the quality of the
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    Software, in fact there are Debian Policies
    That when you start with Debian it's a bit
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    A torture that is when a package enters
    In the repository you have to fulfill them
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    If you are not sent bugs or do not go to the stable version
    Debian and well we have many tools
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    I'm not going to roll up with this if someone
    Have doubts I will explain, but we have tools like
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    "Piuparts" or "Lintian" that he does is that when you have
    Finished making the package you check that package
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    Do not misrepresent yourself and have the copyright for example
    What do you say or what, I'm a programmer, I do not want
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    Because if you do not have a well-placed copyright
    Also tells you
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    And finally as the flavors we have
    In Debian, Debian as well as being the main source
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    Of many distributions known as
    Can be Ubuntu or Linux Mint or many others
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    Also has flavors inside for example
    You say to me that I really like Debian.
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    But it is that I am very involved in the medical world
    As there are "DebianMeds" or I'm involved in education
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    Because "DebianEdu" or I really like children
    "DebianJunior" there are as flavors that are compilations
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    Of software in that particular field therefore
    We have to choose in fact Debian is defined as
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    A universal operating system so you like everything
    the world
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    Finished this mini presentation of Debian
    I would also like to comment
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    Because in the projects of free software
    It is easy to enter and as not, I already commented it my partner
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    And I really liked that a man
    Talk about women and not a woman talking about women
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    What is always what happens
    I would like to know how many people here
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    It's a woman or a woman
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    It's okay, though, right?
    Now everyone is watching, where are they?
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    where are they? In the ... a clear example even
    Is very worrisome in the world of free software
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    This issue is worrying because statistically
    There are more women in the technological field than in
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    Free software, the Debian case about 1000
    Developers, women or sitting
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    Wife did not arrive at 20 ok
    What are we doing wrong
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    I do not know, I've read a lot of books
    Of people who say no
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    Video games, but it's now girls
    They play video games is complicated
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    I think it's not just about women
    That we focus on this if not also
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    Of how men receive us and why
    Debian Women is not a project that people who are
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    Inside are women, but they are men and women
    That what they want is that in Debian there are more women
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    I hope it will cease to exist because that would mean
    That is not necessary, but it is simply a
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    Entrance door to that: I'm ashamed
    That they are all boys here, well, I'm starting to talk here
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    How can I collaborate and such and then you're already inside
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    But not only women because sometimes the criticism
    But because only communities that encourage women
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    As it was not long ago in Debian the Diversity Statement
    It's going to be the only slide that I put with text
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    In English but I will translate it into which Debian animates
    To anyone who can collaborate
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    And says: the Debian project welcomes and encourages
    To anyone's participation, no matter how you identify
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    To yourself or as others perceive you,
    We welcome you
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    We welcome contributions from anyone
    Provided they interact constructively
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    With our community, although the majority of
    Our work is technical in nature
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    We also value and encourage contributions from
    Those who have experience in other areas
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    And encourage them to enter our community
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    With which we try to get people to come
    To the project, welcome
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    No matter what gender, gender, race, religion
    Have and that is why I say that entering into
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    Free software, if you have passion in principle
    It would have to be much easier
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    And with this thank you
    And well if you have questions and you will do them to me later
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    Well, good morning to everyone
    And all
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    I am Pablo Soto I am the participation councilor
    Citizen transparency and open government
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    Of the city of Madrid, you will discover in the
    Next few minutes I do not talk like a politician
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    That I speak more like a developer
    And I will try to live or surf the thin line
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    Between the two things, I really have been
    A hacktivist all my life
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    And I am part of those hundreds of new
    Political experiences, political parties
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    In the case of Madrid is called Ahora Madrid
    But there are in hundreds of cities and
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    Govern in fact in the most
    Large throughout the state
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    Barcelona, Valencia, Madrid, La Coruña
    Santiago, Cádiz, Zaragoza
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    We could spend so much time, right?
    In a country where everyone is always
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    I knew who was going to be the next president
    Of the government, right?
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    Notice that more special things have had to happen
    So that nothing less than in the capital
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    One of the most important countries of the
    World and a large European capital
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    Find a hacker in the government deciding
    How are public policies made
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    Well sure many of you
    Remembers it but I would like to know
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    Who knows what happened in Madrid the night
    Of May 15, 2011? You can raise your hand
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    Those that you know happened that night
    What little, well that night
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    That day, on the 15th of May, there was a series
    Of demonstrations in 50 cities in Spain
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    It was the first time a large demonstration was called
    Without the support of any traditional political party
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    Not traditional, no political party no
    Trade union, no traditional civil society organization
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    And rather through social networks moving
    In small groups of activists a high percentage
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    Of them were activists who came from the world
    Of free software, a mobilization was moved
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    We are talking about 2011 when
    There was a very serious crisis problem in Spain
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    We still have it but if you go back to May 2011
    Unemployment was shooting up millions of people
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    Hundreds of thousands of people were starting to
    Lose their homes because they could not pay the mortgages
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    Million Spaniards and Spanish went out to
    Other countries have sought the future
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    Cutbacks in health and education began.
    and a mobilization emerges and the slogan,
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    the main banner did not read "Work, roof, bread"
    if you remember it was "real democracy now".
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    And that responds to an analysis that emerges from
    many places in society, which say
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    well maybe the problem is not so much this specific problem that can be with housing or
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    this specific problem that we can have with education if not that we have a collective
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    problem with democracy, it seems that democracy is not finishing giving everything
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    that came to give, and it seems that surely we can improve it and it seems that we are at a crucial moment,
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    we are in a moment where, well, I do not know if maybe sounds a little grandiloquent
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    but the work done by the most important human genre in history is before us
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    and it's the internet, we are in a moment where if we think of history in something similar
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    we can think perhaps in the printing press, to notice that the printing, the effect it can have,
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    that it has been able to have in humanity comparing it with the internet, that the internet is as if we put
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    steroids to the printing and we had one in each house, well, look what the printing caused,
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    because it provoked, it contributed to that generated a very interesting thing in Europe
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    which was called "Illustration", which in turn triggered a cycle of revolutions that in turn brought us
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    the parliamentary democracies we now have systems where society could not be
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    more pyramidal, and fix what brought the press, well Now it turns out we have internet
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    and we do not have it now, we have for a few decades and we are still with
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    those same democracies, where we have decided in some way that we are unable to agree
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    all of us and then we appoint a few and they agree,
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    we gather them in a building, we call it parliament, that they decide and we will obey,
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    well then, this analysis that we can be at a point where it is very important what
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    we can do collectively arise these mobilizations and fix it is not only in Spain,
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    have occurred throughout all continents, have occurred since:
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    "Occupy Wall street" until the revolution of the sunflowers, we have the Arab revolt
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    not everywhere has worked the same in each place is different but there is a common element
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    that is civil society making a very intensive use of technologies, go out to
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    the street, in some places with bloody dictatorships and I am thinking of Tunez, had decades
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    with a dictator who murdered them if they go out on the street, agree through
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    social networks, there is a spark that is a street merchant who arbitrarily,
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    the police demanded his post and set himself on fire. The new is obviously not given by the official media
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    but through the internet people are getting the news and a manifestation
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    is generated that is growing every day, every day it is growing, every day it is growing and there comes a time when
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    Ben Ali, who was this dictator has the distrust of his own bodyguards and decides to ride
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    a helicopter and leave, and since then
    There is democracy in Tunez, there they call it
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    the Facebook revolution, Facebook is a company and yet there they do not live it
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    with that sadness. Well let's talk a little bit about how free software can transform all of this.
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    When we talk about democracy, we are sure that many of us think of a political key, and when we think
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    of a political key, for many, I am sure that it is also a bit, it is a bit of a roll, this has to do
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    with if you stop someone on the street and you questions that what is the policy, because maybe it responds to you
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    of course if the leaders discussing on TV that maybe Albert Rivera
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    and Pablo Iglésias argue a lot and who put a fatter "zasca" on the other and then
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    wins the election, as that is politics, democracy and politics are something else,
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    democracy and this is very important, this is where we touch what is really important, is that
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    democracy is that you decide, democracy is that all of us here can decide in practice
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    that we can decide what the city is like the country where we live, as is the world.
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    And that's how, if I ask you which is the most democratic country in the world?
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    Who knows?
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    to have heard there some name of a country,
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    Switzerland, Very good!
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    Is the gold standard of democracy, it is like no one on the left or right dares
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    to say that there is no democracy in Switzerland, notice that there has not been a very chaotic system either
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    And yet if we look at what is in Switzerland when we are going to fill the contents
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    of what the "Real Democracy Now" banners said and see what is in Switzerland, it does not seem to be
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    a constant revolutionary process either, are some mechanisms that
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    allow citizens to take control of politics whenever they want, when they want to pass a law
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    that politicians do not agree to approve, citizens can propose it and in a
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    referendum decide it and politicians obey or when politicians want to pass a law and approve it
  • 69:48 - 69:53
    with which the social majority disagrees, Signatures are gathered, there is a deadline to gather the signatures and
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    already then that law goes to referendum and if the people are against it undoes that law,
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    what simpler mechanism, the census percentage in signatures, is very similar to the ILPs, what happens
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    is that it works well and takes a referendum, well, that mechanism that is so simple
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    at the same time is very powerful, It is very powerful because it is a legal mechanism that allows us
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    to stop wars, for example, we always laugh at the Swiss because they are very neutral
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    and it's like the topic, as we ridicule it, but to fix you is a country capable of stopping
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    anyway when there is an impulse of a minority that wants to impose a war, look at you, and it's a country
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    where things like income are already being talked about Universal, that is to say that everyone has a non-theoretical real right,
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    we are not talking about a theoretical corpus that we build on Marxism, not, in practice
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    in Europe, in a country besides culture rather conservative center we could say as Switzerland
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    are posing the reality that everyone has the right to have the minimum to live
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    and that implies having a basic income independently of all the conditions
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    that we can put. You can see that the most powerful mechanism, well, we go back to 2015,
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    it turns out that there are these municipal elections in which there are a lot of new governments
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    and we arrived at the city hall of Madrid and we say, from this we have learned in civil society
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    that fundamentally has to do with mechanisms of direct democracy that can be put
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    into action and are known to work, are already known to work, the swiss had already in 1848
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    because they do not put it here and there are a lot of difficulties because "tachán" arrives the greatest challenge that has the
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    democracy, the biggest challenge that has direct democracy and the citizen participation that is, is none other
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    han the politicians, the Biggest challenge ever for
    People can take control of the institutions
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    and political control are the politicians, I do not know any survey at a global level
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    where people say they do not want to have the ability to decide what the laws are like, there is no way
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    I know that survey and yet when asked to The politicians systematically say
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    well that they do not agree that according to which mechanisms, what to see, what to see
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    is very striking the case of Holland where a survey was made on the one hand to people,
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    citizens and ordinary citizens and on the other hand council councilors and 80 percent
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    of citizens agreed that the popular initiative was introduced to a binding referendum
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    which is this mechanism and 80 percent of councilors were against fixing you,
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    because they basically understood the importance of this mechanism, a mechanism
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    capable of expropriating the minorities who are in command to distribute it among a lot of people,
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    all over the world. There are a lot of arguments against these mechanisms
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    But we had some trick and a very good trick that we knew was working
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    in civil society was free software, so we decided to take this mechanism if the swiss
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    had it in 1848 and it worked because they did not try it in 2015 in Madrid
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    and what we said was, well if the Swiss have been doing it for centuries, collecting signatures on paper
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    and voting exclusively in ballot boxes that are very similar to the times from which
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    this mechanism was born, to think of what type of printing presses were formerly everything
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    as very mechanical with wood and pieces and with
    things and so clear envelopes, urn papers, signatures,
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    pens but it is that we are in the 21st century so let's think as you join now people
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    signatures sure you all know platforms of signatures I do not want to say any, we do not have to
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    advertise Change, but you all use truth, people use those digital platforms
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    to collect signatures because we do not make that legal mechanism through which
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    a group of people can agree to propose a law and that is voted and made through the page of the city council.
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    The initial response is because that page does not exist, so we said good then
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    let's do it and we will do it in free software.
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    I do not know if you have the city of Madrid but
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    if I tell you that the city of Madrid has about 500 people in the computer department,
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    say, Wow! That's a lot of people, but if I tell you that in total there are more than 30,000 employees maybe
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    not so much, because it is difficult to find organizations where only one in 60 is the computer
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    and that at the same time it is an organization where all the procedures can be done online, everything is
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    automated, it is very difficult to find organizations so, although it seems that an organization of
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    500 computers, not all are computers, but the computer branch of Madrid city council
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    are 500 people with a budget of about 100,000,000 million euros a year seems to be a powerful machinery
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    in fact the opposite happens, they are very heavy machinery
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    where it is very difficult to produce innovation, it is very difficult and then we decided to do what
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    Pablo recommended that is to open an account in Github first and from the first line of
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    code was free, then we said: "Hello world we want to make a mechanism of citizen participation
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    for direct democracy in Madrid," these are the rules, if 1 percent
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    of the population supports a proposal, which anyone can do it we take it to a vote, the whole city
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    votes and if the majority agrees the government carries it out.
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    Now we are going to develop it, then as you know the elections were in May 2015 sorry
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    in June 2015, we form government in July 2015,
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    I think it was July 27, 2015
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    we launched the mechanism with the portal, connected with the register , with secure connection, with verification,
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    with electronic voting on September 15, 2015, this would have been absolutely unthinkable for
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    any administration and there were not many people contributing to the code yet.
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    We knew we had planted a good seed and that people were going to start using it and that
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    it could already be spread to other places.
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    At the same time that we understood that this project is something that surpasses Madrid because it is free software
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    what we did was something a little radical in quotation marks that was something radial in the sense that it had never
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    been done, that is to launch a department In a town hall whose sole purpose is
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    to serve all institutions other than the city council, the outside world and call it
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    the institutional extension service, a series of departments that are dedicated to call others
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    places to get in touch with citizens of all the world, to receive when they contact us and tell
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    we have these tools, we have this code and when we talk about code, we talk
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    about the Code Decide Madrid, which is what is called the platform, but also the legal code of laws,
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    regulations, ordinances, everything that we have needed to go approving, decrees to implement
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    these democratic mechanisms, we have done the same, we have licensed GPL
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    nothing else to the code, because the laws already have it by themselves, they are public domain, but the idea is the same
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    let's to use these licenses to spread democracy, after all, what has been the result,
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    after a few months Barcelona joined, shortly after Coruña, shortly after
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    Santiago are now more than 30 cities, which use it.
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    In Barcelona they called it Decidín Barcelona, in each place they have called it in a way and in some
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    places they are exactly Decide Madrid modified the look and feel, the appearance but in other places
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    they have opened their own lines of development, Around 100
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    repositories where there are commits usually and we do not have a census
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    but there are dozens of developers full time, not only in Spain, also for example is
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    using Nariño which is a region of Colombia,
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    They are installing it in the state of Jalisco (Guadalajara)
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    We are talking about millions of people, Buenos Aires, I do not know if they have called it Decide Buenos Aires,
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    well, multitude of cities around the world.
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    We return to the case of Madrid, as well as working, well one of the things that has had this project of
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    novel, is that in Switzerland as you know you have to collect all the signatures on paper in the street
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    to get the number that is and when the You have achieved, present them in the institution
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    and the referendum is called, here, not here a proposal with only seven supports, actually
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    with only one support, you put it and that proposal the council has already published and
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    is only one support , what are you and you have the same conditions to get in this case is 27,064
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    supports, that is one in 100
    madrilenians over the age of 16 have to agree
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    With your proposal.
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    That radically changes the way in which this mechanism of democracy works because in Switzerland
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    most of the citizen initiatives manage to collect the necessary signatures to reach
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    referendum, here there have been 15,000 proposals, obviously it is a minimum percentage that will
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    get those firms , Why ?, because at the end
    That threshold for what it serves is to regulate that
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    we can not be voting one hundred things constantly all the time if not that we are going to vote X things a year.
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    In Switzerland they vote 2, 3, 4 things every year,
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    you can see that there are maybe 8 initiatives or 6 initiatives and get the signatures
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    Only 4 or 2, here there have been 15,000 proposals but at the end of the first year they have obtained
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    the signatures 2 or be that although the mechanism has very different flows and this
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    works with a logic of very rapid change, new things on the platform
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    people can make and disseminate their proposals in networks in a much simpler way but
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    finally we arrive at the same result, which is that every year an affordable number of proposals
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    are voted, in this case are 2 proposals that are going to vote of 13 To the 19 of February, they are going to vote
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    in the same platform and with this I am going to enter in the detail
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    I do not know how I go about time, I still have,
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    I do not want to go over a subject that is that the code is law and here you will understand very well
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    because here it is true that it is law
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    From February 13 to 19, these two proposals will be voted on in Madrid, one of which is Madrid
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    100 percent sustainable and is promoted by the climate alliance. There are 400 organizations
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    that include people of all types, trade unions, Catholic Church, Greenpeace
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    And is the profile of proposal that gets through a mechanism that has nothing to do
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    with free software, nor with the internet, they would have managed to collect the same signatures,
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    but if you see the other, only ticket of public transport.
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    Proposes that there be a modality of
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    public transport that is that with a ticket you can for ninety minutes ride as many times as
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    you want in things, to make a trip maybe you catch bus, subway and bus
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    or something, this proposal has been put by a specific person, an individual person,
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    any one, you have In other debates, it is also very good here because
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    in the debates section you have been able to see several debates where you have received very high consensuses,
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    here in this debate there are 4,000 people and 95 percent agree that it would be possible
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    to change transportation without paying another ticket.
    He has made that proposal and fixate that a person
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    without having a platform that supports him, through networks openly, has achieved
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    to recapture the supports.
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    These 2 proposals are put to the vote as I said they are going to vote from 13 to
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    February 19 and this is where electronic voting comes into question and this is very important
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    because this is where a crucial element comes where it is seen how free software
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    is at this point in history at a point where it will shape itself we will have democratic and free societies
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    or if we are going to have societies with different forms with authoritarianism
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    is an authoritarianism of fascist court, of populist court, of cut capitalist of the court that
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    is by means of the use of the technologies to control society.
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    Electronic voting, at the moment is something that is in dispute by many giants
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    technological, there are large companies some of the largest in the world are Spanish by
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    chance who are striving to introduce electronic voting in countries little by little
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    what happens is that most of these companies have proprietary software and that means,
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    It means that you will not be able to see the code that processes your vote, you will not be able to modify it,
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    you will not even be able to see it, you will not be able to check that this process is happening
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    as says that independent authority that is happening, so
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    this ritual that occurs every time there is an election is that every time the polls open
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    and in front of anyone can go to see it and can go to see that count and can verify that on that
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    table has come out So that voting does not necessarily translate to electronic voting.
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    The solution to this is not so technological we already have the technology to verify that
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    electronic voting retains all the properties it requires, secrecy of the vote, verifiability
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    of the vote, control of scrutiny, all that already exists by means of cryptographic techniques,
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    There are technical solutions so that electronic voting can happen like this and it is well
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    implemented in places like Switzerland precisely but we have the political aspect that is or is
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    decided from the political power that all the tools that are going to be introduced for
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    the democratic area in this regard of the vote are going to be free software or we're going to have
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    to rely on that authority because we really will not see cryptographic techniques that
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    will guarantee that we will not finally see a manipulation behind.
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    Well, they tell me that in time we do not go very well then three things nothing more.
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    This mechanism of democracy that we are implementing and thanks to free software is
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    spreading all over the world, a little time ago if we had seen that Madrid
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    was exporting democracy to Europe the world would have said that was crazy,
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    that was never going to happen.
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    Is not the panacea this mechanism is not the panacea
    But if we know that it is much better for those sites
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    where it is working that is much better
    that what we have all the politicians,
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    they said everything and that there are about 4 politicians and
    4 experts who decide on everything.
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    We know that this produces better results
    It's a question of results.
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    Second, emmm this is global, ie this is not a
    thing that is happening here because it seems
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    as in Spain has dislocated a little
    politics and then has broken in Podemos
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    and then Ciudadanos have risen and then
    there is a thing as well as parliamentary
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    it seems that there is change here
    This is a global thing, this is happening
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    in more than 100 countries I know cases from
    around the world where similar experiences are occurring
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    what happens in each place is different,
    in each site occur differently
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    but there is a common thread that is that citizens
    and citizens who did not have 5 years ago
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    the intention to change things at the political level
    And who did not think of us
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    and in a we are going to change things now
    they are saying hey we are in an important moment
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    we are playing it and things are really
    happening that require our attention, right?
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    And this is happening at the global level,
    we are at a crucial point because
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    that will depend on whether we have better or
    worse societies and the last is that despite
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    that also this from the scenarios so eh
    It does not help either already someone has mentioned it
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    It is very important to understand that this is not
    going to be 4 experts who have decided as to where to go
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    free software and where the tools of direct democracy
    have to go and how ... this does not have to go
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    of all and all and this implies that you and you can
    get into the repositories of the Madrid tool
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    is called the application consul and participate
    and that everything we are doing in all
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    free software projects and administrations in this regard
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    is yours then it is not so much that we
    or "X" or 4 or that Pablo Iglesias on TV discusses
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    I do not know who to tell who is right, right? ,
    this has to go from that we all get
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    the reins of society and you and you are
    at a very important point
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    that is the technology and that is going
    to be what I said 7 times but I think
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    it is very important to understand that
    we are in one of those pivotal points
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    I do not know how to say it, well, a balance point
    where we can go...well, you've seen
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    Trump in the USA, right? And the other may
    occur as well as many very different things may occur
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    and technology is very important right
    now and it is in your hands.
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    Thank you.
Title:
El software libre desde distintos mundos
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